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It's obvious lol.. there were a large number of people not ending up in hospital before the vaccine. Those same people wouldn't have ended up in the hospital even if they remained unvaccinated. Now you use those to make an argument that the vaccine works. It's faulty logic as the same demographic by and large WAS NOT ending up in hospital. Only now they can be used by the vaccine salesman to push a product. Why not recogize the obvious? Now, like the flu vaccine, there is probably a certain demographic that would benefit from the vaccine. By and large they are the elderly, and end up in the hospital multiple times per year anyway... these are the people who should take precautions, get vaccinated if they choose, etc.

Based on skewing statistics...

Your argument is all speculative.

I know the same for unvaccinated. What's your point?

Your side had to threaten people to try and cover for a failure of a vaccine. ?. Drive up the vaccination rate with people at no risk of hospitalization or death to say "see vaccine works" lol. Faulty logic.

What are you talking about?

The CDC sound like propagandists for big pharma. They do the same thing with the whole "disproportionate police violence" thing too. Sounds horrific until you realize that there's like 16 unarmed people killed by police in a population of 330,000,000 people in the country with likely thousands of police interactions per day. Manipulating statistics for an agenda.. nothing new.

?.. I don't know what you are doing but it's not statistical analysis. Yes let's count in the millions of people who were never at risk of covid death but forced to vaccinate in order to keep their jobs to show how successful the vaccine campaign was ?.. deception. Only thing you have

You are either failing to understand my point or trolling. Which is it?

?.. What in the world are you talking about?

You could just say "ya that's a fair point. To include a large number of vaccinated folks who wouldn't die regardless of vaccination status in a conversation about covid deaths isn't really relevant." I'm not exactly sure what your point is anyway.

?.. we also went a year and a half without the majority vaccinated. Can you believe some polls suggest lefties believe 1 in 2 die from covid ?

Probably 8x the number of people who wouldn't have died from covid anyway...

More like speculation. Truth is the vast majority who are fully vaxxed likely wouldn't die even if unvaxxed.

What in the world are you talking about?

Doubt it.

At least Putins police aren't running old ladies over with horses

Trudeau is a weaker version of putin but someone Trudeau aspires to be like

Real thinking as the survival rate was 99.6%

Most of whom wouldn't die even if they weren't vaccinated

How does it not? All those 5+ year olds who probably not die, vaccinated or not, are part of your argument of there being "8x number of vaccinated".

I'm sure they are just as appalled but Trudeau

Seems like they'd be leaving Putin's dictatorship and coming to Trudeau's. While I welcome any Ukrainians who wish to move here, they should be aware they cannot go against Supreme Leader Trudeau without having their bank frozen

You are ?. The vaxx saved a life that would've never been lost to begin with eh

It's total nonsense and dishonest to count the millions of people who very likely WOULD NOT have ever ended up in hospital or dead when comparing the numbers. You and I both know it's ridiculous. If you can explain why the under 40 with no comorbities and basically no risk of serious illness or death is relevant in the statistical analysis, I'm all ears.