Hudson Jones

You smeared yourself when you wrote:

Are you talking about the 37K+ Hungarian refugees in the 50's that came to Canada? The 10,000 Czechoslovakian refugees in the 60's? The 7000 Chilean refugees, called "Marxist Gangsters" by rightwingers, in the early 70's? Or are you talking about the 50K+ vietnamese refugees who were let into Canada in the 70's-80's? Or hundreds of thousands of other refugees who have come into Canada?

What false claims? You're making things up again. Even if there was 1 arrest in 10 years, out of 750K people, it still proves the point that refugees are NOT a risk.

Oh and, why don't you correct yourself here? The Boston bombers were not refugees.

You're not making a point. You're just reaching at whatever you can to try to say you have a point. There was no conviction until 2015 and even if there was one conviction, it proves the point that refugees are HIGHLY UNLIKELY to engage in terrorism. Why don't you go pay attention to the epidemic of white American kids shooting up schools instead of reaching like you are now.

He was convicted in 2015. That's why he is not part of the statistics that go up to 2014.

The stats are up to 2014, since 2015 is not finished yet. To edit and update: Upon looking at the source article, there are 2 other refugees who were arrested in "aiding Al Quaeda" in Iraq. The original article mentioned "domestic terrorism", so I wanted to be clear on that. It still stands, the percentages and the chances of a refugee engaging in terrorism is very low. Another example is our own refugee intake in Canada. Have we ever had any refugees in Canada arrested on domestic terrorist charges? Of course not. Check your information. The Boston Bombers Were Not Refugees

I have a few problems with your analogy. 25,000 people are not a shitload of people. It's a drop in the bucket. Not only that, but there is a security system involved, where they are checked at three different levels before they are admitted into the country. The system is so good that CSIC and RCMP have come out in support of the security and background check. Also, to give you a better perspective, I am going to give you some real statistics and facts, instead of your scenario, which is based on questionable percentages: Of the 750,000 refugees admitted into the U.S. in the past 10+ years, none have been arrested on domestic terrorism charges. In Canada, there have been no refugees who were arrested on domestic terrorism charges. Blacks have a legitimate case against the KKK. In Canada, we're not all white people who are effected or have a fear of Muslim terrorism. So you're trying to push logical fallacy.

I don't see them as any different than the Westboro Baptist Church or KKK. What I see here is that you're used to those extremist groups and not to these Muslim extremist groups. Our rule of law trumps whatever beliefs they may have about our rules and laws.

War zone = Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen Where do most of these terrorists come from? Yeah. Way to try to explain and push the big elephant, called drones, out of the conversation. To put it into perspective; There have been more Muslim civilian casualties by drones than Western civilian casualties by terrorist attacks. Their results are the same: They kill, injure and terrorize people.

Canada has over 1 million Muslims living here. If there was any danger to Canada because of their faith, we would have experienced it by now. I don't think anyone would disagree that there are groups and people who have a warped interpretation of Islam. Where they are willing to engage in disgusting, barbaric acts like ISIL continues to display. What the disagreement is that you cannot label all Muslims to be the same. Just because one considers themselves Muslim, it does not mean that they engage in and agree with the most vile acts, by the most vile self declared Muslim groups. It's just idiotic to continue to paint all Muslims the same. It makes absolutely no sense to do that. Copying and pasting quotes from the Quran to somehow show evidence of what Muslims are like is also idiotic. MANY of the words in the Quran are copied from the old and new testament. The old and new testament have just as many stupid texts in them. They are all man-written.

Just a couple of days ago, a group of racist hateful lazy thinkers took it upon themselves to set fire to a mosque in Ontario. Today, a Muslim woman, on her way to pick up her kids from school, was jumped and beaten and told to go back to her country. In Quebec, someone posted a video declaring that one Arab a week will be killed. Simple people need the narrative to be made simple, so they can feel like they understand the situation. Their laziness prevents them from exploring who they are fearing. Usually they're too lazy and too conditioned to change their minds by looking at the facts, so they repeat the same misinformation that is fed to them. For these people, it's a lot easier when they can go into the "us vs them", "black vs white", and "Muslims vs West" mode rather than examining a complicated and multi-faceted situation. It's time for the quiet majority to speak out against these ignorant loud minority. The more we allow them to repeat their hate, the more it will become acceptable. The next time someone makes a racist or bigoted comment, call them on it. They need to be confronted.

How many times was Taliban driven out of cities and towns only to comeback and re-take it? Why are you looking at the situation without looking at the history of these types of conflicts?

Problem for the neighbouring countries, like Iran and Russia and the Arab countries.

We don't need to be cowboys. Huffing and puffing and feeling like victims who have been wronged. We need to examine why there is hostility. We are not the good guys. There are no good guys. First thing we need to accept is that our actions in the Middle East have allowed the ISIS infestation to become a reality. We need to not be involved in these adventures in the Middle East and Africa. If ISIS becomes a problem, the neighbouring countries will get involved. We also need to stop dealing with Saudi Arabia and sanction them for bankrolling ISIS, instead of selling weapons to them.

The truth.

The opposite is true. What have our adventures achieved besides increase terrorism? How about we learn from the few European countries who fight the urge to get involved.

Then you should take the several lessons from the past and not advocate more bombings. Just a thought: How many innocent people do you think die from the bombings we are doing in Iraq/Syria/Afghanistan and several other places where U.S. drones are dropping bombs on so-called terrorists? What have they accomplished besides killing innocent people and not only "not" stopping extremism, but increasing it.

You're angry and emotional. Instead, you should be logical. You should look at what these bombings have accomplished. They will only increase the chances of creating more hostility towards the West.

They will not be wiped out. Just like Taliban and Al Qaeda were not wiped out. That's besides the point. What happened in Paris, if ISIS was behind it, could have been done with or without ISIS being in Syria/Iraq. All they need to recruit is the internet and fuel to anger people. We need to get the f*ck out of the Middle East and Africa.

Instead, he will wrap himself up with his Winner blanket or his Dont-Cry-NeoCon blanket.

So what? They'll still be able to contact impressionable kids to build bombs in their homes. We need to learn from our mistakes and not keep making them. What did the adventure in Afghanistan bring? Did it end terrorism? If anything, our presence in those countries will only fuel the fire and increase the chances of more attacks.

If ISIS is involved in France, attacking Syria or Iraq is not going to reduce the chances of these types of attacks.

There was also a bombing in Lebanon just yesterday, which killed over 40 people. ISIS took responsibility for that.

Lol. Who is exploiting the holocaust? As of this week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has undertaken an even more blatantly mendacious attempt to exploit the Holocaust politically. In a speech to the World Zionist Congress, Netanyahu claimed that at the time of the meeting between Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem, on Nov. 28, 1941, the former was still in favor of expelling Jews and the latter opposed this because the expelled Jews would come to Palestine. Instead, according to Netanyahu’s version of history, the mufti urged Hitler to “burn” them, thus becoming the prime instigator of the Final Solution. The Netanyahu account of this meeting is an historical fabrication, or more simply a lie. Hitler had opted for the total and systematic killing of Jews on Soviet territory in mid-July 1941, and German killing units on the eastern front began targeting the entire Jewish population — including women, children, and the elderly — beginning in late July and early August. The two-day massacre of over 33,000 Jews at Babi Yar outside Kiev took place in late September. Hitler approved the extension of the mass murder program to Jews west of Soviet territory in late October, and two death camps using poison gas were under construction at Belzec and Chelmno by early November. When Hitler met with Husseini, the fateful shift in Nazi Jewish policy from expulsion and decimation to systematic and total mass murder had already occurred. ... There were many thousands of Holocaust perpetrators more historically significant than the grand mufti of Jerusalem, but for Netanyahu they have no useful political significance — which is to say they were not Palestinian. His extraordinary exaggeration of Husseini’s complicity, and by implication that of the entire Palestinian people, is a blatant attempt to stigmatize and delegitimize any sympathy or concern for Palestinian rights and statehood. Netanyahu’s shameful and indecent speech is a disservice to anyone — Jew and non-Jew — for whom research, teaching, and preservation of the historical truth of the Holocaust has value, meaning, and purpose.