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He has to realize how beyond depraved he would be if he had to answer the satan dildo question along the same lines he has been arguing so he just keeps ignoring it or obfuscating to avoid it. And if he does own up to the fact that the satan dildo cake is so obviously disgusting and wrong to force on him and an example of LGBTQ intolerance... then he has to admit he was wrong earlier on trying to act like such intolerance doesn't happen.
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I never said the "couple in question" requested a Satan dildo cake. I said: "And beyond that, the LGBTQ community relentlessly bullied the man, trying to force him to bake a satan dildo cake." As I have repeatedly said now, it was the LGBTQ community trying to destroy this man and relentlessly bully him like this. And you KEEP ignoring this point. You ignore it now and you ignored it before when I proved you wrong when you mocked the notion that anyone in the LGBTQ side was intolerant forcing others to comply like this. No, the SCOTUS did, in fact, rule in his favor on the grounds we are discussing here; they punted on setting a larger precedent. I did not say a sandwich artist was an artist. This is your bad attempt at an argument. He was not a bakery churning out cakes. As I already said, they could have come in and bought any average cake. He was one man creating cakes for various things, including weddings. It is not the end at all, the Court ruled in his favor, Colorado, just like you, had a clear bias and intolerance against his religious beliefs. You are the one here using "tolerance" like a billy club to beat people into submission.
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Your second post in this thread: "I am equally upset that Israel has not stopped the bombing and is planning more raids and will not even sit to discuss cease fire. It seems that Israel is doing it's utmost to wipe out hamas regardless of the cost of civilian life." I had not reviewed all your others before I joined the forum. No, it is not genocide. I already explained this to you, and if you remember, that is when you went off on your tangent of nuking them all, pretending like you don't care. You keep saying there are no good guys, but I have yet to see you directly criticize Hamas by name and for what they did on October 7th. You keep criticizing Israel, and then when your arguments get picked apart, you resort back to the generic they are all bad comment acting like you don't care.
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LOL, more like you have been confronted with someone who picked apart your arguments bit by bit... so you just ignored the response and keep repeating the same thing again. No, not the exact same cake. Creating a wedding cake is an act of art, made for that specific occasion. They could come in and buy a birthday cake or any other cakes or baked goods. This has already been ruled on by the Supreme Court now. You call it patently absurd, but they provided quite an extensive legal review of this. A straight person could have come in and informed them they wanted a wedding cake for a homosexual wedding and been refused service as well. Even then, the point here was merely that they were not refused service for merely being gay as you keep trying to argue. Nope. I already explained this to you, they were not refused service for being gay. Says the guy who routinely has to interject your own hateful bigoted comments towards religion every chance you get. Are you going to keep ignoring the satan dildo cake?
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Welcome back! I see you have moved on from where we left off here and are back to making the same bad arguments to someone else instead. The baker, in this instance, was not refusing service to them because they were gay. Hell, how would you ever know someone was gay unless they told you? No, he refused to participate in their marriage, as his deeply held religious convictions precluded him from doing so. They could have walked in and purchased any other baked goods and walked right out happy customers. And beyond that, the LGBTQ community relentlessly bullied the man, trying to force him to bake a satan dildo cake. In your world of tolerance, are you here to tell us this man should be compelled by the force of law to bake satan dildo cakes, too? Look in the mirror. You are the one with the billy club beating people into submission while chanting tolerance.
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At this point, you are simply not telling the truth. It has already been pointed out to you they engaged in violence before counter-protestors showed up. Even then, being "peaceful" doesn't mean they were not breaking the law. YOU invite this lawlessness that leads to violence when you want lawlessness.
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The Trumpification of the Supreme Court
User replied to robosmith's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
No, we have checks and balances in place. Trump has to be elected and Congress would have to support him. When you bring such politically motivated specious charges... you are not going to win over people or Congress. And when you start a thread complaining about how the DOJ is not charging Biden, I will believe you have a care in the world about injustice. The system is designed just fine. Calling me names doesn't make your case any better here. -
Well, you certainly have proven your lack of interest in articulate argument. Yes, you keep claiming there are no good guys there and to nuke them all... but this is only after you spend your time complaining about Israel and making absurd comments like they are committing genocide. Now, you do it when pressed to condemn Hamas. Instead of condemning Hamas, you play this they are all bad game instead. So, if your position is to nuke them all, why are you on here complaining about what Isreal is doing and pushing Hamas propaganda to do so?
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I said Hamas. Can you not condemn them either or are you going to play this game as if they were not responsible for October 7th atrocities? Hell, even the biased UN had to quasi-admit it: "A UN envoy says there are ‘reasonable grounds’ to believe Hamas committed sexual violence on Oct. 7" https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-un-rape-oct7-hamas-gaza-fe1a35767a63666fe4dc1c97e397177e However, ordinary Palestinians/Gazans were out in the streets cheering Hamas on, celebrating them on their return with Hostages, publically berating the hostages/dead bodies of Israelis being drug through the streets. Ordinary Palestinians/Gazans were going across the border to take advantage of the chaos to loot. "New footage shows Hamas’s onslaught on the southern Kibbutz Be’eri on October 7, as well as dozens of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip joining the terrorists and looting the community." https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/new-footage-shows-dozens-of-hamas-terrorists-entering-kibbutz-beeri/ Here is your ordinary folks in Gaza...
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Not true at all. Here you are on this online forum, with all the time in the world to respond as you have been and continue to do so even now. You are incapable of offering a well-thought-out and articulate argument to back up the garbage claims you make. Has nothing to do with the time. I noticed you ignored the question of whether you condemned Hamas before I got here... should I just guess no? That you are all in with Hamas? Did you cheer them on October 7th for their rape, torture, and targeting of families and innocent people?
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The Republicans Who Want American Carnage
User replied to robosmith's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Yeah, we know. That is the problem. Folks like you encouraged this lawlessness and then you get upset when others take matters into their own hands. The fact that LEO did nothing or next to nothing is not proof there was no violence, we already pointed out violence. It is simply proof they did nothing. -
So, running out of any ability to even pretend to be able to respond with any kind of real argument... insults is all you have. I will be here when you are ready to admit you are not only wrong, but just pushing Hamas propaganda for them. I do have a question though, since I am new here, have you ever focused any of your angst or ire against Hamas or the Palestinian people for their part in the atrocity on October 7th? For Hamas tactics of hiding behind their people? For any of Hamas role in the tragedy they have caused and continue to cause for their people?
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Its not that you question me and ask for a source... the fact that you assert it is BS is the problem. That is no longer just you wondering if its true or not, or if I can back it up or not. No, that is you asserting it is false too. Something so easy to google or know if you pay any attention at all to these things. As you have already learned from me, I bring the receipts... and then you run away. ASPCA spending may not be what donors expect, CBS News investigation finds https://www.cbsnews.com/news/aspca-spending-donor-cbs-news-investigation/ Public outcry follows ASPCA decision to euthanize Oreo, ‘miracle’ dog who survived six-story fall https://www.latimes.com/archives/blogs/la-unleashed/story/2009-11-18/public-outcry-follows-aspca-decision-to-euthanize-oreo-miracle-dog-who-survived-six-story-fall PETA's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad History of Killing Animals https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/petas-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-history-of-killing-animals/254130/
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LOL, the ASPCA has killed far more dogs. They hoard their money in investments and offshore bank accounts. There have been numerous stories on how they have hundreds of millions in money hoarded away, they pay hundreds of their employees 6 figure salaries while giving 2% to 7% to animal shelters. The ASPCA. LOL What next, PETA? They kill dogs like they were Hitler enacting a final solution.
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I already told you what was happening. They are at war with Hamas and executing military attacks on Hamas. Their aim is not to destroy the Palestinian people. If they wanted to do that, they could have killed all of them in the first few weeks. Israel has enough military capacity to line up their arm and march across Gaza shooting everyone and anything that moves that their planes didn't blow up.
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No, it's not. Not by any objective review of the facts.
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The Republicans Who Want American Carnage
User replied to robosmith's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
It was a figure of speech. You claimed they were peaceful and then ignored them when we pointed out there was violence there and then tried to act like you did not move the goalposts by trying to claim "largely peaceful" proved your point. Also, claiming it is peaceful doesn't excuse the vandalism, trespassing, obstruction of law enforcement, and refusal to follow lawful commands. -
The Choice Republicans Face
User replied to robosmith's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
This became a much easier decision for me once Biden went on TV to regret using the term illegal immigrant to describe that illegal immigrant who murdered Laken Riley. When Democrats and the President have more concern over the terminology used to describe illegal immigrants rightly as illegal immigrants while they are being encouraged and allowed to pour across the border under their watch, voting for Trump became a whole lot easier for me to swallow. -
No, says any objective review of the evidence. 30,000 to 40,000 dead, at least 1/3 of whom are Hamas militants targetted in war, with the others as unfortunate collateral deaths because Hamas hides behind their people, out of a population of 2 million, is not a genocide.
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The Trumpification of the Supreme Court
User replied to robosmith's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
I can understand just fine, you are the one trying to have it both ways. You want to claim that when Trump gets due process the system is corrupt but when the DOJ is levying charges against him then everything is 100% on the up and up. So, back to my point, Trump is getting due process here. This is making you guys really uber mad because they can't just rush this through before the election. Justice is about justice, not trying to stop Trump from being elected. -
There is no genocide.
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The Trumpification of the Supreme Court
User replied to robosmith's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
The SCOTUS is part of the American justice system. A huge part of it. They set precedent all other courts must follow. Your position is nonsensical and contradictory. You cant claim we have the fairest system in the world to avoid having to deal with how the DOJ can be politicized and then also claim the SCOTUS is corrupted when they are ruling on the law…. you are trying to have it both ways. -
The Republicans Who Want American Carnage
User replied to robosmith's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
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The Trumpification of the Supreme Court
User replied to robosmith's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Make up your mind: "The US justice system is the fairest in the world" or "The SCOTUS has been corrupted by McConnell and Trump." Let me know when you figure yourself out. -
The Republicans Who Want American Carnage
User replied to robosmith's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
No, it was not peaceful. This was before the unrest with counter-protestors. And they were breaking the law. https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/pro-palestinian-encampment-blocks-ucla-students-from-entering-library-during-midterms/ You invite counter-protestors to take matters into their own hands when YOU condone and encourage this lawlessness.
