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Yeah, that's how it already is. Keep in mind, trans people make up 1% - 2% of the population. We're already talking about extremely rare cases. Trans kids are a fraction of that tiny minority and even then, not all of them go on puberty blockers. We're really talking about such a tiny tiny minority. But righty media has to pretend this is a huge problem because they don't have any popular economic policies. But you have double standards here. You trust doctors on every medical issue with the sole exceptions of the ones that right-wing media has politicized. Absolutely. The main cause of suicide among trans people is rejection from family. So in other words, transphobia. For a long time it was like that for gay people too. Gay people still have higher suicide rates than straight people, but they've dropped drastically as homosexuality became less taboo. I do watch media from all across the political spectrum. And while all media is biased in what they choose to cover, only right-wing media lies constantly. CNN is liberal, so they don't do stories that make capitalism look bad. However, CNN doesn't outright lie like Fox does. When Hillary lost in 2016, they didn't just say she won.

None of those are the claims you made in the post I responded to. This is another common fascist tactic. Y'all will make a claim you know is wrong, then when called on it, you'll strawman.

Can you give me any actual examples of liberals or leftists using the government to censor people? Or is it all just things like private companies choosing to deplatform nazis?

I think you're lying here because I already explained to you why this has the most utility.

Even then, they don't do hormone blockers right away. They try things like talk therapy first. Think about what you're doing here. You're trusting doctors to be professionals in their fields for everything except for trans issues. Why is that? Do you think it's because of right-wing fear porn? Yes, trans people have higher suicide rates than cis people, even with gender affirming care. However, gender affirming care reduces the likelihood of suicide. Yes! That's how it already is! Right-wing media is lying to you. They don't have a conveyor belt where kids are walking in, getting surgery, and walking out in the same day. It's always on a case by case basis. And if it wasn't like that, righty media would have been able to prove it by now. Matt Walsh has to lie because he can't prove his claims. The only people trying to shut down dialogue are conservatives who want to ban gender affirming care and any mention of LGBT people in schools. We never hear about Democrats trying to ban people from speaking or learning, only the fascist Republicans do that in America. It sounds like if anything, you're watching conservative media, which lies constantly, and centrist liberal media, which does a really shitty job of debunking the Right's many lies because they don't want to appear biased. Try watching actual left-leaning media like Vaush, the Majority Report, the Rational National, Secular Talk, the Young Turks, and David Pakman. I don't agree with any of those people on everything, some of them are even liberals. But they all do a good job debunking the lies you hear from the Right. The countries closest to the Left are the Nordic countries and the German Sprachraum. Those are also the countries with the highest living standards in the world. The more centrist countries are certainly better than right-wing countries, but they still don't have the highest living standards. I'm sure there are some people who believe conservative propaganda because they've been stuck in that bubble for so long. And I do believe that anyone can change. However, conservatism as an ideology is authoritarian in nature. And the right-wing establishment, as in the politicians and pundits, are all grifters who just want more power for the rich. They know their policies are horrific for the workers, they don't care.

The gay couple in Lightyear were minor characters. Whether you thought the movie was well-made or not, it wasn't about gay rights at all, it just happened to have gay people in them. Fascists also claimed that Avengers: Endgame promoted the gay agenda because there was one gay character in it who was on screen for like twenty seconds. But really, when you talk about "wokeness" or "the gay agenda" what you're really saying is that you want gender non-conforming people to be dead or in the closet. Lightyear was "woke" in that it portrayed a gay relationship exactly the same way family-friendly media portrays straight relationships. Fascists never just claim that individual people are destroying society. They claim that entire groups with immutable traits are destroying society by degenerating the culture. Fascists may single out certain people like Biden, but they don't stop there. They'll also say it's actually that LGBT people are destroying society. Even with Biden, the Right will often claim that the Jews are controlling him. Notice that the Left doesn't do this. Our view is that systems, especially capitalism, are the problem. Even when we do blame groups of people, they're not groups based on immutable traits. We recognize that even fascists and tankies can change because they are how they are as a result of material conditions.

Sure it is. My opinion is that we should leave medical decisions up to the patients and their doctors. Conservatives generally agree, except for when it comes to issues they can politicize like abortion. It is funny how conservatives will say trans rights go against science, but at the same time ignore the actual scientists when it comes to trans issues. But by "the Left's stupidity on the issue," you're referring to the view that most Americans have on this issue. Y'all do this with a lot of things. Conservatives also think that accepting the reality of climate change is a left-wing position, when really that's just science, and it's the view that most people have in America and Canada. But again, fascists claim that anyone who isn't a fascist is on the Left. So how come the strategy of endless transphobia failed in the midterms? If most Americans disagreed with the Left, why did the Republicans get their cheeks clapped?

Yeah, that's what it's like for gender affirming care too. Right-wing media wants us to think that if someone, child or adult, thinks they might be trans, the first option is surgery. The truth is that's the very last resort. Kids go on hormone blockers first, then later on decide if they want to get the surgery when they're adults. And even then, they're required to meet with psychiatrists and therapists and such. It's such a long process, the same way there are tests and attempts at alternative solutions before chemotherapy. Of course. No medical treatment is 100%. No matter what the surgery is, there are some people who regret getting it. The question should be, what is the success rate? And the success rate for sex reassignment surgery is extremely high. Also, that's not including the fact that trans people sometimes detransition because they can't afford to keep taking hormones, or that their family refuses to accept them. It really is sad that transphobia will force people to detransition, then the media will point to those detransitions as justification for transphobia. Absolutely not true. Gender affirming care does drastically reduce the chances of suicide. My dude. Look at all of the anti-trans propaganda in media. Look at how many anti-trans laws Republicans are making America. Do you really thinks kids are jumping at the chance to be trans in this environment? This would be like converting to Islam in China. The idea that kids are choosing to be trans because it's cool is beyond insane. We're not talking about dying hair here. We're talking about a long and grueling process to become something that makes you the "enemy" in the eyes of millions of people including one of our two main political parties. Keep in mind that hundreds of thousand of cis men go on mass shootings. The second it turned out that a recent shooter was trans, that's all that right-wing media talked about. This is hardcore nazi shit. CdnFox doesn't want trans people to have any rights. So we're not talking about the more complex issues, like trans people in sports. Please try watching some actual left-wing media some time instead of learning about leftists from right-wing fear porn. The idea that leftists want to tear society down is so stupid. Left-wing policy result in a more stable society. While there are no left-wing countries yet, the countries with the highest living standards in the world are all left-leaning. Whereas the worst countries in the world are all right-wing.

I know, right? Remember when Biden tried to end democracy because he lost an election? But you do vote for right-wing policies in Canada. America isn't the only country with angry incels that vote for fascism to own the libs. Yeah, but they should have known that America wasn't really at that point. Hillary Clinton sucks, but she wasn't THAT bad. Though to be fair, I can understand not knowing how bad Trump would be, nobody did. We didn't know he was going to go full fascist. However, voting for him in 2020 is legit inexcusable. At that point, you're just voting for suicide to own the libs. Not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that you're voting for fascism, even though it'll make you miserable, because it will be even worse for minorities. I think that's really moronic. That's how a child thinks.

Tucker has pretty much admitted that he's a tool who just says that the network wants.

So this might come as a shock, but neither of us are doctors. We generally leave extreme medical cases like that up to people who have spent years proving that they understand medical emergencies. Imagine saying to someone, do you think there's ANY scenario where pumping toxic chemicals into someone works out well, as an argument against chemotherapy. You're lying again. I already proved that most Americans side with the Left when it comes to trans rights. The whole reason why the Right lies so much when it comes to trans issues is because the truth sounds reasonable. Y'all have to lie in order to make it sound bad.

Likewise, you don't have to like Mulvaney as an entertainer or an influencer. But if you hate her for existing as a trans person, that's pretty weird. If you hate her for acknowledging that she's trans, that's pretty weird. The only reason it's not seen as absolutely unhinged is because it's still socially acceptable to hate trans people. Whereas if the exact same situation was happening because a celebrity is Jewish, we'd all be like, WTF? But when you say "woke" what you really mean is civil rights for people you don't like. When people say Anheuser-Busch went woke, what they really mean is that they acknowledged a trans celebrity. Fascists want LGBT people dead or in the closet. Anything other than that is "woke." The movie Lightyear was also called "woke" because there was a scene with a lesbian couple. What they mean by "woke" is that the movie portrayed homosexual people the same way they portrayed heterosexual people. Stop getting triggered so easily, I didn't say you're a nazi. I said your ideology is built on transphobia the same way nazism was built on racism. All fascist movements need enemies that are subverting norms. In modern trumpian fascism, the big enemy is trans people.

We should have made the authoritarians sit on the other side of the king. Because fascism doesn't benefit you. I would argue that it benefits nobody, but alright, I get how it benefits the rich in some ways. But if you're not rich, you're just voting to give away even more of your power to the upper-class. And what do you get in return? You suffer, but minorities suffer more? And you don't think that's kinda stupid? The problem with politics is that we have too many politicians that lie. So our plan is to elect a guy who lies even more than the other politicians! The economy that he inherited from Obama did well, until he destroyed it. This is like the real-life version of the surprised Pikachu face. We elected a mentally challenged person because we thought it would be funny, then it turns out he couldn't do the job at all. Tankies are "red fascists." Basically, authoritarians who use left-wing imagery, like Stalin and Mao. Yeah, cutting your nose to spite your face. If you insult me one more time, I'll blow up this house that we're both living in! I get the frustration, but people who voted for Trump to make a point are verfickt stupid. The only thing I think at least makes sense was the accelerationists who voted for Trump. But they were also wrong, as all that happened is we moved closer to fascism. Although, Trump is also destroying the GOP, so that's nice.

Do you really think that's how it works? Like a child says they might be trans and the doctor just does the surgery?

Conservatism is about enforcing hierarchy. They're ok with denying children welfare because those kids are at the bottom of society. If they die, who cares? They're not important like the upper-class kids.

I'm always right. But you do realize this is cutting your nose to spite your face, right? I've legit heard people say they voted for Trump because they hate SJW betas. And sure, we all hate the SJW thing, but what does voting for Trump accomplish other than making those people angry? Real patriots want to improve their country. They don't want to destroy their country in order to spite people they dislike. I absolutely despise tankies, but when Trump won, I wasn't thinking well at least this will drive the tankies crazy.

And Larry David makes fun of himself for being Jewish. Like how long do you want to do the bad faith thing? The point is that boycotting a company over a promo with a trans woman is insane. If it was the exact same situation, but the anger was over a person's race, we'd say this is racist. And the same way racism was one of the foundations of nazism, the modern conservative establishment has transphobia as one of its foundations. And Mulvaney didn't do her video because she's trans. She did it to thank the company for sending her beers with her face on them. The only difference is that at the time, the right-wing establishment wasn't using homophobia in its propaganda. It wasn't even using transphobia at the time. The Right only started with the transphobic insanity like three years ago because they realized they don't have any popular economic policies.

Women are being FORECED into public showers!

Babies don't, but as they grow up, they do. People are conditioned to identify as their gender from the moment they're born. It's ironic, reactionaries don't like that the media is teaching people to be ok with trans people. But we never talk about how media and society as a whole conditions people to conform to gender norms literally since they're born. It's normal, but it's not good. This is something we should work on changing. The same way it was normal for white people to freak out when a black family moved into the neighborhood. How so? Again, there's some irony here. There's no evidence that having trans women in a women's prison leads to more cases of sexual abuse. However, there's tons of evidence that prison guards abuse prisoners and often get away with it. But do conservatives care? Nope, the only time conservatives talk about prison reform is when they can use it for political reasons, like transphobia and freeing the 1/6 terrorists.

Didn't I already explain the difference between sex and gender to you?

Ok, so no examples. Like the saying goes, every accusation is a confession. The Right is trying to steal elections, ban books, ban drag, ban abortion, but because privately owned social media sites will sometimes deplatform nazis, it's actually the Left that is authoritarian.

The reason people liked Trump is because he was seen as a middle finger to establishment politics and anti-white political correctness. Very few Americans knew much about NATO. It was more about our own culture. The Right has changed since then, but only in terms of what they're blaming their problems on. Trump's popularity on the Right is still about grievances within the country.

Forced! Women are being forced to be naked! This is definitely something that is happening! That's not a right. And in professional sports there are strict rules regarding trans participants. That's why men aren't dominating women's sports in the Olympics. In order for trans women to complete, they need to have been on hormones long enough that they no longer have an advantage. Unfortunately, this is true. Conservatism is reactionary and anti-democracy. So it was very easy for the Right to go from conservatism to fascism.

Collusion wasn't the only thing they were looking for. Such as? Duh. They're comparing one of Hillary's scandals to one of Trump's scandals. Trump has tons of other scandals the meme didn't acknowledge. The truth is, the Benghazi scandal was completely manufactured by the media. Whereas the Russia scandal was real, but the Republicans pretend Trump didn't do anything wrong because he wasn't arrested.

Dylan Mulvaney's identity isn't completely wrapped up in being trans or fighting for trans rights. She acknowledges the fact that she is trans, the same way Larry David acknowledges that he is Jewish. So would Anheuser-Busch be promoting Jewishness by doing a promo with David? Uh-oh! Heineken did a promo with a gay actor. This means Heineken is promoting homosexuality and must be cancelled!