Notice the difference in tone with China! https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/chrystia-freeland-decries-plight-of-canadians-jailed-in-china/article37170212/ In other words, let's not really go there - let's not make a big deal out of it. See? You lose your high-ground and credibility when you say Canadian "values" are for sale! That's not only hypocritical. That's despicable. Of course, ther could be another factor at play here: KSA is a close friend of Trump.

So does freakin CHINA! https://globalnews.ca/news/3899392/trudeau-admires-most-not-china/

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-08-07/canada-and-saudi-arabia-spar-on-twitter-and-no-one-will-win

The thing unusual about those tweets.....is why on earth are they tweeting subjects that should be discussed diplomatically? THEY ARE NOT TRUMP - so stop copycatting Trump! Tweeting his policies and decisions - that's the signature of Trump! Only Trump can pull that off! You don't need an ambassador anywhere if Freeland and others will simply resort to tweets! Freakin' unreal! First, it was Trudeau's tweet that got us the border problem. Now, Freeland's tweet will also costs us billions (some are not so easily determined)! Take those tweeter account from them!

....and your responses to my threads make you seem like a.......troll. If my threads bother you, don't enter them! In fact, I'll thank you for it. As simple as that!

Hahahaha. Btw, what do you have against Steven Segal?

I didn't even know about that "basic income" experiment exists.

How on earth can the Liberal government even think to discourage border-crossers when all they have to do is set foot in Canada, and they could stay on for years - with financial assistance and social services!

And to add to that, it's not like as if spending stops when they have been given housing. We have to financially support EACH CLAIMANT until the time he's removed (if he gets removed)! Like as if they don't have to eat daily, and they don't need care. In the meantime, there is a steady traffic of more claimants pouring in - being added to those that are still here and waiting - that has to be looked after, too! $270 million is not a one-shot spending! It will increase steadily, too! https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/irregular-border-crossers-cost-at-least-270m-according-to-new-pbo-figures-1.4038622

The new poll says 2/3 of Canadians think we have a border crisis with illegal refugees! https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/08/03/canada-border-crossings-poll_a_23494958/ Blair and Goodale came out doing their spin, saying that we are "mis-informed!" Heck, so we don't have a crisis? What do you call it when we're up to our eyeballs in deficit - and we are in a trade war - and here we have to put this steady stream of refugees in hotels, providing them with social benefits! If the government is prepared, as they claim they are........WHY ARE REFUGEES BEING PUT UP IN STUDENT DORMS AND HOTELS??? Why do you have to send people to the USA to explain that the "open invitation," isn't really open - that our Justin was only kidding? Why do you have to put Blair in a new portfolio that's already being handled by Goodale? Heck, how much are those travels and new Blair new position costing us Canadians? Trudeau is abusing Canadian taxpayers by charging everything to what he treats as an unlimited credit card! It may not be a crisis for Liberals ( being the spenders) - but it sure as hell feels such a crisis for the ones who are paying for it! Can we cancel this credit card? F***! We can't! Canadian taxpayers are at the mercy of the Liberals! Yes, they're illegal border crossers! They've already entered the USA as refugee claimants! https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/refugees-enter-canada-immigration-laws-not-enforced/ Of course, issuing an open invitation to come to Canada.........makes it a whole lot worse! So, we're "mis-informed?" Blair and Goodale are rubbing salt by practically saying............Canadians are stupid!

You keep using "gnostic" as the term......... do you know GNOSTICISM refers to various religious ideas and systems, that originated from Jewish-Christians? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism You must mean, AGNOSTIC-ATHEISM. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism

By your own statement there, there shouldn't be any plain theists - or atheists - at all! That is, if we base our knowledge by your own "standard." Lol! Why? Did anyone show any undeniable scientific PROOF that God exists to base that so-called "knowledge?" You convolute your own thinking into cockamamie nonsense. Gnostic-theist, my foot. What a load of rubbish! Lol! Why would anyone claim to be in a definitive stance if they're skeptic about it in any way? Never mind science! The only reason I use science in forums is because I'm dealing with non-believers who claim to be relying on science! I'm simply meeting you on your own ground - showing you atheism is irrational - by using your own science! I don't need any scientific proof! I don't need science to tell me. I am a theist! I believe and say God exists............ BECAUSE............ I KNOW IT!

I used to be for capital punishment - but I've changed my position a long time ago, too. A documentary about a mentally challenged who was executed (who turned out to be innocent) was what changed it for me. The investigation was botched. Negligence was involved. We live in a very corrupt world - it's difficult to not have reasonable doubt.

Lol! Gnostic theist? Hahahaha It's your so-called "logic," that's faulty! :shrug: What more can i say?

I've done all the talking about evidences! REVIEW them, if you want. I'm not going to convince you to accept them. I'm simply showing atheism is an irrational position - and you're helping me with it.

The fact that you feel you have to include that red part, is the evidence you are agnostic! You aren't sure. Obviously, you find it important to reiterate that. Well....you're on the same boat with Richard Dawkins. I won't call you dishonest. I think you simply bought into these atheist-agnostic combo which new atheists conveniently use, to wiggle out of being called irrational! They know, that being an atheist is an irrational position. Even Dawkins! Lol. He cannot trumpet atheism anymore as the "voice of reason," can he? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9102740/Richard-Dawkins-I-cant-be-sure-God-does-not-exist.html And I think you simply cannot grasp why that combo is absurd. Unlike you however, Richard Dawkins has books to market - which are written for atheists - so, he flip-flops. I don't need that so-called strawman to show New Atheists are arrogant and stupid. New Atheists show it themselves. Why do you think we've got that other thread started - the one that stemmed from your status update?

Here is part of that debate between Collins and Dawkins. http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1555132-6,00.html Dawkins tend to contradict science - he did imply that the tools of science can somehow prove God's existence or not. Well, if God is supernatural - and, that's what He is - obviously Dawkins had forgotten that the supernatural is outside the realm of science. No wonder Richard Dawkins was described as "sophomoric" for his book The God Delusion - he debates like one. Did he forget what science is? https://wmap.gsfc.nasa.gov/site/faq.html

Francis Collins and Richard Dawkins have had a debate, organized by Time Magazine in 2006. https://iami1.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/god-vs-science-time-nov-2006-dr-collins-a-standard-bearer-for-scientists-who-believe-in-god/

I just have to reiterate this post on this particular thread. Which is why atheism is an irrational position, since it directly flies against CUMULATIVE EVIDENCES. Cumulative evidences are CORROBORATING evidences - evidences that stack up, lending support to the possibility of God's existence! From the observed claims by science (which they say support or compatible with Theistic Evolution)........ to the complexities and finely-tuned universe.......... .......and to MILLIONS OF TESTIMONIES who claim Godly experience(s) not only from believers, but from atheists/agnostics who've been transformed, and/or, convinced to become believers! Some of these atheists not only became believers, but they'd also became prominent apologists! The current most prominent would include Francis Collins, William lane Craig (remember him? the one who knocked down Richard Dawkins? ), Lee Strobel....... Atheism has nothing to stand on. It relies solely on BLIND faith!

Which is why atheism is an irrational position, since it directly flies against CUMULATIVE EVIDENCES. Cumulative evidences are CORROBORATING evidences - evidences that stack up, lending support to the possibility of God's existence! From the observed claims by science (which they say support or compatible with Theistic Evolution), to the complexities and finely-tuned universe.......... and to MILLIONS OF TESTIMONIES who claim Godly experience(s) not only from believers, but from atheists who ended up being transformed into believers! Atheism has nothing to stand on. It relies solely on BLIND faith!

Just like how the apostles kept journals of events......some of which were written from their varying perspectives! Much like one who kept a journal of the meal eaten on that particularly day would dwell much on the quality of cheese, or the serving size and the calories that came with it ........... another would just briefly mention the mac and cheese but rave about the side dish, which was grilled peaches topped with crumbled feta and pistachios, with that delectable vinaigrette on a bed of baby lettuce! Yeah, many would rely on faith - faith on what those people who kept journals would've jotted down what they ate on that day. If someone who kept journals say, "you had mac and cheese on that day" - how else can the one who doesn't recall, argue against it?

The only ban being bandied about is.....banning handguns! Yeah. Bring in the bloodthirsty loonies by the thousands, and dis-arm your population.