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No. If I judge an action based on how it affects the wellbeing of someone, there are objective good and bad outcomes of that action. That’s not subjective at all.
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Do we have freewill ? Do yo decide your future ?
TreeBeard replied to arikel88's topic in Religion & Politics
If God knows you will choose ‘A’ then you cannot choose ‘B’. Why is that difficult to understand?- 78 replies
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You’re ignoring what God knows or you’re having difficulty with comprehension…. God knows that your choice will be ‘A’. If that’s the case, can you choose ‘B’?- 78 replies
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If you chose ‘B’ then God would be wrong! LOL- 78 replies
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So can you choose ‘B’ if God knows you will choose ‘A’?- 78 replies
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How do you choose ‘B’ if God knows you will choose ‘A’?- 78 replies
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Except you can’t actually point out the positive effect. Of course some laws (using your example) based on religion are positive. Some have severely set society back. But the good ones that were done for religious reasons could also have been done for secular reasons. And a lot of the bad ones would have had no justification from a secular standpoint. I can objectively judge the effect of a specific religious doctrine. Jazz doesn’t tell gay people that they can’t love each other. Jazz didn’t create laws that society needed to follow on fear of torture and death. Equating religion and jazz is a massive stretch.
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TreeBeard replied to arikel88's topic in Religion & Politics
So it’s nothing like the same as God’s knowledge. Yours is just an educated guess. Why the but? No one has said he doesn’t have free will because you can accurately guess what he will do. LOL In God’s case, if He knows your kid will choose to cut the grass because your kid wants to surprise you, then how could your kid ever choose to play games in that case? God KNOWS what he will do, therefore there is no other choice. How is that free will?- 78 replies
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What’s a moral action that is only available to a religious person that an atheist can’t do? Of course there are good and bad social change! Why do you think we can’t judge the changes? There’s nothing good in religion that can’t be done by secular people.
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TreeBeard replied to arikel88's topic in Religion & Politics
So your son cannot choose to cut the grass?- 78 replies
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Birth control? Didn't organized religion oppose birth control? I thought you agreed with someone in another thread that the decline of religion was causing moral decay in the West. Yet, without the rise of secular values, we wouldn’t have birth control as an option. You seem to have a very utopian view of what religion actually does in society.
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Isn’t there a difference between knowing and guessing? Can he choose to cut the grass and surprise you?- 78 replies
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You are ignoring the verses that. Condone murder and then saying the bible is against killing. Clearly it is not. Even if it’s “special circumstances” it still condones the murder of those babies and goats. LOL All I did was quote scripture. I’ve read them all, unlike most Christians. John was the excuse for many centuries of hate by Christians against the Jews by the way Jews were portrayed in the Book of John. I won’t if you won’t.
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You can’t judge your own gender? You need someone to do it for you?
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The Little Mermaid from Disney suddenly black.
TreeBeard replied to RedDog's topic in Sex and Gender Issues
Not that! In fact, make her green! A mermaid’s skin colour is more sacred to you than Jesus’! -
The Little Mermaid from Disney suddenly black.
TreeBeard replied to RedDog's topic in Sex and Gender Issues
And Jesus was turned into a white guy by Westerners. Not concerned about either, except one is about an actual person and the other is a MERMAID. -
The decline of Western democracies are a result of losing our moral high-ground. Losing the moral high-ground didn’t happen because of liberals. It happened because we don’t live up to the ideals we set. It started in Vietnam and continued in Iraq. If you don’t live by your own ethical standards, what have you got to oppose those who are even worse?
