Hudson Jones

You can play your game all you want, Rue. Most people will not buy your dishonest attacks on anyone who criticizes Israel. It's not required for investigators to be at the sight when the criminality was taking place by Israel. In almost all cases, when it comes to these types of investigations, the same method is used. Physical evidence, interviews and testimonies. How do you think Nuremberg happened? You think the judges and the investigators witnessed the Nazi atrocities? Of course not. Can't wait for the Zionist criminals to go through the ICC as well. You want a joke investigation, take a load of this investigation (http://goo.gl/9bDcsg), done by Israel to do a "preemptive" strike on the UN report that came out a week after. One of the main people doing the report on behalf of Israel is Israel's favourite shill, colonel Richard Kemp from England. This guy has made millions flying around the world, selling the Zionist agenda.

You keep missing the memo; No one but Israel is crying about Israel being called a "Jewish State". Because no one is obligated to recognize Israel as a Jewish State. It's not in international law. Arafat accepted Israel as a State almost 30 years ago. What has Israel done in those 30 years? Steal more Palestinian land and to re-affirm that they will do what they can to not allow a Palestinian State to be formed. Israel and Zionism cannot be trusted to do the right and lawful thing. They need to be side stepped and the BDS movement is the only answer to that.

What a terrible response. First of all, many of the interviews were from people who went through the experience and survived to tell about it. So it's not "second hand heresay". This is how investigations are done. Detectives are not at the sight or scene during the criminal activity. They gather evidence after the fact. Which is exactly what has happened here by the expert group sent to Gaza. You can try to discredit the method because your team is looking like the criminals that they are, but it's not going to work. This is how investigations are done and accepted at all levels. - Look at the physical including satelite images, photos, videos - Bring in weapons' experts - Do interviews - Match testimony On top of that, a lot of the method this report has shown were confirmed by Israeli soldiers who had the strength and the morality to come clean. These are the soldiers who gave testimonies with Breaking the Silence (http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/). Anyone who is interested in getting a glimpse into the most moral army in the world (can you believe that you can still hear some Zionists use that?), I recommend reading this report (http://goo.gl/aaMIIx), past reports and the testimonies by Israeli soldiers from Breaking the Silence.

Warmongers were all the rage during the Bush era. Now they're not looked at with any respect. Not many, especially the American public, have the appetite for more useless wars on behalf of the warmongering neo-cons and their Zionist bankrollers. Screw Sheldon Adelson and et al.

How about we ask a guy who was in the middle of the Apartheid. Desmond Tutu, the noted civil rights leader who became the first black archbishop of Cape Town, compared Israel's treatment of the Palestinians to the apartheid regime that discriminated against blacks in his native South Africa. http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Desmond-Tutu-Israel-guilty-of-apartheid-in-treatment-of-Palestinians-344874

Rue is trying to muddy the water again. Notice he didn't talk about the reputation of the person leading the investigation. He also made false claims in regards to where the evidence and the information came from. That's the thing about Rue. He writes and writes and no one has the patience to read or respond to him. Therefore, this false claims he makes go unanswered. There is plenty of information in the report that shows that this report and investigation, headed by a reputable team of experts, is credible. Below is information on how the evidence was collected on the house bombings. The information is on pages 40 and 41 from the UN report. 112. The commission examined in detail 15 strikes on residential buildings in the Gaza Strip in which a total of 216 people were killed, including 115 children and 50 women. The commission conducted 37 interviews, reviewed confidential submissions from a variety of stakeholders, governmental and non-governmental, and consulted publicly available information. These include photos, satellite imagery and video materials. All available materials relating to each incident were reviewed by a military expert to determine the type of weapons most likely to have been used. The assessment included matching testimony of witnesses to a variety of indicators, such as photographs of injuries to persons, damage to buildings and surroundings, and remnants of weapons. 113. Homes and buildings destroyed as a result of the air-land operation into Shuja’iya, Khuza’a and Rafah (often due to tank or artillery shells) are discussed in the chapter on ground operations (V.A.3). The present chapter therefore focuses on those residential buildings that were struck by what appears to have been targeted air strikes. 114. By letter dated 10 February, the commission asked the Israeli authorities for information “on several general issues and…clarifying the factual circumstances of specific incidents”. The commission specifically inquired about 13 out of the 15 incidents examined in this chapter as well as the strikes on high rise buildings in late August 2014. Israel was asked to explain the specific contribution of each building to the military actions of the Palestinian armed groups and how its destruction represented a military advantage for the IDF; what were the ranks and combat functions of members of armed groups if they were the target of the attack; what precautionary measures, including warnings and the choice of weapons, were employed; what was the number of fatalities resulting from each of the incidents; and whether any investigations had been initiated in relation to these strikes. No response was received from the Government of Israel. Therefore, to the extent possible, the commission assessed materials that are in the public domain. In particular, Israel published information on 8 attacks on homes that were examined by the General Staff Mechanism for Fact-Finding Assessments (FFAM) and the Military Advocate General (MAG), 3 of which are discussed in the present chapter1. The MAG’s findings are referred to in the relevant sections of the text. That's just the tip of the iceberg. There is SO much information.

Are you some satirical character, trying to show how ridiculous and ugly Zionists can be?

Show me in their platform how the NDP will bring illiterates third world types with no education or job skills to Canada. You sound like the stereotype I just mentioned in my post. All talk and hot air but no facts.

There is no question whether or not taking down a building with civilians in it, even if you think there may be 'terrorists' in it is illegal under international law. That said, to counter the Zionist groupies who have come in here to muddy the water with their misinformation, it's important to acknowledge that the report has found that on many occasions, the IDF simply targeted civilians without any militants nearby. Oh and the IDF used civilians as human shields, even though we keep hearing them, falsely, accuse Hamas as using civilians as human shields.

Because they violate human rights and lie about it consistently.

Interesting that you say that, because the report has found that the IDF used Palestinians as human shields repeatedly. For example; They sent children into buildings to see if there were any booby traps. They put civilians in front of them, while moving around the neighbourhood. In previous Gaza attacks, they put Palestinians in front of their cars. Oh those slimy, hypocritical, lying sack of IDF's.

The xenophobes who are usually old and scared suburbans and those living in the rural areas will continue to support the conservatives. That's around 1/3 of the population. The Cons really know how to make them "move" with their terrorist-foreigners-tax scare campaigns. Oh and the campaign has already started. Just look at all the money the government has been throwing at the Canada Action Plan ads. Nice to see my tax dollar is funding Harper's campaign. I find faults in both the Liberals and NDP, but I really do hope that they create a coalition to push the Cons out of power. Harper is bad for Canada and bad for the world.

Being free range doesn't mean that the animal will not suffer when it's about to be slaughtered. What if those who want to eat dog meat are able to also get free range, non-hormone dog meat. Will you still be saying we should ban eating dog, while eating your bacon?

It's never OK to slaughter. But at least sometimes you can find justification in the law when killing combatants. However, shooting anything in sight, as Israel has done during its weapons testing (Link 1, Link 2) campaigns, is not only illegal as report after report has found, but it's also immoral. Most moral military in the world! Gotta love the blatant lies we keep hearing from the Hasbara. Families? Pffft! Gone!

Maybe they do. Dog meat legal, health inspector says It isn't illegal to sell and eat the meat of dogs and other canines, as long as it's been inspected, an Alberta health inspector says. On Monday, the skinned and gutted carcasses of four canines were found in the freezer of the Panda Garden restaurant. While it raised some eyebrows, the Capital Health Authority's Nelson Fok said it's legal. "To be available to serve in a restaurant and for the public, the meat has to be inspected," Fok said. "That would mean involving Alberta Agriculture or the federal inspectors to be at the site where the animal will be killed and gutted and making sure the animal does not have any disease that can be passed on to humans," he said.

It's legal to eat dog meat in Canada, which trumps your standard.

There is no "but.." or "if.." There is no clause or resolution in any international agreements saying that the Palestinians (or their militant groups) "must disarm" AND there is no agreement that Palestinians should "accept Israel as a Jewish State". This is a typical case of Red herring. You're playing the foot dragging game that the Zionists have been playing for decades. If you agree with their position, then you can't bring in "but" or "if". In conclusion, you don't accept EcoPeace's position because they have no "but" or "if" in their position. On the other hand, I fully accept their position, which is in line with international law.

Alliance for Middle East Peace and AllMep are the same. Eco Peace Friends of the Earth Middle East supports the following: EcoPeace supports the Palestinian call for UN recognition of a Palestinian state in the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as its capital, in peaceful coexistence with the State of Israel. This is in keeping with EcoPeace's longstanding position supporting a two-state solution in the spirit of the Arab Peace Initiative, including mutual recognition of Israeli and Palestinian rights to two separate states based on the 1967 borders. As far as Water Justice is concerned EcoPeace has developed its own Water Accord and is leading a campaign under the message that "Water Justice Cannot Wait" I'm assuming, since you support them, that you agree with their stance as well? Because if you do, we have reached a point of mutual agreement and we should go have a beer.

I have a hard time debating with people who try to paint the world and people into something simple in order to feed their bubble of ignorance and bigotry. Gay rights in Israel are being appropriated for propaganda value Using gay rights as a yardstick for a country’s human rights record makes it seem as if the Israeli occupation does not undermine democracy and human rights.

Which Arabs? Palestinians? Or all Arabs? And I have yet to see anyone here who support "The Arabs" and everything they do. Do you support international law and human rights?

No one is defending the Palestinian government's treatment of gays. You seem to be confused and think that people should stop criticizing Israel's decades long violations of Palestinians' rights, because they have a government who is intolerant towards the LGBT community.

Can you show some links on this? By the way: Israel surveils and blackmails gay Palestinians to make them informants I don't think anyone has ever said life is good for the LGBT community in the Occupied Territories, especially in Gaza. But their treatment of the LGBT does not justify the treatment of Palestinians by Israel. Your comment is just another red herring, trying to take away attention from Israel's violations of human rights.

Rue: Whatever similarities you want to draw, the truth is that the Israeli people continue to support and elect a government that engages in colonialism and severe human rights violations. You can muddy the water with twists, turns and semi-truths, but it's very clear that Israel is a criminal state in a very high degree and should not be supported by the West. Just like Apartheid South Africa, the Zionist government should be side-stepped as it's clear that they will not abandon their violations of human rights of the Palestinians, both in the Occupied Territories and to a lesser degree, inside Israel. The BDS movement is a powerful international movement that has the potential of causing significant damage to Israel. That`s if Israel and Israelis decide not to stop its criminal behaviour towards Palestinians.

The following article clearly shows two things: 1) The BDS movement has created a lot of anxiety in the Zionist community. The little meeting in Sin City smells of major panic. 2) Adelson (GOP super donor) and Saban (Dem super donor) acknowledge their huge influence over the U.S. government. Saban even throws threats such as: "for one thing, any company that chooses to boycott business in Israel, is gonna look at this case, and once we’re done, they’re gonna think twice whether they wanna take on Israel or not." “Adelson, Saban: ‘Anti-Semitic tsunami’ on the way Businessmen Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban warned Saturday night of an “anti-Israeli tsunami” and the growing strength of the BDS movement. Saban, the controlling shareholder of Partner Communications, said he would evaluate responses to Orange SA CEO Stephane Richard’s remarks last week about wanting to end the French company’s brand licensing deal with the Israeli carrier. … …“BDS and … all the other anti-Israel and anti-Semitic organizations are making a lot of headway on the campuses in the United States” and in industry, Adelson said. He said that Jewish organizations must cooperate to fight BDS, while admitting that “it’s a challenge to get Jewish groups to work together … it was the arguments between Jews that brought down the Temple.” Adelson and Saban were asked about Richard’s statement to the effect that he acted on business rather than political considerations. “It’s blatant lie,” Saban said. “Therefore, we’re gonna weigh all of our options, and one thing is for sure, this isn’t over. It’s the beginning, and for one thing, any company that chooses to boycott business in Israel, is gonna look at this case, and once we’re done, they’re gonna think twice whether they wanna take on Israel or not.” Asked if the protest in U.S. campuses is associated with the Israeli government’s policy, Saban said: I don’t want to get into what Israel’s policy is or is not. One thing is for sure: We do have an anti-Semitic tsunami that’s coming at us. “Maybe the Israeli audience is not aware of, that based on pure research, only 10 percent of Americans are anti-Semites. Just to be mathematically accurate, that’s 33 million people. So, we have to be aware of the fact that it our duty to put Israel’s right image forth to the people, so they see what the real Israel is.” Adelson added: “Today, there’s little or no sign that in … American society that anti-Semitism is even 10 percent, but I’m absolutely positive that there’s a lot of anti-Semitism on campus. Now, the people that are buying it, I don’t believe are intentionally bigots, but they’re buying the arguments that are only reacted to by the various groups that are here [at the summit] today.” Saban is one of the Democratic Party’s largest donors and fundraisers and is close to the Clintons. Asked about his own political differences with Adelson, Saban said, “When it comes to Israel, we are absolutely on the same page. Our interest is to take care of Israel’s interests in the U.S. … when it comes to [bDS] there is no light between us at all.” Adelson: “We can use our influence … with anybody we know in the administration and in Congress for the betterment of the relations between the U.S. and Israel.”” haaretz.com Power Ranger Haim “gonna” git you! Look, if that’s the way Saban threatens folks, I wonder if he talks to the Clintons this way. These guys are poison to democracy. Organized crime bosses.

Despite what some people in this thread have tried to tell us, the BDS movement has become the biggest worry for the Zionists. More and more people around the world, including in the Western countries are getting behind this powerful movement. Here is proof that the ZIonists are scared of BDS: Adelson to host secret anti-BDS fundraiser, strategy summit Conference reportedly being organized by top Jewish donors, including Hollywood entertainment mogul Haim Saban. Yet despite the growth in pro-Israel activism, pro-Palestinian-driven protests and resolutions have been on the rise. The past year has seen a record number of 15 universities adopt resolutions demanding divestiture of college funds from Israel. Company after company in Europe are pulling out of contracts with Israeli companies who do business in the illegal settlements. The latest one looks to be the French telecommunication company, Orange. Artists are cancelling their dates in Israel, the latest being Lauryn Hill. High profile people, such as Stephen Hawking have boycotted Israel for its treatment of Palestinians. Academic organizations both in Europe and in North America are also getting behind BDS. The BDS movement spread has been slower in North America, but it is happening and it's getting bigger. I think it has gone past the point of no return so the only thing these billionaire Zionists can do is to slow it down through their influence over politicians and through lobby groups at schools.