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Support for Meta, Google etc on news charges dispute
ExFlyer replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Michael, we can go on forever. You know my stance and I think you may be trying to convince yourself of yours. I think I will leave this now. -
Support for Meta, Google etc on news charges dispute
ExFlyer replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
1. Bottom line is that it is internet. Are you implying that internet, something over the ether should be controlled by our government? That a company that uses the ether has to comply with rules made specifically against them? As I said, Canada can just ban them like China does. 2. 3. Well, why just social media? 4. I am not for over regulations. I am not pro nationalism just for demonstration of strength. If China wanted to buy our newspapers, what would we do about it?? I will tell you, nothing, we would do nothing. We let whomever buy whatever whenever in Canada. 5. The sites are open forums. the have few rules and it is up to the user (not government) to abide by them, just like repoltics. 6. No, our democracy is based on the British system. If comparing to the americans, do you think in any way that Americans would take it if the government fines internet sites for copying news clips?? I think not LOL 7. Yes, news papers and stations killed themselves, not Facebook.; -
PP has not answered anything. He is just spouting rhetoric and fluff. Justin is far far from "my man" LOL
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Support for Meta, Google etc on news charges dispute
ExFlyer replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
1. It is not a tariff as internet usage is not trade. 2. The internet is not regulated and those that use it are not regulated yet, the government has chosen certain social media companies culpable for what users do. If you wish, our government can become like China and just cancelled cut off and bar anyone they don't like if they speak against them. How about that? 3. No, I do not believe in regulating internet, social media, nor media nor content nor ownership. Fact is, the government says people posting links are content providers and social media is responsible As a result, social media should pay for users posting that content. Maybe every poster that posts a link or clip or cut and paste should be fined for breaching a copyright law? I am not sure what your idea of "public discourse" is in this context. I think the ones whining and crying is the Canadian news media and, regardless of what, on this forum, think of them, the government decided (or was led to believe) social media is the reason they are dying. That is BS. The Canadian news media committed suicide, became monopolistic and people were tired of their partisanship and stopped reading the papers and watching the mainstream news. The news used to be pure who what when where and why and now,most pages are just op ed opinion pieces. Little news and lots of opinions. -
Give it up fisherman. I will no longer entertain your whining. Have a good day.
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The chances of electing another zero are pretty even. Trudeau or Scheerr?? Trudeau or O'Foole?? Trudeau or PP?? Trudeau or Trudeau?? What makes you think PP is not an "image" too?? His advertisements are re-making an image for him My opinion is that when Harper left, the conservatives should have kept Rona Ambrose. She would have wiped the floor with Justin.
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Dirty Doug’s Den of Deplorable Developer Deals
ExFlyer replied to BeaverFever's topic in Provincial Politics in Canada
He should have resigned and I do think he should be investigated but, Proof of your claim please. -
Support for Meta, Google etc on news charges dispute
ExFlyer replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
1. Tariffs? Are you insinuating we should put a tariff on the internet? 2. Yes, Meta and many social media sites are also a business. 3. I believe in regulation of political influence, foreign or otherwise. Oh wait, we do have lobby regulations. As a matter of fact, Meta and other social media (including repolitics) has people trying to influence politics of others. The key is people...not the social media sites. Do you think that Meta should identify these people to the government so they can be fined or charged or whatever? Or should the site be fined? -
Support for Meta, Google etc on news charges dispute
ExFlyer replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
I agree, media may not be a commodity but, it is being sold and bought. I do believe in protectionism but, it does not as far as making companies pay government for something the users do with the company product. Social media is not illegal. -
I looked back and never mentioned unauthorized fishing. Feeling guilty? What I said is that you east coast fishermen caused your own problems with over fishing. Then you whined and the government closed you down to allow replenishment of the stock and you continue to whine, as you are doing. Looking for someone to blame and it was always you.
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Support for Meta, Google etc on news charges dispute
ExFlyer replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Bottom line Michael, we are not going to agree. I do not think social media should have to pay for what you post in it and never will. If Canadian media cannot survive, I have no sympathy. TV media is owned by 2 (?) companies, newspapers are owned by 2(?) companies. If they had a product that people wanted, they would survive but clearly, the people of Canada do not like what is being offered. Why is social media made to pay for their failure? (on top of $800+ million already dumped on them by government). My local news used to be local news , now it is 15 minutes of the hour on local and the rest is Toronto produced stuff. I cannot support them anymore and it ain't my fault. -
That is the thing, PP has done nothing for me to dislike him but, more importantly, he has done nothing to get me onside with him. I don't want a hero, but I also don't want a zero. I have not made up my mind who I am voting for, it is still a long way off and hopefully PP can convince me he is worth the vote. His recent commercial makes him look so much like Justin, that turns me off. Yeah, we have had 8 years of Justin but that seems to be the Canadian way. We seem to keep PM's for about 10 years and then they spoil, so we change. Should be a limit on how long they can sit on the throne.
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Support for Meta, Google etc on news charges dispute
ExFlyer replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Michael, Canadian media cannot save itself so, you think Meta and social media should pay to save the same media that are using social media?? Michael please, makes no sense. Making the platform pay government for something you freely use. What if the government wanted re-politics to pay for every link and article you post?? Is that OK? You are saving the Canadian news media. -
Support for Meta, Google etc on news charges dispute
ExFlyer replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
C'mon Michael. We Canadians have sold our selves away for decades. This is not new. The US tech companies are not the ones using and posting on Facebock, xxx , twit, or other social media. That is Canadians and Canadian Media. Why not bar Canadians form using social media??? -
Support for Meta, Google etc on news charges dispute
ExFlyer replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Meta and the others have been telling the government if they encact the legislation and make them pay if "news" is on their pages, this would happen. Now that they kept their word the governemtn is pissed. Bottom line is this, Meta and the others are open social media. If you post a news link, it is not Metas fault, it is yours. Even the news outlets themselves had pages on social media. Now the government want social media to pay for what you post? Or what the news media itself posts? What BS is that?? The government is already supporting Canadian content, to the tune of at least $800 million just last year. I think that they should put a special tax on everyone in the country to support Canadian content, like the carbon tax. They can call it Media Tax. What about making all foreign owned companies paying a special Canadian tax because they are selling their stuff to us here?? -
Yeah sure. It would end up like legal cannabis stores. People still get their stuff form illegal sources. https://www.thestar.com/business/legal-pot-sales-have-been-a-failure-in-canada-here-s-why/article_0a8ec71d-e95b-5854-9c8f-5ab7b58c5500.html Why do we have safe injection sites so people can do illegal drugs that they get from illegal drug dealers? Now we want to give them government controlled drugs? How does that help addicitons??
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yup...LOL Like I say in the card game. with my grand kids.....Go Fish.
