???? What kind of logic is that? Don't you get the point why I brought up those questions? Then, you should pay attention to the title of the topic (and read the OP carefully).... before you get sucked in. With all due respect, if the premise of the topic is as the title says it will be - then, expect it to be like as you described it, a "sermon"..........after all, I'll be using the Bible, won't I? If the title says "Homosexuality in the Bible," don't expect it to be anything else but the Bible! Personal opinion won't count much - not in this topic. If your opinion is shown to contradict, or is inconsistent with the Bible, of course it'll get torpedoed and blown to smithereens. Anyone who's got a problem with that - well, my shotgun ain't loaded, and it's not pointing at you. Anyway....discussing the very thing that the title says it would (using the very thing that it says it would)...... is now labelled a......... sermon? Good grief.

Anyway..... Here's that divisive statement again: “If you don’t vote, then somebody who looks like me is going to vote, some senior person, older than me, some white person.” And here's the point: Why bring up color? What's color got to do with it when we're talking about the same worries that any person would be worrying about? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-votes-2014/vote-compass-users-put-priority-on-economic-issues-in-ontario-election-1.2642830 Is Wynne saying that only white and old voters worry about the economy? Isn't the ECONOMY a big concern for most Canadians? What about HEALTHCARE? Are white and old people the only ones who think of healthcare as a priority in their decision??? Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Arabs..... don't care about that? How about the DEFICIT? She thinks only white folks are smart enough to know that this humonguous deficit will be bad for all Ontarians? Everyone else (all non-whites), are naive enough to not get concerned about it? Accountability? http://www.macleans.ca/politics/why-kathleen-wynne-is-still-so-unpopular/ Why is Wynne so unpopular? Is it only because of white, and old people? Hello?

No lies. Not irrelevant! It's that particular message - there's no twisting or skirting around that. “If you don’t vote, then somebody who looks like me is going to vote, some senior person, older than me, some white person.” Compare with this re-phrasing: “If you don’t vote, then somebody who don't look like me is going to vote, some senior person Muslim, older than me, some white black person.” If you're going to ignore that....then I might as well just ignore you. Anyway, I'm tired of your nonsense. I've wasted enough time on you....so never mind.

Are you kidding? Lol. They can't even describe a missing child in Montreal as black - and that's a matter of life and death!

It's that particular message - there's no twisting or skirting around that. “If you don’t vote, then somebody who looks like me is going to vote, some senior person, older than me, some white person.” Compare with this re-phrasing: “If you don’t vote, then somebody who don't look like me is going to vote, some senior person Muslim, older than me, some white black person.” Bottom-line: you don't single out a particular group. You can encourage young voters in a positive way.

Irrelevant. Wrong thread. Vent about that in religion - don't want to derail this thread about Wynne.

hahahahaha the Christian card comes up!

Kathleen Wynne badmouthing - demonizing - old people.......she doesn't have access to a mirror? Makes you wonder if she's having some senior moment during that speech! What a doober.

http://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/bonokoski-wynnes-right-about-one-old-white-politician-who-needs-to-go Young people, look closely at Kathleen Wynne - http://www.standard-freeholder.com/2017/02/23/wynne-earned-her-teddy-award She's white, and she's old....... Boot this old, white hag out!

Youth voters was up in unprecedented numbers during the 2015 Federal election.....so she can't say the youth aren't engaged! Did it ever occur to her that the Liberal Party of Ontario - and, she - are the reasons why youth voters are low in Ontario? https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/youth-dont-vote-because-they-dont-like-what-they-see/article19114640/ They most likely feel the burden of this GIGANTIC DEFICIT falling on their shoulders to carry for a very, very, very long time! They see the big burden of shouldering her spendings falling right smack on their generation - and beyond! With no good employment, to boot! They've lost hope! Who can blame them? It's terribly depressing when you're at the mercy of someone like Wynne!

I wounder how it'll be if we re-phrase her words like this: “If you don’t vote, then somebody like Muslims are going to vote, some black people.” You can encourage in other positive ways! You don't single out certain groups - especially when we see the controversy over racism - what with groups like Black Lives Matter! She's compounding the angst against white people. She's tapping into those sentiments! Bottom line: you don't stoke the embers of a race war! Period.

You have the choice to interpret the Bible any way you see fit, too - and can even presume and add to it (even if the statement is really quite simple). I don't want to add for the obvious reason that I try to follow what is written - and because it says somewhere that we're not supposed to add anything. Proverbs 30 Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar. Deut 4: 2 "You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Deut 12:32 "Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it. In other words.....is that really what God is saying? That's quite reminiscent of the serpent's question: Gen 3: 1-4 Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Indeed, has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden'?" Well, we know where that question had led Eve..........and the rest of mankind! So yeah, in my case.....I see only one message to something that is simply and plainly written. It's not like as if there are no cross-references to other verses that's consistent with the message that I see. That's one way to know if one's interpretation is true. It shouldn't contradict any other message of God in the Scriptures. Therefore, onion skin shouldn't reveal any contradicting messages to the previous ones that's been revealed. Otherwise..... what we have is a convoluted book of bull! Right? Do you think God would create and give such a book? What does that make of God besides making Him unreliable, and non-credible? We have a lunatic God? Some people think that God can't state anything to be just as simply as it's clearly stated - that if it came from God, it's gotta be more complicated than that. I mean.....how many times can we interpret, or re-invent, Thou shalt not murder? Or, Thou shalt not commit adultery? Another thing.........Judaism doesn't use the New Testament. And, to a Christian, the Bible doesn't end in the Old Testament.

I'm having the same problem with my keyboard. Maybe, I'll just use alphabet stickers. Dollar Store got them in different sizes.

That's all? Hah! You need to sit down and think about it. She's trying to scare young voters with white and old folks. That's quite obvious! Is she out to lunch? Even if it's been older people who came out en masse to vote - she thinks there are no young people who shares the same visions as the older folks, and vice versa? Are there no young conservatives? Old, white liberals? I know that some young voters are worried about unemployment. She thinks there aren't any old folks (just because they're retired) who aren't concerned about unemployment and how this will also impact them (and their children and grandchildren)? Just because they're old (and just collecting pension).....they're no longer concerned with the unemployment rate? And why bring up color? What's color got to do with it when we're talking about the same worries that any person would be worrying about? Is Wynne saying that only white and old voters worry about the economy? Isn't the ECONOMY a big concern for most Canadians? What about HEALTHCARE? Are white and old people the only ones who think of healthcare as a priority in their decision??? Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Arabs..... don't care about that? How about the DEFICIT? She thinks only white folks are smart enough to know that this humonguous deficit will be bad for all Ontarians? Everyone else (all non-whites), are naive enough to not get concerned about it? Is that what she's saying? By golly, YES! Why do you think she's gunning for old, and white folks? Because she thinks she can fool the rest - but not these two particular demographics! If that's how she views ALL OLD and WHITE folks (lumping them all together in such a way)......then, she's not only doing dirty divisive tactics, but she's also narrow-minded! The only ones who'd be worrying about what white folks would be voting for, will be those who have angst and racist views about white people! Wynne is trying to make this about race - because she's trying to stoke and use those with racist views against white people!

You sure those aren't toys? By the looks of those cute faces - more like the "charm offensive" brigade! Like North Korea's.... http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42616982

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/work/putting-women-soldiers-like-me-on-the-front-line-is-dangerous/ No one can rule out hand-to-hand combat! Like her hypothetical scenario - sometimes you're forced into it ! You can't say, "wait, wait wait....I'm with the armored regiment! I'm not infantry! I didn't sign up for this!" Woe to the unit with women in the group if ever they had to get into physical combat! You're all as good as dead.

Hah! World War z - showed us a sample of their tough woman soldier!

https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/03/17/progressive-conservatives-driving-towards-majority-government-poll-suggests.html Now, let's watch CBC and CTV nitpick and gloss over gaffes that'll be made by Ford - and yet they've been quiet all along about Wynne's deplorable divisive comment!

If they can torture and gang-rape their own people.....imagine what happens to a western, female enemy? If one gets caught, she'd be wishing she's dead.

I don't think the main stream TV newscahnnel had reported anything about that. CBC and CTV are mum about what would've been a very juicy piece had that comment come from Ford......or Trump.

Whew. That was a good example of how certain lefties try to win a losing battle. If they can't shame you to shut up - because they don't want to hear what you're saying - they always end up calling you names. It never occur to them to just....avoid the thread. I mean - just read the title.

Oy....you insist falsely judging and condemning me, Pot? Whatever. Toodles.