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It’s bizarre that these weirdos back a guy who’s an obvious sexual predator and fraud. Donald Trump is a Piece of Shlt who inherited $400 million and still committed one fraud after another, had four kids from three wives, and cheated on all three. What a SICK F*CK.

Thanks Legal Expert. I’ve studied this in detail and there will not be a successful appeal, if there’s any appeal at all. Donald Trump doesn’t get to commit all the financial crimes he wants because Covid happened. On his watch, by the way. We all know what you’re doing: “Donald Trump is guilty as F*ck so I’ll talk about something else.” It’s called WHATABOUTISM. What about the War of 1812? What about the sinking of the Titanic?

What’s pertinent is that Trump is liable, he lost his suit, you read all the right-wing websites and you haven’t found a single rational explanation for why he shouldn’t be liable, so you want to pivot to something different. Tough nuts. Doesn’t matter; James can go prosecute Cuomo tomorrow if she wants, Trump’s done. Case is over and he’s gotta pay at least $450 million for this and $88.3 million for E Jean Carroll. Boo Hoo.

I don’t think bankruptcy will protect him at all. He might keep Mar-a-Lago from being sold, because Florida lets you keep your home, but he has a lot of other assets, like the 10,000 sq feet of Trump Tower, the jet, a bunch of golf courses, etc. Bankruptcy doesn’t mean you get to keep all your money and all of your assets. It means they ALL get liquidated and apportioned to pay off your debts.

Start a different thread about Cuomo.

I’d be happy to place a side bet with you that Trump never appeals his New York civil fraud verdict. He doesn’t have the money, and he won’t file for any extension from the court because he can’t cough up the money, because he doesn’t have it. And then the State of NY will liquidate his assets until they squeeze as close to $450 million that they can. And it doesn’t matter one bit if he’s President, he will still be powerless to stop it from happening.

Has nothing to do with Orange Man Must Pay $500 million. Covid is over, Cuomo isn’t governor any longer. He won’t be prosecuted over his mistakes.

None of this has anything to do with truck drivers thinking they can overturn a judicial ruling. They cannot. They can boycott New York for eternity, it won’t overturn the ruling. FACT: Trump lost his case. FACT: Trump owes over $450 million, plus another $88.3 million. See? I’m not ignoring facts at all.

Deflection Deflection Deflection Deflection Judge ruled against Trump. Done deal. Fat Orange Man Must Pay Up or his Property Gets Seized.

The fraud case has nothing to do with Covid. You know you’ve lost the argument so you’re grasping at straws. The law states that you cannot commit fraud. Under New York State law, Trump and his organization committed fraud for many years. Trump did fail to repay loans to Deusche Bank; it’s been well documented. It’s entirely possible that the bank did not want to present itself as being hostile to a powerful political figure, or they didn’t want to present themselves as being easily fooled. But the law is the law, and it’s been applied many times (this is not the first time). I’ve had to make financial disclosures before and I knew perfectly well that there were legal consequences for making false statements. Not “arguably false” or “wiggle-room false”, but in Trump’s case, “Demonstrably false several times over.” One obvious example is repeatedly stating that his Trump Tower penthouse was 30,000 square feet when it was 10,000. There’s nothing vague about that, it’s a 300% overstatement and it’s clearly fraudulent.

1) Covid has nothing to do with New York fraud laws. 2) The Attorney General of the State of New York does not report to the Governor. 3) Andrew Cuomo isn’t Governor now. 4) You’ve clearly lost this argument because you cannot defend Trump’s fraud, so you’re trying to make it about Covid. Do you think Trump can get an appeal by saying, ‘Hey judge, Covid blah blah!”?

You can get a bond. But I doubt anyone would be dumb enough to write a half billion dollar bond for a fraudster like this guy. Let’s consider Trump’s case: The judge made a summary judgement ruling back in August. That’s when Trump knew he lost the case. So he had about six months to put together cash for his appeal. If he were to file a motion with this court or the appellate court showing that he’d put together $100 or $200 million, and explained the steps he’s taking to liquidate more assets for the remainder, then I’m pretty sure the court would give him the time. But for the guy to act as though he’s been blindsided and unwilling to put up any cash at all, after stating in sworn deposition (under penalty of perjury) that he had $400 million in cash… no deal. So I don’t see how it’s unfair. What’s more, Judge Engoron’s ruling is well-written and thorough, and Trump’s lawyers have yet to explain to anyone what he will base any appeal on. You can’t file an appeal and whine that “It’s unfair! Wah Wah! Boo Hoo!” You need to point out a specific fault in the judge’s actions or decisions. Given the extreme hostility Trump exhibited towards this judge throughout the case, I think the judge was very calm and as impartial as possible, knowing full well that he’d throw the book at him when the time came. So he bided his time, threw the book at him, and he did it with a solid, carefully written ruling. Unfair? I think that’s what you get when you spend months insulting and threatening a judge, his family, and his staff. Trump’s lucky the judge didn’t throw him in jail.

Nothing you’ve said is true. Valuations are objective. There are professional appraisers and GAAP procedures for assessing valuations. And while there is variability, it is not by a factor of 100X as Trump often used. You don’t “invent” a valuation, you use an independent appraiser, OR, you can follow the commonly accepted practice of comparing to recent transactions. When Trump was asked how he evaluated his properties, under oath, he said he relies upon instincts. Other witnesses said he simply told his staff how much he needed the properties evaluated at and then they worked backwards to arrive at those results. They went for civil because that’s what the law says. The laws he violated in this case were state laws. But you might have noticed that the Feds are plenty busy with Trump these days. The Governor of New York does not have authority over which cases the independently-elected State Attorney General chooses to prosecute. There is absolutely no legal basis for overturning this ruling. You didn’t read the judge’s decision, you’re just regurgitating talking points. The cases would have been completed sooner, except Trump spent years blocking the release of his tax returns, getting the US AG to take the fight for him while he was President, and engaging in every delay tactic that $50 million can buy you… which is a lot.

I didn’t read anything in Engoron’s order allowing Trump to post only $5 million. He needs to cough up about $450 million or more, in cash, to file an appeal.

Where did you read that New York State Executive Law 63(12) pertains only to consumers? “Whenever any person shall engage in repeated fraudulent or illegal acts or otherwise demonstrate persistent fraud or illegality in the carrying on, conducting or transaction of business, the attorney general may apply, in the name of the people of the state of New York, to the supreme court of the state of New York, on notice of five days, for an order enjoining the continuance of such business activity or of any fraudulent or illegal acts, directing restitution and damages and, in an appropriate case, cancelling any certificate filed under and by virtue of the provisions of section four hundred forty of the former penal law or section one hundred thirty of the general business law, and the court may award the relief applied for or so much thereof as it may deem proper.  The word “fraud” or “fraudulent” as used herein shall include any device, scheme or artifice to defraud and any deception, misrepresentation, concealment, suppression, false pretense, false promise or unconscionable contractual provisions.  The term “persistent fraud” or “illegality” as used herein shall include continuance or carrying on of any fraudulent or illegal act or conduct.  The term “repeated” as used herein shall include repetition of any separate and distinct fraudulent or illegal act, or conduct which affects more than one person.  Notwithstanding any law to the contrary, all monies recovered or obtained under this subdivision by a state agency or state official or employee acting in their official capacity shall be subject to subdivision eleven of section four of the state finance law. In connection with any such application, the attorney general is authorized to take proof and make a determination of the relevant facts and to issue subpoenas in accordance with the civil practice law and rules.  Such authorization shall not abate or terminate by reason of any action or proceeding brought by the attorney general under this section.” The case of New York v Feldman has already established that this law does not pertain only to consumers, and nowhere does the law say that it only pertains to consumers. As you can see, the word “consumer” doesn’t even appear in this law. You can read all of Judge Engoron’s summary decision, and see that he addressed each and every one of Trump’s objections, by stating the law and any prior legal decisions pertaining to their objections: https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=op8OyfqVHpc6eGTx9LOw3Q==&system=prod

To appeal, he must put up the money. Trump said in a sworn deposition that he has $400 million in cash on hand. Guess we’ll find out if that’s true, won’t we? Just curious: With all of Trump’s talk talk talk… What is the legal basis of his appeal? Did he not lie on all of those signed documents?

Let me ask you a super easy, softball question: What is Trump’s legal defense to the fraud which he committed in New York? Here’s a specific one: What is the legal defense to the fact that Trump repeatedly stated, on signed, sworn documents, that he owned a 30,000 square foot penthouse which was actually only 11,000 square feet? Just answer that. Here’s another softball: Do truck drivers think there’s any possible way that their actions can reverse a court decision?

How is calling a 10,000 sq ft property a 30,000 sq ft property an “overestimation”? How is calling a $26 million property a $1 billion property an “overestimation”? There are standard method for evaluating and estimating values. Evidence, including Trump’s own sworn deposition, proved that the Trump organization did not use these methods, and even Trump admitted that he just made up evaluations from his “instinct.” But when you have mar a lago re-zoned in order to permanently reduce its value, and you report to investors it’s still a property that can be sub-divided into separate residences or resold on other ways, that is deliberate fraud. Turns out; fraud is illegal in New York. I assume it’s illegal everywhere.

No, that’s just you projecting your insecurities.

I’m having a lot of trouble with this. These aren’t parking ticket offenses. $25 million Trump University fraud, civil rape and defamation to $88 million and now over $450 million in fraud…. But a kid steals a woman’s purse with $100 and he’s a felon. Trump’s criminal convictions are only a matter of time, but his lawlessness is extreme. And I’ve had to file financial statements before. I was well aware that there can be serious consequences for lying on those documents, and Trump did so routinely, for decades, and grossly. In my book, that’s criminal.

I don’t know why Trump behaves the way he does, but he’s finally being brought to justice. Cause the facts prove that he broke the law. Courts said he broke the law that’s why he lost his cases. If he’d followed the law he wouldn’t be in all this trouble. You gotta admit… the guy loses $5 million in a defamation case, and defames the woman the very next day… he’s got some issues with self control.

If you're telling the truth, why hasn't Comer had anyone testify or provide any written evidence of these alleged crimes?

Yeah, actually, I think that someone who got arrested at a KKK rally is frickin racist, and someone who gets fined and sanctioned multiple times for refusing to rent to black people is a racist. Strange that you don't agree.

Donald Trump lost an $83.3 million defamation lawsuit on January 26. He must post $100 million in cash if he wants to appeal. Deadline: February 26, four days. If Trump does not put up $100 million in cash by February 26, he must pay E. Jean Carroll $83.3 million. If he does not pay, Carroll can (and will) go to court and have Trump's assets seized, either bank accounts or real property. Deadline Two: Trump has until March 18 to put up over $400 to $500 million in cash if he wants to appeal his fraud verdict. Once again, if he doesn't put up the money, he cannot appeal and must pay the full judgement. Trump recently stated in a sworn deposition that he has $400 million in cash on hand. Now we'll get to see whether the shoe salesman really is a billionaire or not... or we'll see what lies he comes up with the explain why he said he has $400 million in cash but can't cough up $100 million of it for an appeal he swears he'll file. The truth, of course: Donald Trump is a criminal and a liar. His entire legal defense is claiming that the prosecution is political, but if you haven't broken the law, then your defense is that no evidence of wrong-doing exists. But it's hard to do that when there's a photo of you next to a woman you say you've never met, and there are financial records, and when you defame someone on live national TV the day after losing a defamation case against them. Don the Con is going down in bright orange flames. Even getting elected President won't stop him from losing his money.

Who’s gonna stop Putin from taking Canada? You clowns? Ha!