ExFlyer

Who ever thought "and needed explanation that "land" could vote??

Look, I have seen and have observed their behaviour. Call them drunks, alcoholics or whatever words you are choosing to use, they are the indigenous. They do not get kicked off the "rez" or out of the community for being drunk or taking drugs That is BS. I have not lived my life in "big cities". It is not only the big cities where this problem is, it is in their communities, on their "rez" in small towns and medium towns and all over. They have as many places to hide as any drunk or druggie. Yes, there are many many "white" drunks and they also get punished but, as I said, the majority in prisons are indigenous. Also I have many RCMP friends and acquaintances working in indigenous communities and around reservations. They see it all and it is a fact their alcohol and drug problem is endemic. No matter how hard you try to justify tor excuse heir behaviour and actions and activities, the fact is, it is them that are doing to themselves.

The unfortunate thing is that funding has been "invested" many times but the actual purchase never seems to come to fruition or, it is so far off in the future we forget about it when it does not happen. The ship business just F'n amazes me. Every nation in the owrld can get ships at sea in a few years. NCL cruise lines has a ship for 4000 passengers built in 18 months and we take 25 years ot get the hull in the water. I realize it is a warship but other countries can pump them out and we cannot...

I grew up and lived in BC during the end of Wacky's term and through his son and Vander Zalm....socialism to the utmost degree. Very very NDP LOL

The Scoial Credit party was certainly socialists. "Social credit is a distributive philosophy of political economy developed in the 1920s and 1930s by C. H. Douglas. Douglas attributed economic downturns to discrepancies between the cost of goods and the compensation of the workers who made them." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_credit The Bennetts were a hardware store owners in Kelowna BC. Social Credit basically collapsed in about 1996 when NDP came into the picture. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Columbia_Social_Credit_Party

LOL. The unfortunate thing is the defenders of indigenous behaviour will never get it. They are stuck on what happened 1, 2 or 3 hundred years ago and think we, todays Canadians ,are responsible for their massive and constant decent into their personal failure. The only ones that can change the public opinion of the indigenous is the indigenous themselves.

I hope they get what they are asking for. As for "don't expect too much to come out of it, Vets are not even on the List of concerns for Canadians,for decades...", well, it has been far longer than a decade. No Government has given a shit about our military and especially vets for 50+ years and probably more. In my memory, the only time Canadians had any empathy or sympathy for the Military was when we started losing members in Afghanistan....and that was short lived. 6 crew were killed in a Labrador rescue Helicopter crash in Eastern Quebec. Or the ones killed in a Labrador helicopter crash near Bella Coola. Or the 3 killed in a Cormorant rescue helicopter crash in Halifax. They all got one day news headline... and then forgotten.

Look, if you do not like my facts.....debunk them. Here is another fact....you cannot. I am not ashamed of my observations, why should I? I see what I see.. The drug and alcohol problems on "reserves" and communities is a pure self inflicted problem. The elected/elders/chiefs or whatever do nothing to prevent it. The ones that should be ashamed are the ones allowing such observations. Their reputation is self earned. As I have said, in my career, I have been to many indigenous communities and lived in several cities and with only a few exceptions, my observations are correct.

BC has been socialist from waaaay back in WAC Bennett days (1952 to 1972) and carried on by his son (1975 to 1986) and then BC became NDP. Why is anyone surprised?? LOL

What is offensive? Facts are facts. Go to any downtown slum areas and you will see the majority are indigenous. Look in our prisons... the majority are indigenous (and don't give me they are picking on indigenous BS).. A person is in jail because they broke laws and were convicted...with evidence. Drugs and alcohol in indigenous communities is brought i by the indigenous and used by the indigenous and distriubuted by the indigenous...even in dry communities. No one in the community does anything about it and thy do not help the RCMP. You are blind to reality.

Everyone can and does retain their own culture if they want. Millions of immigrants (and their offspring) do it every day in Canada. Besides, what "culture" do the indigenous retain, except for the dances they do for tourists? A culture of collecting welfare? Of sleeping on the streets? Of eating at free food places? Or Sleeping in shelters? Or being in prisons?

I have lived in several cities and most indigenous there are living in shelters or on the streets or in subsidized housing and do not work. This is my personal observation. I have worked with and lived with many other ethnic folks and found them very productive and appreciative of Canada. They are very proud to be Canadian and do what is nnecessary to not be a burden. They have a strong work ethic. Something that is not within the indigenous nature.

Unfortunately a down vote is the only way to show disagreement to the post. Perhaps there should be a thumbs down emoji. Have already stated and debated my objections...

First of all, most indigenous do not work so you would be doing a lot of hanging out LOL The Asians work, pay taxes and support our community, not take from it and give nothing back in return.

Face it Dude....they cannot get off the trough. Welfare society and until they become upstanding productive citizens, they will always be bums. They are what they have made of themselves , fully dependant on handouts. They have had 1, 2 3 hundred years to get over themselves.

And here ya go again...off on a tangent I dopnot have to agree with you and don't want to. As I said, Have a nice day ....or don't

Time to move on Herbie. The trials and tribulations that today indigenous suffer are of their own doing. The past is the past. They have been very much compensated. Canada has said sorry to them more often than to any other group and certainly given them more money and freebies than any other group in Canadian history.

keep on keeping on I was being nice and said "Have a nice day" Arguing/discussing/debating with you is pointless to me so, let your arrows fly LOL

Yes ,but I responded to you and your statements.

Have a nice day. LOL

Geez Michael...reform them to what and for what? Every government that get elected reforms something...they make new laws, they make new processes, they make new paths and procedures. Governments, our world, is in a constant state of reform. If you don't like something they just to cry reform it LOL

Reform what? If opposition had anything better, then present it. If oppisition has ideas, then show them. If whining is needed, then they do it well. I am not a big fan of Ford but, he does listen and to the dismay of many, he does tell it like it is. There is only so. much to go around and if those that get it do not spend it wisely or diligently, you cannot blame Ford.

I agree with Ford that the bike lanes and bike acceptance has gone too far. It is not just a war with cars but with businesses along those streets affected by bike lanes. Deliveries have to be made and trucks block what is left of the streets. Busses are inconvenienced and when they make stops now, they also impede traffic. An interesting observation, every time bike lanes are on the news, where they show the lanes with bikers on them, many times bikers are breaking the laws by not stopping at lights or intersections LOL As for politics.. well municipal allowing and enforcing bike lanes is as political too so...if Ford is getting involved, it has to be from the constituents.

"very often Conservatives make an incredible mess and then leave it for the Liberals to clean up, and then blame the Conservatives for the cleanup" It is the way of politics. Tit for tat, blame the other guy. Been that way since confederation. LOL

As you said "There's not much more point discussing this." As I said "Have a good day."