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So... you still haven't defined what the royal screwup was. Just parroting the talking point that there was no plan doesn't explain anything. As I have pointed out to others, you folks are conflating having a plan with being able to perfectly stop something from happening. There is no way to stop Iran from being able to threaten the Strait... other than taking out their military infrastructure that they use to threaten it.

It is such a stupid and dishonest tactic. Leftists: Pass a law, draft policies, and argue to for dudes in girls' spaces Conservatives: WTF, dudes do not belong in girls' spaces, they are jerking off in there, making them uncomfortable, raping them, assaulting them, and we don't want our daughters and wives to have to see some mentally ill dudes wang because he wants to underss in front of them... Leftists: Like, OMG, why don't you want to talk about the budget instead of this crap?

Well, this is the underlying stupidity of your whole thread. You have created some convoluted argument where you are conflating "natural" with right and wrong, human behaviors with animal behaviors, and mixing all that with "god" in general, which you won't specify. As I already pointed out, A LOT of things are "natural," so what does that have to do with how humans behave or should behave? What is "right" or "wrong?" You are conflating moralistic reasoning with instinct.

Ah yes, the classic leftist argument tactic. YOU spend your time on forcing laws and policies onto society and others, telling them they have to let dudes into girls spaces and when we say that is wrong, then you sit here saying OMG, why are you wasting your time on this you should be caring about the budget! Well, why are you forcing this BS on us? If you are more concerned about fiscal issues, then be concerned about them, instead of butchering children, and forcing girls to have to compete against dudes, and share their personal spaces with them.

The last known naturally occurring case was in the 70's in America. The chart you shared shows this. You posted a huge amount of stuff, I chose to focus on one area. No, the Sabin version did not have those limitations and was widely used in 1961. It was highly effective, evidenced by the steep drop-off of cases and eradication. Yes, Polio was eradicated after the Polio vaccine. You are conflating early skeptics from the 50's with the eventual consensus by the 60's that the vaccine did, in fact, work. This is not accurate either. Scietists have evaluated this has something to do with how people were exposed earlier in life in less sanitary conditions vs later in life as sanitary conditions improved. Either way, what we do know, what we have evidence of, and what I already outlined for you, is how when the Polio vaccine is introduced to a country with Polio, it quickly becomes eradicated as the population becomes vaccinated. Well, for someone so confident about this, for someone who brags about doing the research, not looking at how the vaccine worked around the world is a pretty huge oversight on your part. LOL

Speaking of “who” remember you can’t name who about Trump either…

So... what was this royal screwup if it is not your problem and the economic side will figure itself out as this plays along? You are both trying to say this is some epic problem but then also that it is not a problem.

Except you avoided all my questions and ignored my last point. I mean, other than that, sure... LOL

Once again, you think so lowly of your people that you think it could literally be anyone who would engage in criminal terrorism, shooting at a US Consulate.

You go from one absurd extreme to the other... DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ThEy AlL cAnT bE LiArS sO ThEy MuSt AlL bE TrUe DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR What you avoid is the point, that are ZERO credible accusations against Trump regarding children, child rape, or being a pedophile. You can't argue that so it just the DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

1. Who says homosexuality is not natural? In what context are you arguing against? 2. What "god" are you talking about? 3. You are conflating human terms with animal behavior. It is "natural" for Lions to kill each other to take over a pride as well as all the young cubs from the recently killed male lion. Are you saying human males should go around killing each other and the children to take over a family?

Funny how so much of the area is a bad neighborhood, and there is nothing cheap in San Francisco.

Your system is costly now. Anecdotal, but my good friend who is middle class earner complains all the time about his effective tax rate. From what I can see, it looks like on average middle class to middle class, it is 70% more for a Canadian: https://businesscouncilab.com/insights-category/economic-insights/the-typical-canadian-pays-70-more-income-tax-than-the-typical-american/ Nothing is free. You pay for this stuff in different ways.

We have a witness here, testifying against you. Which is just as much as you have. Being in the files doesn't mean anything. The files existed for years during the Biden administration; no one "withheld them" because their name was in them, as the DOJ/FBI do not publicly release their investigation files on criminals like this.

Yeah, I know her name was protected... it doesn't change the fact that you are here pushing an anonymous claim that was withdrawn, with no evidence and nothing any of us can evaluate. Again, it holds as much weight as the accusations against you here do.

Once again, I did respond to what you actually said. Here is you diminishing what Iran did as little more than a ball bouncing off a tree that you wouldn't call wrong: "Calling it "wrong" is about as useful and intelligent as calling it wrong for the tree bouncing the golfball you shot into it back at your nuts. " Here is you justifying what Iran did and mocking calling it wrong: "I mean, they can't fight the Americans symmetrically and this is one of their only points of leverage against the US, but they definitely should know that it's "wrong". 🙄"

Funny, because it's when I go to left-wing places like San Francisco and Portland that I find all the literal shit on the streets.

Here I go what? It is yet another anonymous claim that never went anywhere. Who is this person? Where are they now? Why are they not coming forward? What evidence did they have? The claim against you here has just as much substance.

When you try to justify their actions and shirk their responsibility for them, refuse to say what they are doing is wrong, that is supporting them. What makes it dumb? I described what you are doing, you got no response other than to say its dumb.

In your chart, the disease trended down something like 18 times. The only time it was ERRADICATED was after the vaccine. No blips, no outbreaks, gone. Erradicated because of a massive effort to vaccinate. Just as it played out in other countries, too.

Well, it doesn't say much for you that you are incapable of responding intelligently to many of the fact-based arguments I have presented to you on this forum when you think I am a brainwashed halfwit. I am still smarter than you are.

OK, what was the strawman? What was the change of subject? There is no way to "contain" Iran's threat against the Strait without destroying it... which means attacking them, which is what we are doing now. You are building some impossible scenario to attack Trump with, that somehow he should have been able to stop Iran from threatening the Strait before attacking. When there is no possible way to stop Iran from threatening the Strait without neutralizing the threat. Iran's moral footing has everything to do with this as you are trying to blame Trump for what Iran is doing. Again, you might as well be the other handful of pro-Russian sycophants on this forum blaming Ukraine for the Russian invasion.

True. Do you not know about Polio around the world, or in India? Do you think those things I stated are false? Point out which of my things you said you don't believe. I can and will gladly show you the evidence. Well, I never made any such assertion... As usual, you can't deal with what I say and have to resort to this childishness.

You were the one who compared this to a ball bouncing off a tree. Every step of the way, I am responding to your stupidity here. Once again, you could have just said it was wrong from the start, we are here because you refused and wanted to play games. We are dealing with it right now, systematically blowing up their military infrastructure along the Strait and seeking out assistance from any allies who would like to help secure it.

I also provided facts to support my case to refute yours. As usual, you ignore that. Just calling it propaganda doesn't make it so.