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I have also lived here for decades with and in the public service. You must have been a minion with coloured glasses. My view is from having worked there at a high level. Do the PS try to comply with wishes and desires, yes, if within the present rules. Do the politicians always get their wishes? No, not as often as they want. Does it create issues, yes but there would be never be a situation where rules were bent to appease a politician. There is no politician or high level manager or public servant that would put their name to such a document. The human reality is if you get an indeterminate position within the public service, unless you commit murder on the job, you are there for life LOL (or are a CRA employee that took CERB payments) Public servant never ever make policy or rules, they enact them after legislation has passed. The acts or bills or legislation has the changes (and even wording) to the rules within them. The PS just incorporates those into the manuals. If there is a conflict or contradiction between the new legislation and existi9ng, then the new is not enacted until that conflict is resolved. That happens on occasion and the new legislation is delayed , recalled or cancelled. Case in point is this new law that requires social media giants to pay for news links...it was passed early in the year by parliament and the senate but it has not yet been enacted because there are conflicts and contradictions. Back to topic, fact is Justin Trudeau has nothing to do with the state of 24 Sussex in renovations or demolition. He could not care less and whatever happens is no concern of his. Will he make a public announcement of what will happen? Of course, that is the PR he and all politicians desire. LOL

Groot, been in Ottawa as a Military member and public servant to know exactly what I am saying. You live in some kind of imaginary public service land if you think PS folks are just fired and shuffled on a political whim. You are trying to blame Trudeau for the 24 Sussex issue and you are way of course.....period. He has nothing to do with it. Also, you seem to know little and are not interested in knowing anything about the NCC and it's power, so be it, remain ignorant. NCC board members, they are appointed for a 2 year term and may be elected for an additional 2 year term and they they are out. It is not a position for life LOL. Geez Groot, even you can apply to be on the board (as they are not politically appointed). You should, you may actually learn what is actually going on and what it is all about LOL Are you really aware of how policy and procedure are enacted?? Parliamentarians pass bills and acts and then the public service proceeds with them. No public servant ever made a rule, regulation or law. I have told you all along, PM's, for decades, (including Mulroney, Trudeau Sr, Chretien and Harper) have done nothing to fix 24 Sussex. Trudeau was at least smart and Trudeau would not even move in. Finally you got that through your thick head LOL He has no control or power over what goes on on NCC land or heritage properties.

Oh stop. LOL This is about the deteriorated house, not a PM that does not even lived there after what, 13+ years? LOL Some, nor as many as you may think, deputy ministers are appointed but normally when the presiding party leaves office. Deputy minsters cannot override NCC decisions (or lack of decisions). Try firing a servant Ha! Good luck with that LOL There has never been a public servant fired by a PM or minister. There would be a huge union shitstorm LOL The PM does not "make the rules". He would have to pass a bill or act to change existing rules and regulations. No civil servant ever challenges the PM, they just point out the rules, regulations, acts, bills and laws and complies with them. In my experience with 2 major crown projects we have often had ministers (his staff actually) try to interfere and all we did was tell them to send us official letter telling us to violate the procurement procedure. and which of the regulations to violate. We never heard back. Bottom line is that Trudeau did not even move into a house that was deemed unlivable. All the complaining Harper and his predecessors did changed nothing so, the house sits empty. Trudeau has nothing to do with it.

The study never concluded that at all. While it may have challenged, it proved nothing. 50 people 99 less days in shelters over a year proves nothing. Plus, they got the $7500 on top of any other assistance they already get. ($10K+) Here is the study https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2222103120

The study was over a period of a year. That is 365 days. "99 fewer days homeless, and spent 55 more days in stable housing." means what?? I think the study proved nothing except 50 people got $7500 to spend and they had a good time doing it but, where are they now....still homeless? How did the 65 people in the control group fare??? Nothing said. My point is that it was a stupid study with nothing but more questions in the end.

No one listens to losers. You will never be heard. LOL

Roll your eyes all you want but, reality is quite different form you perception. For some reason people think that the PM is the almighty leader. He is not. Fact is, he leads government in policy and makes laws not government processes or how things are done. It does not matter if he is liberal or conservative. You can claim he tells bureaucrats what to do but you are wrong. He makes requests and if it is within the rules, it can be done but still may not.

You are just a biter little man because no one wants to deal with a loser like you. LOL

Stay on topic Loser. The government tells people to stay home, they get paid. During COVID, many people, government and others got paid. Right now, people that were told to get out or stay home because of the fires are getting paid. Before you post, get real information Loser.

When you know what you are talking about, post, when you don't, like now, stay off. Loser

PP is in no position to say anything. He is not the PM an dnot in charge of anything. That and he is living rent free in Stornaway. Plus, he did not say to tear it down or fix it, just that it would be low on his priority list. Typical, he says nothing again LOL It is low on Justins list too because 24 Sussex sits empty LOL

What kind of BS are you blowing now?? Stay on topic you loser.

I know exactly how the government wortk in Ottawa. Live here and was in it. Evert PM since the 50's has told NCC to fix 244 Sussex and they do whatever they are told, no more. Chretien (and his wife) fights with NCC were legendary and the house is still a POS. OI think it is you that does not understand how bureaucracy works. The PM is a civil servant, just the the others. He may want but he does not dictate or often, does not get. No, he cannot just tell the NCC to tear it down. It is a Heritage building and the rules for those are, well, onerous, at best.

I think Montreal, a big city with lost of stuff for the homeless is a long way from North Dakota LOL Not a very well thought out comparison

Frrack dude....can you ever stay on topic??? What a loser.

Look behind you...your back pedalling will make you fall down. Oh wait, you already fell down the BS hole. No amount of excuses or whining or back pedalling or deflection will take you away from your asinine comments and attitude. You embarrass your regiment. Give it up unless you want the BS hole you dug to get bigger. Loser. Get back to the topic dude,the Pirola Variant

What is this about??

Quit deflecting you lying sack of shit. No matter how hard you try to deflect from your murderer and torture worship posts, you still are the worst of the worst. Born again christian my ass!!! LOL A F'n Loser... and not even born. again, always were a loser.

Yes but, NCC political cowardice. JT never even moved in back in 2015. he washed hos hands of it back then and NCC still continued with its decades long waffling. Here are the latest ones to blame for inaction on 24 Sussex. https://ncc-ccn.gc.ca/board-of-directors They all got some work done on the residence (except JT who never moved in). So no, it is not bullshit, it is exactly that. No PM did anything substantial, no PM could pressure the NCC and 24 Sussex is a neglected POS because of it;.

You lying POS. I was CWO, equal to your RSM and would never had anyone like you in my group for very long. No room for lying POS in any gord military organizations. Give it up loser, you ain't anything, you are a nobody, just a blemish on a great regiment and soldiers within.

Get lost you lying POS. You have proven how much of a loser you are. A defender of torturers and murderers and wanting genocide of seniors. Your regiment is embarrassed by you and your actions. To actually claim your RSM told you to kill is despicable and a discredit to a man with such high standing. You F'n loser!! This is Canada and really, there is no place for A Holes like you.

For me service in the Military was a duty to Canada and Canadians. Your 15 minutes of part time serving was a mistake by your leadership to keep you around. Fortunately they saw that you were a loser and punted you.

As you know, the house has been a money pit and in desperate condition for decades. JT does not own it. No PM owns it. It belongs to, ready for it, the NCC, the National Capital Commission, which is you, with members for every province. They have not made decisions. As you say "You don't get a free pass because the last PM did not fix it.." and that include every PM since the 50's. If you are going to judge, then you need to judge every PM since the 50's. Fact is a bureaucracy has let this house become shambles. A bureaucracy that every PM has had to deal with. The same NCC that want to shut down Wellington Street in Ottawa. The same bureaucracy that shut down the Queen Eizabeth parkway to cars so local residents cannot get home but the few bicycles on sundys can ride on it. Bottom line is JT cannot do anything abut it just as previous PMS could not do anything about it. Don't make this a liberal political thing, it is a Canadian NCC problem. Oh and, I live in Ottawa and think the NCC is a waste of office space. Lots of people (political appointees) making lots of money but not doing a damn thing.

You lying sack of crap!!!! You embarrass everyone that has ever served. Not just a loser but a lying SOB loser.

Loser, calling your regimental heroes murderers. Bet your RSM and all members are proud of you... NOT!!!!!