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Pretty small. Most sources I've seen have said like 1% - 3%. Basically, we accept that these people are outliers within the bimodal sex distribution. But we can't do the same for trans people, who are also outliers, because it might help Republicans win elections if we're transphobic.

I wasn't involved in an argument. I supposed I can debunk your weirdo transphobia if you want, though.

Nope. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/best-states-for-education https://wallethub.com/edu/e/states-with-the-best-schools/5335 Also, if you can't define what a nazi is, you probably shouldn't call people nazis.

Not what I said. What I said was: "Woke" doesn't mean anything. It's a buzzword that right-wing politicians use. Originally, "woke" referred to an awareness of social injustice. Now in that sense, I think being woke is real. But when it comes to the modern way that the Right uses "woke" it doesn't really mean anything other than a catch-all for anything the Right decides is bad that month.

Yes, we agree that everyone is capable of change. But if someone is completely disconnected from reality, there's no logical argument I can make to change them. People like that believe lies for purely emotional reasons, not because they're mistaken. Even these people, I try explaining why truth matters and how policies that improve society will improve their lives too. But usually, when they're at that point, they just don't care. And I don't have the psychological ability to give them the emotional tools they need. I live in America. I see liberal Democrats trying to do what you're saying to deradicalize fascists. It does not work. Obama spent years trying to reason with fascists and that was before Trump came along and really destroyed the Right's collective brain. Do you live in America or Canada? If Canada, how closely are you following American politics?

Enlightened Centrism is not reasonable. Though it is better than being a fascist, so at least there's that. While I do believe anyone can change, I also accept that a lot of people just don't want to. They've already become so detached from reality that all you can really do is debunk their insane points in front of fence-sitters and other people who are still open to change. You might have noticed I'm always nice to people who engage with me in good faith. But when it's clear that I'm talking to someone who is too far gone, then my goal is not to win them over, it's just to debunk their batshit insanity. And by the way, one of the reasons I'm a leftist and not a liberal is because liberalism is not a good defense against fascism. I'll vote for liberals, of course they're better than fascists, but I don't like liberalism either. Also, I'm not an idealist. If I was, I wouldn't vote for liberals. I'd be one of those Bernie or Busters who thinks that liberalism is just as bad as fascism. I believe that voting isn't about getting everything you want, it's about reducing harm.

Uh-huh. Just curious, do you think "George Soros" is giving us marching orders?

Agree to disagree. So pretty much all of them. This goes back to my point about how liberals will say shit like "We need the good Republicans, who stand up for democracy" when the "good" Republicans are like ten people. I'd like to remind you that today's conservatives want a candidate who "makes liberals angry." It's ok to call for a pox on both their houses when it actually is two sides acting insane, but in this case, it's not.

So first, you can't win arguments just by being mean. You do have to address and debunk the points, which I always do. But I'm also honest. I don't pretend that genocidal scumbags are just people I have disagreements with. One of the reasons America is on the verge of losing our democracy is because liberals think they can play nice with fascists. When 1/6 happened, we should have had mass arrests of Republicans and the GOP should have been banned. But liberals won't do that because they're afraid of looking uncivil. Like yeah, if only the liberals were nicer to the Nazi Party, they wouldn't have been murdered the moment the nazis took over. Some of them do in an attempt to appeal to as many people as possible. If anything, it just shows how the centrist approach only helps the fascists. But it's nothing compared to the Republicans who go hardcore with the reactionary propaganda. Democrats aren't great on LGBT rights, but they're not working towards genocide like the Republicans. He legit sounds like every conservative here. And the fact that he can't think straight because of his anger just proves my point about right-wing propaganda. There are essentially two types of people on the Right. The grifters who make reactionary propaganda to get people to vote for conservative policies, and the retards who fall for it because they're full of fear and anger.

Antifa isn't an organization. There's no membership, no leader, it's not a club that you sign up for. It's just a movement of anyone dedicated to fighting fascism.

I understand reactionary politics. It's really just about feeling better about yourself by harming others. Reactionary politics in no way improve anyone's life, but if you're crazy and full of hatred, it makes you feel better for a little bit. And the politicians understand all this. That's why so many Republicans use reactionary propaganda that they clearly don't really believe in. It's just a tool to get stupid people to vote against their own economic interest. Seriously, "Woke ideas are no more than 21st Century Nazism," he says. Does this sound like a mentally stable person focused on issues? Or does it sound like a dipshit blinded by hatred?

Nope. https://www3.forbes.com/business/states-with-the-best-public-school-systems-ifs-vue-wnb/?slide=49 Yeah, yeah, everything you don't like is nazis.

"Woke" doesn't mean anything. It's a buzzword that right-wing politicians use. The closest definition that "wokeness" has is just anything conservatives don't like, which they were already against before they started calling it "wokeness." What this poll really shows is that modern conservative voters don't care about the issues. They care about Trump and "owning the libs." The Right has always been wrong on the issues, but today's Right is just psychotic. And just in case you're thinking that some of them care about guns, Trump banned bump stocks. His supporters only claim he was pro-gun because he claims he is. It's really just a cult at this point.

What argument? Are you confusing me with the voices in your head?

Being anti-fascist isn't domestic terrorism, no matter how often fascists say it is.

You unironically said "woke" so whatever you said next was probably stupid.

? First, we still don't know if any of these people identify as anti-fascists. You're just assuming that. Secondly, Antifa isn't a group, it's a political movement like the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street. It's not a group that you join or leave like the Proud Boys.

I'm sorry, you're right. If one group of people does something over and over, that means anyone who shares their politics is just like them.

Not if it's all in one area over one dispute.

So a nazi is just anyone who thinks some people deserve to die?

What exactly is your definition of nazism? What traits must a person have to be considered a nazi?

What exactly is your definition of nazism? What traits must a person have to be considered a nazi?

Making fascists cry is not a crime.