WHOA! Holly guacamole! You reacted to Sap dude's babbling! This must be what stings you.....

The irony is in Sapper's statement.

Says the "headless" horseman. At least I have a head!

Well....bloody hell. What's stopping you from creating your own thread about it? You and others who try to hijack this topic and try to diminish the gravity of the situation think Thailand people are not worth the empathy being expressed here, huh? That's it, huh? What else could there be other than you don't think much for people from Thailand! Otherwise.....why do you resent so much the outpourings of concern for them? Shame on you guys who try to politicize this incident, and using it as a vehicle to express your maliciously spiteful messages.

2.5 million? Where did you get that number? Cite your reference. ....obviously you did? Prove it. Name them all! Easily. I'm not a hypocrite.....and not driven by spite, to the point that I spout off dumb statements! The same goes for anyone who agrees with you. So, there!

All boys and coach out of the cave! HOOYAH!

Looks like William and Kate are going to remedy that. They've just christened their third. How many is a good number as far as "many" goes? Society isn't the way it used to be. Whereas in the old days, a farmer would want a big family so there'll be more helping hands.....thanks to technology, that's not a requirement anymore. People are thinking mostly about their own selves too in this new clime. It's a time where convenience rules. Moral values had changed. The decline of religion is a factor - whereas before having children is considered a blessing.....today, children are more like accessories. Of course, having an array of contraceptives, and the legalization of abortion, is another factor to consider. No one need get stuck with a child they didn't plan for.

So......why do I have the sense that you're lording your opinion over a particular group of Christians who take the Bible literally? How does it affect you in any way if someone believes earth is merely a few billion years old? What harm does that do to you? You don't agree with their faith, that to you, isn't "science-based"......... ............so, based on the public statement issued by the The National Academy of Sciences........ do you think Creation by God, is a possibility? Why is this suddenly about you and your dad? Though he's entitled to his opinion........I don't care what your dad think is the best model! I don't think so, and I can point it out why so. Read below. Based from what I've learned from the Scriptures - and speaking as a religious person - a nation who has fear of God will endure. Let me re-phrase that: Being in a supposedly democratic country that's supposedly adhering to our Constitution.....I should have the freedom to express my criticisms of any ideology (including any religious ideology). How did we get to this kind of politically-correct Canada? Through the SECULAR model that you talk about! So now you know why I disagree with your father. In keeping with the title of this thread, could you explain...... ............why your posts are full of contradictions?

"Qualified teachers"......meaning, scientists. Well, just so you know, here is one fact.....the creme de la creme of qualified scientists has not ruled out Creation by God! IN FACT, science leans towards its possibility. They call it, "THEISTIC evolution." Of course, it's not the literal version of Genesis. https://wmap.gsfc.nasa.gov/site/faq.html

You probably stereo-type the "white knight" you have in mind. Trump doesn't fit your mould. He's a "diamond in the rough." It's what he's aiming to accomplish - and how he's influencing the world - is what makes him the "white knight." Aw c'mon Argus. We've been through all that at your thread in Religion, and I'd already rebutted that. That kind of reasoning is what's making you seem childish sometimes.

My questions are directed at Slick. However, anyone is free to give their opinion. I don't care if it bothers you. We have rights to religion - and we can impart our values and beliefs to our own children! Mind your own children. Yes I'm in Canada - and as far as I know, no one is saying criticism of religion is unacceptable......at least, not me. Why? Did anyone say you can't? Btw, I'm also free to criticize any ideology.

Nothing stops me from saying what I want to say - whether there be responses, or not. So, that scares you. And......? How does it affect you if some people believe the earth is 6,000 years old? Exactly. ....just like any ideology. Not exclusive to religion.

It's been almost 6 months now. I don't think Trump will enforce democracy on anyone. That's not his plan.

There is more to these visits to these two Theme Parks than just simple idle exploration that involved time, money and planning. INTEREST. First, the interest has to be there, right? You seem so..........relieved. Like as if, you wanted some confirmation, and what you saw confirmed it for you. It has to do with science. Your posts show that: I don't know why you hang everything on science........and yet, your atheism directly contradicts science. Science has definitely not ruled Creation out. In fact, science - the statement issued by The national Academy of Sciences - leans more towards the possibility of the Biblical God's existence through - THEISTIC Evolution. https://wmap.gsfc.nasa.gov/site/faq.html So you latched on two theme parks that are founded by a Christian group that takes the Bible literally. They are THEME parks that take the Bible literally. We know that, thanks to science, we now can take some of the verses in the Bible literally. Like the stretching universe, as an example. And, man is made of "dust." Figuring out what are figures of speech and what's literal......is key. But for some of us, whether they're literal or not, doesn't really matter. So.....if you're latching on a theme park to give a much-needed confirmation of some sort for you......I think that's a very shallow way of getting some knowledge. Obviously you're on a quest........nothing wrong with that. But you've got to be sensible about it..... ............................and you've got to have an open-mind.

Have you gone to Disney World? Or, Disney Land? Have you seen Mickey Mouse.....and Cinderella.......and all other cartoon characters? Do you know where they're derived from? Have you seen these life-like characters interact with enraptured children........... and tickled pink parents? Did you have the same "hallucinogenic experience?" And that same feeling of warm deja vu as you look back to your own childhood? Have you not deciphered as you grew up what childhood beliefs you may have had are simply.....fictional? So, your "concern" for these Christian children you witnessed is kinda hypocritical, to say the least. You need to reflect back.....to analyze.....and we see that they're not really different from a child who excitedly sits on Santa's lap - and giving his wish list! I'm assuming you have an idea what The Creation museum, and the Ark Encounter will be all about.....so, I don't get your surprise, and this "Aha!" moment you had! You know the text for Mickey Mouse is ridiculous.........and of course, as a Bible-bashing atheist, you consider the whole Bible as FICTIONAL! Can you explain why you seem so surprise to what you've seen in what you obviously know are THEME parks? If the theme parks are both derived from a Book that you consider "ridiculous," and fictional.........why is it any surprise at all that a segment of it (The Ark as an example), would be any different? What did you expect, exactly? What were you hoping for......... What are you........SEARCHING for?

This thread is inspired by a status update posted by Slick. Slick had apparently visited two Christian-based museums - The Creation (Ohio), and The Ark Encounter (Kentucky). Just so to show the whole exchanges between us: https://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/profile/111034-slick/?status=12095&type=status I, myself have never been to any of these two places (not that there's anything wrong with them)............but I'm glad to see that Slick had even visited BOTH! It seems his interest to, as he say, "fully experience" them, is quite amazing - one isn't simply enough. I've got several questions that needs clearing up, Slick. Can you explain....... Why on earth do you think it so important to "fully experience" something you undoubtedly consider as fictional?

So.....your hate for USA and Israel had erased any feelings of compassion for you when it comes to people that are not members of your preferred tribe? That's what you're showing here. You begrudge the emotional outpourings by posters here. You can't allow that to happen in peace. You're trying to diminish the harrowing story (that sees the world in unison, as they watch - some even providing physical support in their concerted effort to save these children), as nothing more but a POLITICAL platform for you to use........ to spew your hate? I don't think you understand.....or even know, what empathy is. How can you? When it seems you're incapable of feeling it. TALKING POINTS! That's all your words are. The only one hypocritical is you, coming to this thread and repeating TALKING POINTS........................... trying to pass them off for, "feelings." Gee.....you sound like a robot that's been programmed. Go somewhere else, to do your recruitment for your anti-US/Israel/Saudi club. Stop spewing your hate on this thread. Have some decency.

Of course Trump divides America. With opposing ideologies - left and right - of course, there will be division! We have to be thankful that in the USA, there is STILL A DIVISION. I see the positive aspect of that division. That means, change is still possible. Whatever change happens in the USA under Trump............will eventually find its way to Canada. That is the silver lining for a Canadian like me. Trump is the white knight in the horizon. Look at what he's trying to achieve regarding religion (which of course entails family and values), and good old fashion patriotism. He's trying to change the world. How much he'll achieve, we don't know. It might be too late.....we don't know. I'm surprised he's going to UK next week, for 3 days! I thought that trip has been shelved. That, to me, shows that no matter how they try to marginalize him........ he is a leader that just can't be ignored. Having said that, I understand the frustrating, and the depressing picture the current landscape gives us. Birthing a "new" nation, isn't easy.

A heartwarming exchange between the young coach and the parents: In response, the boys' parents have assured him that they don't blame him for the tragedy that has seen the soccer team trapped underground for more than two weeks. Dear Coach Ake,We, as your soccer team member's parents believe in you and your spirit that you've been taking a good care of our kids. We just want you to know that this is not your fault. We all here don't blame you and just want you not to blame yourself. We all understand all the situations that have happened and we are here supporting you. We appreciate all your loving support and care to our kids. We are waiting for the news that you all get back out of the cave safely soon.Your aunt is also here waiting for you at the entrance. Tanawat Viboonrungruang, the father of Chanin Viboonrungruang, also known as Titun, reiterated that the families aren't blaming the 25-year-old coach. "We don’t want him to blame himself and feel any guilt. We all understand that this is an accident and it’s (a) natural disaster in the rainy season," he told CNN. "We can’t anticipate what will happen... No one here will take this as his fault." https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/thai-cave-rescue-live-intl/index.html

Thai cave rescue: boys being rescued in four groups – live https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/08/thailand-cave-rescue-operation-divers-trapped-boys-live (45 minutes ago) here's why it's so challenging and dangerous: https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/thai-cave-rescue-live-intl/index.html

https://calgarysun.com/news/provincial/bell-trudeau-had-his-chance-and-he-blew-it

..........or maybe someone recalled this old news and wanted to point out the hypocrisy? Trudeau's rubbed quite a few people the wrong way with his hypocritical stance with MeToo. That's enough motive for folks to start digging.

The soccer team and their coach trapped in a cave in Thailand. Oxygen is running out, and the monsoon rains are expected sometime next week. It's a nail-biter. Racing against time. Why aren't they putting more lines to pump out that water? I don't understand much about diving and oxygen tanks......I'm thinking can't they put extra oxygen tanks along the way so nobody has to run out of it like what happened to that ex-navy seal who died?

Btw, that's what metoo is mostly all about - digging up bones. Some even date back more than 20 years ago.