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The Steele Dossier Was Russian Disinformation
BeaverFever replied to Shady's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
It’s useless arguing with fringe whackjobs on the internet especially ones whose lives are so empty they post on here 50 times a day which is why I don’t waste my time on here much anymore. I’ll just leave it with an excerpt from conservative columnist Max Boot: “Trump and his right-wing media chorus have been loudly proclaiming that the entire “Trump-Russia collusion narrative” was “phony” and that he was the victim of a “hoax” perpetrated by the Democrats, the media and the FBI. Nice try — but it won’t fly. The Steele dossier is a sideshow. Like many raw intelligence reports, it was full of uncorroborated information — a lot of which doesn’t check out. But the Steele dossier did not launch the FBI investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election, and discrediting it does not undermine the evidence that the Kremlin helped Trump win the election with his campaign’s eager encouragement and cooperation. You can debate whether this constituted “collusion,” a word with no legal definition. You can’t deny that there was extensive collaboration — at least not without resorting to bald-faced lies….There is much, more in the lengthy Senate report about Trump’s ties to Russia. All of it makes a mockery of efforts to claim that there was no collusion between the campaign and the Kremlin. Sorry, Republicans: The Steele dossier might be tarnished, but the evidence of collusion — or, if you prefer, collaboration — remains as damning as ever. There is a very good reason that Mueller documented multiple instances of obstruction of justice by Trump — offenses for which he should still be prosecuted. The former president had plenty to cover up.” -
Uh nope. A year later and you still have zero evidence and of the very small handful of fraudulent voters, most of them voted for Trump and none of them were ever counted in election results. Including a right wing election conspiracy poster-boy in Arizona who propagandist Tucker Carlson championed and who had claimed someone had voted for Biden under his dead wife’s name…now he’s pleading guilty to election fraud and admitting that HE voted under his dead wife’s name for Trump. Wow that’s actually the closest thing to the truth that you’ve ever said! The seeds of American demise were planted under Reagan, when they started teaching Americans that all billionaires and corporations should be worshipped without question, personal greed and extreme individualism are the only acceptable ideals, there is no such thing as “society” or the “common good” and all public services and public employees are evil and must be hated. The poisonous tree might have reached full bloom under Dubya but it had already been growing for decades bu then
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Lol I see nothing much has changed around here! More fake news from an obscure right wing propaganda site. Half the damn webpage is sleazy clickbait ads that probably infect your computer with malware. Half of all these nut job websites are all run by the same small handful of right wing nutjobs and the other half are run out of some godforsaken Russian-controlled shithole like Belarus or mother Russia herself Its been a year Trump the LOSER is not coming back Deal with it But don’t worry, I’m pretty sure America is a doomed country now regardless of who becomes president or which party takes power. The damage done to American society and democracy over the past several decades is very likely irreversible. The patient is terminal and even the world’s greatest doctors can’t save them now. All that’s left to do is just make the patient as comfortable as possible and allow them to die with as much dignity as possible. But the vile Republicans will ensure it will be a vulgar and grotesque and pain-filled death, as they drenching themselves and everyone else in their shit and piss. So be it
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Trudeau's hand-wringing, virtue signaling holiday
BeaverFever replied to Argus's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Is that what you see? I see liberal bigots who want to keep natives like dime store Indians, stuck in the past, doing quaint pow-wow dances for your amusement so you can toss pennies to them on your way past. The people on reserves have no meaning in their lives, no reason to live. No jobs or prospect of them. No way to improve or better themselves. And so they drink and do drugs, and get in fights while you sit back and merrily applaud. Every imaginable kind of person from all around the world comes to Canada and moves to the cities to live among us but somehow or other you liberal types think natives are some kind of deeply inferior creature that has to be kept isolated out in the woods and can never be integrated. Why is that? You have no idea what I want for First Nations people or what they want for themselves, all you have is racist tropes about savages who need to assimilate into European society in order to valued as human beings. Fortunately that way of thinking is becoming extinct. Speaking with of ignorance! You don’t even understand how your own country works. There are close to ZERO municipalities that can finance their own services. They receive the majority of their services and infrastructure funding from provinces and the provinces also receive transfers from the federal government. In addition, all sorts of provincial ministries exist to provide municipalities with expertise and make private contracts affordable through bulk purchases, essential services are provided regardless of how much or how little tax revenue they generate. You are clearly ignorant of what went on in those schools. The abuses were not “roughly the same”. Did white kids get put into low voltage electric chairs or pimped out to local pedophiles? How many white kids were forcibly removed from their families to attend such places and how many drowned or froze to death trying to escape with nobody even bothering to notify the family? You really should study the topic and not just regurgitate what racist family members tell you. Yes experiments. You see due to the high level of malnourishment in the residential schools, the federal government thought the kids would make excellent subjects for various nutritional research experiments. The First Nations nutrition experimentswere a series of experiments run in Canada by Department of Pensions and National Health (now Health Canada) in the 1940s and 1950s. The experiments were conducted on at least 1,300 Indigenous people across Canada, approximately 1000 of whom were children.[1] The deaths connected with the experiments have been described as part of Canada's genocide of Indigenous peoples.[2] LMAO WHAT??? Are you even Canadian? What are you some Russian internet troll? Do you not know we have a publicly funded healthcare system in this country? Seriously that is the stupidest thing I’ve heard in this forum in some time and that’s saying a lot. And the driving distance has nothing to do with anything on this point. Governments also invest in pipelines and all kinds of things. Investing on clean drinking water reduces disease and raises living standards which is a return on investment. Also government doesn’t only invest for monetary returns. Nobody is insisting they live anywhere and many FN communities are not so remote or isolated and in many cases it was the Canadian government who forcibly relocated them there to begin with. Enough of your ignorant Racist tropes about Drunken Lazy Indians. There are many living in reserves who do not fit your stereotype. -
Trudeau's hand-wringing, virtue signaling holiday
BeaverFever replied to Argus's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
There’s always going to be anti/indigenous racism in Canada like what we’re seeing in this thread but your time is finally up. Demanding First Nations prove they “deserve” basic human necessities like clean water that are given to white communities without question is racist, full stop. No white community would ever be denied clean water on the basis that they don’t “deserve” it The abuses, neglect and science experiments inflicted upon children on residential schools are well documented and a direct cause of of poor living and social conditions today, full stop Deliberately funding indigenous healthcare and childcare at lower rates than similar non-indigenous services is racist, full stop Deliberately withholding life-saving treatment from a hospitalized indigenous child and allowing him to die while we argue amongst ourselves over bureaucratic paperwork and who should pay for the treatment is racist, period The government has historically made nearly unlimited amounts of money available for giant pipelines that move oil long distances from the most remote parts of the continent while deciding there’s no money for a small pipeline to move a small amount of clean water a short distance to indigenous communities. That is racist full stop The list of horrors and unfair treatment that Canada has inflicted upon indigenous peoples is long and it is in the present not some distant past Luckily things are finally changing and the angry white hate-filled trolls are increasingly a rarity in society and reduced to posting anonymous internet rants -
LMAO WHATT?? Have you been asleep for the past 6 years? At least half of America has hated Trump since day 1 and that’s never changed Rallies are not “tells” of anything especially during a contagious disease pandemic where all public health advice around the world strongly discourages public gatherings. Trumps superspreader rallies are just one example of how he irresponsibly mismanaged the pandemic and got people sick and killed to serve his own ego. False. Many/most jurisdictions never had photo ID requirements. People who don’t drive or travel intentionally usually don’t have photo ID Its also a lie that they didn’t have to match signatures and your suggestions that they just “poured out of trucks” as if there weren’t strict controls and chain of custody procedures in place. Again it’s hilarious how you fire offso many hard-to-believe grandiose accusations the likes of which the world has never seen with little to no evidence…..but then when it comes to accusations of perfectly plausible garden variety corruption that happens in the world all the time, if it’s levelled against a Republican your demand for satisfying evidence is impossibly high so that it could never be met. It is definitely a lie and if someone wants to believe the Dems pulled off the greatest crime in modern history involving hundreds of thousands of conspirators but left zero evidence then go ahead but it just proves they’re a crackpot and a cult follower. Why not believe in leprechauns or lizard people why they’re at it? The undermining election confidence is exactly what Trump and his brainwashed followers are doing when they continue to promote these ridiculous lies. That’s a blatant lie and they didn’t find any “tens of millions thousands” of fraudulent or “probably fraudulent” ballots. Fiddle doesn’t even provide a link to back up his claim. Given that the audit was a Republican hack job to begin with, the GOP MO is “when lacking evidence, sew doubt”
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Omg your “levels of evidence” in either case is just more of your opposite of reality perception. For all you know Obama as the VIP just stood by the door while guests filed past for a photograph op. Thee whole idea that they were “chummy “ is an invention of your imagination. Trump amd Epstein only parted ways after Epstein’s misdeeds became known and they were still palling around whole Epstein trafficked Giuffre to Prince Andrew including going to a “pimps and hookers” themed party together with Epstein Maxwell and said Prince: https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7752543/amp/Donald-Trump-poses-Ghislaine-Maxwell-Heidi-Klums-hookers-pimps-themed-party.html Your whole MO on this forum is to stand in front of a mountain and pretend its an insignificant grain of sand when it comes to accusations against Republicans. And then when there are accusations against Democrats you stand behind the grain of sand and pretend it’s a mountain….if the grain of sand isn’t completely fabricated to begin with
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There you go lying and trying to change the subject Are you seriously trying to pretend that you and Trump aren’t claiming the 2020 election was stolen and that Trump was the real winner? Because that would be a pretty hilarious lie This is clear evidence that Trump blatantly lied to his sheep, he said the audit results that were just released stated that he won in Arizona when in fact the results said the exact opposite. That’s a blatant lie don’t change the subject
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You keep telling yourself that perhaps someday a same person will believe you. The fact that Trump went out of his way to praise and draw attention to Epstein’s “social life” and preference for “the younger side” and compare Epstein’s tastes to his own tells all I mean imagine if you were asked to provide a comment to a magazine about an acquaintance or co-worker and instead of talking about his work ethic or his professionalism or his family values or what a good friend he is, instead you decide your chosen comment for the world is going to be about his sex life especially his appetite for those “on the younger side”. That would suggest you know something particular about his sex life, wouldn’t it? I meant if you didn’t know much about his sex life why would that be the one topic you choose to be quoted on in a national magazine and specifically make the effort to mention their young age? As much as you want us to believe that’s just another coincidence I don’t think the non-brainwashed easily buy it.
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@WestCanMan @Infidel Dog @ironstone Trump caught blatantly lying about Arizona audit results So the Arizona audit lead by a bunch of Republican hacks bemt on “proving” fraud finally released its audited vote count and….THEY STILL COUNTED MORE VOTES FOR BIDEN. In fact, by their count, Biden score 99 more votes than was recorded in the election So what does Trump do? BLATANTLY LIE: Former President Donald Trump falsely claimed during a rally in Georgia on Saturday night that the results of the Arizona election "forensic audit" concluded that President Joe Biden lost in Maricopa County, despite the report stating that Biden won with 1,040,873 votes—99 more votes than shown in the certified ballots. "We won at the Arizona forensic audit yesterday at a level that you wouldn't believe," Trump told the crowd in Perry, Georgia. "They had headlines that Biden wins in Arizona, when they know it's not true. He didn't win in Arizona. He lost in Arizona based on the forensic audit." https://www.newsweek.com/trump-falsely-claims-arizona-audit-found-he-won-level-you-would-not-believe-1632756 Even you guys have to admit that’s a blatant lie
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No you’re wrong. Florida only JUST STARTED acquiring their own antibody supply, previously they were just distributing what the feds were giving them. And NOWHERE is it reported that antibodies are responsible for the decline. All waves decline that’s why they’re called waves. But Florida and the rest of the shithole res states suffered way worse than the rest of the country.
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More nonsense
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Yeah I’m sure he magically became a pedophile the day after he stopped hanging out with Tump Lol. The entire Giuffre-Epstein-Prince Andrew affair started BEFORE Trump gushed about how much he loved Epstein and his “social life” and their shared tastes in females “especially on the younger side” I bet that’s what Epstein said. You accidentally said the word “know” in the above quote when it should actually be “wish” As already established, Epstein’s misdeeds go way back beyond 2003 It’s hilarious that you draw this imaginary line to defend the reputation of your disgusting cult leader especially when you resort such ridiculously flimsy arguments to associate Obama with Farrakhan or Hillary with Russians She was Trumps buddy for many years and he recently “wished her well” Your Russian-colluding buddy had to pardon his own criminal associates and fire 2 AGs before he could find one who declined to prosecute him while still refusing to declare him innocent Just like the Republican lies about Saddams WMD 20 years ago, this one will eventually come to light and Republicans will once again suffer collective & selective amnesia Because Obama didn’t have anything to hide or cover up meanwhile Trump had some loose ends to tie up lol. Makes a lot more sens than your FBI 2 deep state crackpot conspiracy nonsense I've never said that "Bill Clinton did it", but leftist scum are the ones controlling all of the dirty cops. Even a leftist propagandist like yourself can't weasel out of admitting that Trump wasn't the one giving the orders to the sleaziest "law enforcement officials" in the US now. Im pretty sure that when it comes to protecting “dirty cops” that’s conservative bread-and/butter with all their current and historical resistance to any kind of police accountability. Bill Barr is definitely the one who gave the order to have Epstein arrested and and who controls the federal prison where criminal wrongdoing by guards resulted in Epstein’s death. End of story.
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Cuomos mismanagement and his other misdeeds were well-covered by the so-called “liberal media “ and his resignation was even celebrated by some liberal op-eds. Not that you would know from inside your bubble. And all of that pales in comparison to the epic Republican mismanagement that is occurring, especially considering that we a year and a half into the pandemic so there’s been plenty of time to learn from other peoples mistakes
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I already explained how misinformed you are and you just ignored the inconvenient truth as usual Those treatments he announced aren’t available yet….they were only just recently announced. Besides the deaths were sky high due to his mismanagement in the first place so trying to slow a massive death toll he caused doesn’t earn him a hero badge from me.
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Trump’s pedophile running buddy Epstein thinks of young girls as women ripe for the picking andI wager Trump does also given that he was known for his creepy lingering in the girls dressing room at his Miss America pageants. LOL Why would that date range matter? Epstein’s pedophilia goes back a lot earlier than that, back to when Trump was his best buddy and bragging about their shared sexual tastes and nightlife. Obviously when Trump’s criminal associates get busted and publicly outed he distances himself from them. LMAO your entire understanding of the world is nothing bit a convoluted mass of “go fish” suppositions. It’s hilarious how much denial and excuse-making is going on here. Trump amd Epstein were buddies for decades AT THE SAME TIME that Epstein was preying on young girls all over the world not just on his island. Trump went out of his way to talk about their shared social life and sexual tastes so he either participated in or knowingly turned a blind eye to Epstein’s crimes. To claim anything else would be admitting he is the most clueless person on earth. You are a tangled mess of selectively cherry-picked, distorted and embellished facts, and also promote fabricated or unproven claims that you falsely present as indisputable facts. As I’ve said many times one common feature of the righties I find on the internet is a complete inability to differentiate between fact and opinion and you’re a perfect example. Epstiens REPUBLICAN lawyers got him a sweetheart deal from REPUBLICAN prosecutors working for a REPUBLICAN president and whose fault is it? The FBI and Bill Clinton. Lol. Ghislaine Maxwell says Trump is on the tapes. Whether the FBI has them or not I don’t know What I do know is that Trump had Epstein snatched up and he quickly dies under criminal circumstances while in Trumps custody before he could talk. Which was very convenient for Trump. So obviously Bill Clinton did it lol.
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Yeah well it’s already been clearly established that you live in a right wing false reality where you can’t tell truth from fiction and believe all kinds of insane conspiracies about population control etc. So honestly your assessment of me or anything else while entertaining is pretty irrelevant
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As usual you have no idea what you’re talking about. It is a fact that Florida has been experiencing the worst death rate since the start of the pandemic which is inexcusable since we are a year and a half into this. Let me break it down for you since you clearly can’t grasp what’s going on: EVERYONE IS EXPERIENCING THE VARIANT WAVE - FLORIDA HAS NO EXCUSE. Its almost exclusively the right-wing jurisdictions in Canada and the US that are experiencing the worst death rates since the start of the pandemic Tou also seem to have completely missed that DeSantis, monoclonal antibodies announcement was only in the last few days and nothing new has been delivered yet. The very very recent decline in death rate is due to the natural wave which has claimed far more Floridians than it has in other states. Also isn’t it kinda funny that anti-vaxxers are eager for these monoclonal antibodies which are also made and sold by big pharma? What gives?
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Yeah they think of underage girls as “women” ripe for the picking just like the rest The claim that Epstein was banned comes from Trump himself and only surfaced AFTER Epstein’s misdeeds came to light. Trump and Epstein were close buddies for decades, you think Trump didn’t notice his sexual activities with those “on the younger side” despite going out of his way to specifically mention and praise it? You pretend Trump is such a all-knowing genius yet when it’s convenient you’re admitting Trump is a clueless idiot who was best friends with a pedophile for decades and had no idea. The reason you hate the FBI is the same reason you hate the media: they don’t serve the blatant lies and crimes of the Republican party. And so you invented half-baked implausible conspiracy theories to explain why reality doesn’t match your propaganda. But your stories are only believed by those who are already converted and are laughed off by the rest of society. They will never have more than a fringe cult following, you’ll never convince the majority to fall for your nonsense.
