Americana Antifa

Do you have any proof that CNN knew it was fake? There's a big difference between lying and just reporting on what they know, then correcting what they got wrong, which CNN often does. Conservatives also say CNN lied about Jussie Smollett, which is obviously not true, CNN just reported on what they knew, then reported that the story was faked when they found out. This is different from Fox knowingly lying about the Big Lie. And CNN never said that happened. What exactly do you think CNN lied about? TBH, it sounds like you didn't actually watch CNN, you just got second hand news on what they were saying from Fox. Sure, but that was the exception, not the rule. The vast majority of the rallies were peaceful marches. If a cop needlessly murders a civilian, are we not supposed to talk about it? What you're basically saying is that we shouldn't talk about things that might result in violence. Don't get me wrong, there is an irresponsible way to talk about things. If someone was saying "The cops murdered him, now it's time for revenge," that would be dangerous and irresponsible. But to just report on the story and demand justice, that's what should happen. Apology accepted.

I mean, he probably said that sushi is delicious at some point, he'd be right about that. But my point is that a fake news site isn't a good source. All news stations are biased in what the choose to report, but CNN doesn't report fake news. I don't know about the CBC, but CNN didn't make any claims about Russiagate until after several things were proven and people were actually arrested. The narrative that CNN was reporting that Trump colluded with Russia before the Mueller Report was released was a lie made up by Trump and then spread by Fox. CNN even downplayed the fact that when Trump's campaign was offered help from Russia, they accepted. As for BLM, the vast majority of their marches were peaceful. It's just that right-wing media only focused on the fringe cases so they can make the movement look bad. And I say this as someone who doesn't like BLM. I think the movement has failed to denounce rioting as publicly and often as they should have. I also disagree that most of these cases of police violence were racially motivated. But the truth is, the movement was generally peaceful. Name one thing I lied about.

Is Viktor Orbán a fascist? Yes or no? Nice try, but I didn't say all fascists are part of the GOP. I said that conservatives are authoritarian and that's why they support authoritarians. You have to lie because you know the meme is true. The Right pretends to care about "small government" but then they simp for fascists.

Yup, I knew you weren't going to answer that question. ?

You can't prove God does NOT exist! Is Viktor Orbán a fascist?

You're right, I should accept a known fake news site as evidence. Actually, I think Alex Jones also posted some proof of your claim.

The paper that I posted clearly says... *sighs* ... Sure, you're right. That's exactly what it says. Go forth smartly. ? We're not "designed" at all. Unless you believe in intelligent design, which would actually explain so much. The way conservatives talk about sex and gender has more to do with religion than anything. I think a lot of y'all believe that there are male/female souls. ROFLMAO - Now? I thought I called you out on being genocidal before. That sure is a lot of smilies in one paragraph. Hmmm.....

I would ask you for evidence that lots of trans people feel that way but, eh, we both know what the answer would be. Nope. Leftists actually go by data and trends, not fringe cases. When I say that the Right is authoritarian, I don't point to random fascists and nazis on social media, since that says nothing about the Right as a population. Instead, I point to the fascist politicians and activists that have huge followings. The fact that Viktor Orbán is so popular on the Right is evidence of the Right being authoritarian. No shit, that's part of gender dysphoria. Also, being trans is not the same as having gender dysphoria. The later is the condition.

"This article originally appeared in the the Epoch Times." Nope. Try again.

So what you originally said is: "Hormones is what your body produces because of your sex, which is geneticly determined not hormonally determined." What this source is actually saying is that the chromosome pairings will produce the hormones that create either a male or a female. Sex is determined at conception in that this is when the chromosome pairing and thus the subsequent hormone washes happen. This is partially what they mean by saying testes/ovaries will synthesize sex hormones that result in phenotypes. Also, this is a very short overview of sex that lacks important details, such as the fact that many people don't have an XX or an XY. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/differences-in-sex-development/ "Some people have a chromosome pattern other than the usual XY or XX. They may have one X chromosome (XO), or they may have an extra chromosome (XXY)." This is why biologists are saying that sex is more bimodal than binary. Even if two people both have an XX, the levels of hormones will be different. Plus we still don't actually know what the distribution for hormone pairings is because so many cases go undiagnosed. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-science-of-biological-sex/ "Further still, genes alone are not the whole picture of biological sex. There are a host of epigenetic factors at play, including hormone levels at different stages of development, hormone receptor sensitivity, and metabolic factors. All of these influence the development of sexual characteristics, which can vary along a spectrum. For example, there are XY females who are chromosomal males but develop mostly or entirely female because of androgen insensitivity. There are, essentially, women walking around who have no idea they have XY chromosomes." As usual, I know you don't really care about this, you just need "scientific" reasons to justify your support for genocide, but there are probably other people here who are interested. This is projection. Even if a person is wrong about something, that doesn't mean they lied. They could just honestly be mistaken. The reason you claimed it was a lie is because you actually lie a lot.

Bills aren't common knowledge. Especially ones that right-wing media made up.

"A group," eh? What group was this? Do they have a lot of members? Do we have any evidence that they represent a common view? This is such a common righty tactic. They claim that a horrible thing is about to happen and their evidence is that some random people with no followers on Twitter are demanding that said horrible thing must happen. There are actually some deaf people who don't like that scientists are working on cures for deafness. It would mean the end of deaf culture, which apparently is a thing. But how many deaf people actually feel this way? There's no evidence that this is a common concern and I'm guessing it's not.

This is the old "Well you can't prove God DOESN'T exist!" If you make the claim, it's on you to back it up.

You can go by that if you want, but that's not what the medical community goes by.

That's a no. ?

Nobody is pretending that gender dysphoria is good. We're saying it's ok if you have it, it doesn't make you a lesser person, and it's good to get the help you need. One day, we'll probably have a cure for gender dysphoria in the form of a pill, plus society will have reached a point where gender no longer exists. When that happens, there will be no more trans people, which is ok. What's not ok is trying to eliminate trans people through stigma or persecution.

Normalizing mental illness is good. If someone is mentally ill, they shouldn't feel like they need to hide it and just suffer in silence. They should feel like they can talk about it and get the help they need. It's the same thing with physical conditions. If a person needs a wheelchair to get around, they shouldn't feel ashamed. If a person can't see that well, they shouldn't refuse to wear glasses out of fear that society will look down on them. We absolutely need to destigmatize mental illness the way we've destigmatized physical illness. I LOVE cultural appropriation. What's wrong with appropriating womanhood? Womanhood is a culture. It's not exactly the same as an ethnic culture, since ethnicity is determined by heritage, whereas gender is determined by self-identity. But we all enjoy aspects of different cultures, whether ethnic or gender or whatever. I don't know if I explained this earlier, but sports leagues that allow trans competitors usually have rules regarding this. Like they'll only allow trans women to compete if they've been on hormones long enough that they no longer have a biological advantage. That's why trans women don't dominate women's sports. Trans women aren't more likely to commit sexual assault in prison than cis women. Again, there are rules regarding trans women in prison. Most prisoners will take into account how long the person has been on hormones and such. As for being allowed to shower with women, keep in mind that most trans people look like the gender they identify as. Personally, I think dividing people by gender in areas like lockers and showers is stupid, but if we're going to have that, it makes way more sense to allow trans people to use the spaces that align with their gender identity. Should Buck Angel use the women's showers because he was born female? Should Kim Petras used the men's showers because she was born male? How? First of all, keep in mind those terms are only used in a medical context. Secondly, how does more inclusive language harm women? Do you have ANY evidence that people are becoming trans because it's trendy? The idea that people would spend years in the hellish medical system so that they can transition, risking their relationships with their friends and family, knowing they will be putting their lives in danger because of the Republicans, all because they think being trans is trendy sounds absolutely insane. This is where America is at right now. The Republican platform is all about treating trans people the way the Nazi Party treated Jews. What you're claiming would be like claiming Swiss Jews are moving to the Weimar Republic because being Jewish is trendy there.

Do you have any evidence or examples of those bills?

Sex isn't determined only by chromosomes. It's determined by the overall hormones in a person. This is why most trans people are actually intersex, as most of them take hormones. Also, we don't know what Jenner's chromosomes are. Many people have a chromosome pairing other than XY or XX and aren't intersex. Unless you've actually been tested, you don't know what your own pairing is.

I agree. And that's how it is now. Also, puberty usually starts way before age 16. Puberty blockers are used for other things too, like early puberty. That's not really possible. We can never prove for 100% positive what the right move is. That's why we generally leave it up to the patient and their doctor. To paraphrase Raphael Warnock, a doctor's office is too small for a patient, their doctor, and the government. That's too many people. The point is that as society became more accepting of homosexuality, the rates of suicide among gay people dropped. Now when it comes to trans people, transition reduces the chances of suicide, but even after transition the suicide rates are still high due to transphobia. The biggest cause of suicide for people who have transitioned is rejection from family. So once again, we're at a point where as a minority group becomes more accepted, their suicide rates will drop. First of all, gender dysphoria stopped being considered a mental illness long before the modern trans rights movement. But ok, let's say it is a mental illness. We should treat it like every other mental illness which is to destigmatize it and encourage the affected person to seek medical help. And we should trust the medical community, just like we do with every other illness. This is what I mean when I say that we all trust doctors except for when it comes to issues that have been politicized. Very few people panic about doctors treating kids with bipolar because, unlike gender dysphoria, bipolar hasn't been politicized by the Right.

Some of those are true. The Clintons are extremely corrupt. It's one of the reasons so many leftists didn't vote in 2016. But I also don't believe every conspiracy theory about the Clintons, just because I don't like them.

Interesting how the vast majority of relationships in movies are straight and nobody cares, but then the moment it's a gay couple, all of a sudden homosexuality is being "force fed to them everywhere they go." This is literally like enjoying all of the MCU movies, then when they get to Endgame, suddenly the gay agenda has gone too far because they have a minor scene where Captain America talks to a gay man. It's obvious what's really going on here. You want gay people dead or in the closet. The moment a gay person is treated like a straight person, we've gone too far. Notice how I never dog whistle. I argue for socialism, then when people here call me a socialist, I just say yes, I am. I never use coded language or dog whistles. What's actually being a pusssy is arguing against ANY gay representation, then denying you're against gay rights. Or defending reactionary authoritarianism, then denying you're fascist. I know, right? Who do I think I am calling people "nazis" just because they're reactionary authoritarians who believe Jews are destroying society by promoting degeneracy?

It often seems like they don't even really believe this stuff, they just don't care about reality. They'll hear a talking-point they like and just decide now that's canon.

Do you really believe this or are you just trolling? I don't mind having this discussion, but it feels pretty cringe.

Um... yes? That's homophobia. There are tons of characters in straight relationships in kids' movies. What you're saying is that this is ok, except for when the characters in relationships are gay. The "wokeness" is just a gay couple existing. Like I said, you want LGBT people to be either dead or in the closet. If gay people are to exist, you want them to at least be second class citizens. Bullshit to the Nth degree. If you're too much of a puss to say what you really mean, I have no problem saying it for you. If you say that a movie is "woke" because it has gay people in it, because you're too much of a coward to say you just don't want gay people in media, I'm not going to play along like we don't all know what you really mean. Bringing up Jews is racist? You're really out of arguments, eh? This is just more dog whistling and then pretending to be shocked when someone calls you out. Biden is being controlled by international marxist bankers like George Soros! What? Jews?! No, I didn't say anything about Jews! I'm talking about "George Soros." The original nazis would be ashamed of what a wimpy beta you are.