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My response was no more empty than what I was responding to...

You want to rehash where Bush was going on 9/11? Maybe take 5 minutes to do some googling next time. Bush was returning to the Capitol at first, but the attacks were still underway. Flight 93 still went down after they left Florida. Intelligence said there were still threats in WDC, so they went to LA to quickly address the nation and then to Nebraska because USSTRATCOM was based there and served as an ideal place to continue to operate from seeing as we still had no idea how many more attacks were to come or underway. He was there for maybe a few hours and then returned to WDC by late afternoon to address the nation that evening from the White House. He was in the Whitehouse that evening to address the nation. Go invent something else to pretend to be outraged over.

I travel to Canada for work about once a year, but I am not familiar with the day to day politics there, but I do find it amazing how the Police can go out of their way to arrest that Rebel News Journalist every other week for merely existing... and it sure seemed like they used the heavy hand of the law during COVID to destroy peoples lives that did not comply or the Truckers protest... but they can't find that these protestors are breaking any laws?

No, you have failed to use scripture and I have pointed out the flaws in your position with scripture. I brought up the parable of the talents, remember? I don't have to take anything as you say it... that is YOUR opinion now.

It was just too easy to point out its flaws... but for some reason I can't quite get Gaétan to admit that.

Well, yeah, you were and are. Israel is not removing Palestinians en masse through terror or violence. Palestinians are and have been living in the West Bank and Gaza for decades now and continue to grow. So again... maybe in 10,000 years at this pace there will be some ethnic cleansing, if a million other things all align on the way... Your position is hyperbole at best, an gross exaggeration, over settlement policy, much of which started with security because again, they lost a war and Israel is not all to keen on having their borders so close again. I guess the Palestinians should have taken any number of the previous deals out there instead of insisting on little more than the destruction of Israel or a return to 1948 borders that will never happen.

Enforcing laws != "State Violence" otherwise the term is near meaningless as the enforcement of laws always requires violence to those who resist. It is the folks on the left who want to selectively punish and target those they disagree with here, and ignore the folks they support when they do it. Perhaps your position will have more merit in another thread where folks on the right are arguing against enforcing the laws like this on folks on the right.

At this point, I have to think you are just trying to be difficult to be difficult. Yes, we were talking about not pushing our values onto the students in regards to sex. It is aligned with political views there, but that is not what you said, as if I said no business getting in their business at all. I want teachers to focus on kids reading, science, the arts, math, history... you want to have them teaching kids how to have anal sex. You and I are worlds apart here and it is not even close how far out you are. Except, that is exactly what you are doing here. You are demanding that "tolerance" means I must play along with your fantasies. You are trying to force that onto me. That is not what Pro-Life means, you are conflating desired outcomes with what it means. Regardless, the point here was simply that you offer no respect or tolerance that you demand from others. Yes, how males and females behave has been a social construct to some degree, influence by biology and psychology as well. But it is how males and females behave. This is the game folks like you are trying to play and have it both ways now, trying to argue gender and sex are different so a man can pretend to be a woman... but the point is that he isn't a woman, yet you also want him to be treated as such not just in partaking in the acknowledgement of the fantasy, no, but we much allow the man to use women's facilities and beat them up in physical competition too! No, this is a ruse on your part, and not a very well done one. Are you demanding that I pretend that a toupee literally means they do in fact have hair? No, I do not nor would I go out of my way to denounce anyone, but you and others in the LGBTQ movement certainly are demanding that from the rest of us, that we must play along or we will be branded as intolerant! Hateful! How dare we! Let me know when you figure out this basic courtesy thing for yourself. Where did I take issue with pride in one's self? Well, Autism is a disability. I am not being asked to pretend someone with Autism doesn't in fact have Autism. Just like the Pro-Life flag, there is zero ham in that message of loving both the mother and the unborn child. But you want to make it into something ugly for the sake of politics. Yes. Clearly you missed out on the whole Masterpiece Cakeshop guy, who the LGBTQ mafia set out to destroy his life, trying to force him to make them a cake with a dildo among other things... that is just one pretty big example. Nope, folks on the left and in the LGBTQ movement couldn't tolerate or respect his beliefs, they had to force compliance and use the power of government to try to do it too. So, tell us, did you support using the force of government to make him use his artistic abilities to design a specially themed wedding cake for a gay wedding? Lets see how tolerant you are.

Now, you are being obtuse. School Choice is clearly a term used to describe choice in publicly funded education opportunities, like vouchers, tax credits, or things like education savings accounts... But let's play. If that is your take on choice, don't expect people who choose something else to have to continue to pay for public schools either. Fair? Or... we just stop funding public education all together, let people choose to do as they please? If you are opposed to paying for public education, lets take you at your word, we won't fund it at all. I see you are a believer in the magic birth canal. You said: "It's not some wonderfully diverse cross section of American life. " My response was to point out that those who identify with being Pro-Life are, in fact, a wonderfully diverse cross-section of American life.

Yes, we live in a world of money and there is no scriptural foundation for a doctrine against its use as you are trying to argue. Where am I taking it by imagination? They are parables. They are not literal events, they are stories told to convey a point and message. I am focused on that message here. So, lets review: You tried to argue for a Gift economy... you couldn't, you failed repeatedly to explain yourself or answer basic questions. Now you pivot to wanting a society with money, only it should be one where everyone is paid the same and are using scripture wrongly to do so and ignoring the rest. So, what exactly is your argument now? What is it you want?

Oh, I see. So, if you are "Pro-Choice" then you must also support choice in all things... like school choice? Or maybe, the terminology is in regard to abortion and the status of the unborn child being a human life with a right to life. Did you already forget your big speech about kindness and tolerance and respect? You want everyone else to play along with a persons fantasy role play trying to be something they are not... but you can't even do the same here yourself. No, it is not even a matter of just not being exclusive. We are talking about significant spreads. About 50/50 Men women... etc...

This is a parable. I’m taking it as it was meant. Even taking it literally as you insist, all it does is completely disagree with everything you have previously argued. These people were paid a wage. That isn’t a gift economy at all. So now you are arguing for some kind of Christian theocracy where everyone’s wages are the same. And if you want to argue Christianity you are still woefully wrong about money, as there is no definitive position against money and in fact, we have the parable of the talents which flies in the face of what you are trying to argue.

You just love to change up the terminology like this, to build these little strawman responses like this one. I never said we should both stay out of teachers business. Public schools exist to teach a curriculum that is controlled by the public. Of course it is our business what is happening there, we are paying for it and we are hiring those teachers. No, what I very specifically said was that I oppose teachers pushing their politics onto kids, and to broaden that out some, generally schools as a whole should avoid steering into choosing sides or pushing particular political view points. LOL, for real? You can't muster up any courtesy here to refer to Pro-Life as Pro-Life and have to bring your bigoted snide remarks about religion into discussions routinely. You don't get to preach kindness and tolerance like you are on the high ground here. You are not, nor are the views you push. It has nothing to do with courtesy, it has everything to do with being honest and not playing a role in some kind of fantastical delusion. A biological male can't be a woman. Has nothing to do with what they want. I am stating objective facts here. You have no desire to respect truth here and you are the one demanding I and others partake in these fantasies. That is not tolerance, that is you and the Pride movement and the Pride flag pushing this onto others and demanding they succumb to your political ideology, then you have the gall to pretend like you are doing all this under a banner of how tolerant you are. Yessssssssssssssssssss. For all the same reasons you sit there typing away about how obvious it is to you that the Pro-Life flag is hostile as you claim... that is exactly the same sentiment others have towards the Pride flag. Which again, is exactly my point. Then you are going to pretend like there are not thug LGBTQ mafia folks out there pushing their rhetoric in hateful ways demanding compliance? LOL, look at you in this discussion, you can't even be at peace with my pointing out simple biological facts. Oh no. There are folks in the LGBTQ Pride movement who are just as hateful, full of spite, and full of intolerance shoving their views onto the world. We have come a long long way from gay people just trying to live a normal life. As before, if the message of loving the mother and the unborn child is a problem for you, the Pro-Life flag isn't the problem, you are. See, we can both play this silly game. So much for your acceptance and tolerance.

It is the Pro-Life movement, and my claim was not who was driving it but who identified as such. Gallop polls have consistently shown that the issue is spread across key demographics from race, sex, age, education, and even religious and non-religious. You care enough about your bigoted views on religious belief that you feel compelled to drag it up in several of our discussions now.

Actually, gifts are not bribes. Bribery has a very specific, nefarious meaning. Hanging out with your rich friend occasionally and having him pay the way is not a bribe.

So, you can't answer the questions and resort to random scripture instead. Is your argument that you want to impose a Christian theocracy on everyone now? I do not understand why you are quoting scripture. Never mind, the scripture you quoted has nothing to do with not having value to your labor. The point of this scripture here was that you should not be envious of what others get paid, or to the larger point, that God's gift of salvation is freely given to all regardless of when they seek it. That his followers may come young or old before they die. What does that have to do with a gift economy?

This is gibberish. If there is no way to calculate the value of your work... how does anyone know what they can afford? Just saying it depends on your choices and community is not an answer. How does that work?

LOL, come on indeed. Are you comparing the kind of warfare and eradication employed in Yugoslavia to Settlement disputes in Israel? At this pace, maybe in 10,000 years the West Bank will be "cleansed." *eye roll*

No one has bribed Thomas. What an outrageous accusation with no proof.

Of course it had to do with the quality of Roe. The Court had to reinvent tests for the lower courts to apply continually. Roe V Wade was never an absolute right to abortion anytime, anywhere, for any reason. So... again, it was poorly written, even by whatever absurdity you want to exist. Again, I am not interested in your religious bigotry and the issue of abortion is not so clearly divided. It actually spans a lot of demographics for those who are and are not Pro-Life/Pro-Choice. But I guess you feel better getting your little jabs at religion in...

What legal reasoning to you think will support such a law being found to be Constitutional? It's just more fear-mongering.

What am I ignoring? Be specific.

So, you believe she shot a puppy but then conveniently think she lied about the circumstances.

You continue with this false dilemma that we must choose porn or your SNM bondage classes for kids in K-12. You claim to be so concerned with porn, but you ignored my questions: Do you support legislation pushed by Republicans in various right leaning states to regulate online porn more to require age verification to help prevent kids from accessing it? Any other measures? Again, you are pushing YOUR values regarding what is a healthy sexual relationship and dismissing mine as prudish. My point here is that neither of us should be pushing our values regarding what is or is not a healthy sexual relationship onto children outside of basics like consent, safety, and consequences. You are the one being obtuse and quite frankly, disgustingly rude, with your mocking me about blow jobs while in the next sentence acting like you don't want to teach them about how to engage in (recreate) porn activities while you then flip back to a girl worrying about why her anus hurts because they did not use lube. Someone like you needs to be kept as far away from a classroom full of kids as possible. You have no business determining standards for what constitutes healthy sexual relationships or showing them how to do it. Then you wonder why folks think folks that are pushing crap like the PRIDE flag in the classroom have sexual deviant tendencies or there is some kind of sexual thing to it... that Venn diagram is starting to look an awful lot like a circle for your views on putting this smut into classrooms and your support for the PRIDE flag... No, I can't decide how people feel, but I can certainly point out objective facts. A biological male, who feels like a woman, pretends to look like one, act like one, is not actually one. That doesn't make me intolerant, it makes me a sane rational human being and your conflating that with intolerance is EXACTLY why the PRIDE flag has no place in the classroom, it is you shoving your political ideology onto kids. The PRIDE flag is just as much about superiority here to you, you have already admitted as much, as you assert that what it stands for must be accepted or those who do not are the intolerant ones! I already showed you what the Pro-Life flag stands for and you just fabricate things to oppose it. Nothing about it was superiority related. Where did the link I provided you say: "The pro-life (anti-choice) flag says that women should not have the right to choose whether to carry a fetus within them." It did not. You are just making this up. Which again, is exactly my point. You are here pushing your political views and trying to justify them and then dismissing mine. OR we just don't push our politics onto the kids... the classroom is not a soapbox for teachers or staff.

Trump, rightly, was still playing by the unwritten code of conduct. Once you are President, you don't continue to use your position to target your rival for prison. Biden was too old or too inept to disagree with his handlers on Trump. He would rather tear the country apart with this mess to "get Trump" and appease his radical base. Trump knows better now.