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BeaverFever

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  1. These are all just right wing propaganda sites. Abridging someone’s idiotic ramblings to just the relevant portion, as the Jan 6 committee did for the treasonous Jimbos text falsely telling Pence that he can unilaterally declare the election null and void is not lying.
  2. Complete and total lie, Full stop. From another idiotic anti-vax and election BIG LIE conspiracy nut who can’t tell reality from his own uneducated fantasy world this whole post is just so rich. If only you had stayed in school instead of getting your information from Facebook memes created by Russian troll farms and other uneducated dummies.
  3. FACT: of the approx 700 or so Jan 6 traitors who have been charged over the past year, only around 50 or so of the have been sentenced, FACT: less than half of those 50 or who have been convicted were sentenced to prison FACT: prison time for those who plead guilty to non-violent offences were capped at a max of 6 months if there was any prison time at all. FACT: The harshest sentence handled down so far, which included assaulting and injuring police, was a little over 5 years but most of the few who were sent to prison had sentences between a few months and 3.5 years. Ashli Babbit was not a hero or a martyr and the only tragedy of her death was her tragic stupidity in falling for obviously false Trumps election lies. Believing him literally cost her her life. The Jan 6 traitors behind bars are not peaceful protesters or political prisoners they are violent insurrectionists trying to end nearly 2 and a half centuries of American democracy.
  4. Omg you’re just repeating year-old discredited claims that were laughed out of the Krakken krakkpot lawsuit hearings. There are legitimate out-of -state voters such as military and college students and various other people temporarily elsewhere such as temporary work assignment who mail their ballots back to their home state.
  5. Its literally impossible for a dropout to “school” anyone. Must be why you misspelled it lol. The relevant excerpt of Jordans text was quoted and as usual the Republicans are ty to distract from their treasonous plotting against US democracy.
  6. It’s only a disgrace now that Trumps left office though right? And discovering the origins of covid - which scientists are still investigating- doesn’t stop covid from killing people. You know what does? Vaccination, masking and distancing measures, something Republicans undermine at every turn.
  7. For the hundreth time stop trying to compare Trumps election lies and coup attempt with then usual objections politicians for BOTH parties have occasionally raised over the years. They’re not even close amd anyone looking at the facts honestly can see the difference. As I said before there’s a difference between: 1) an athlete who criticizes and disagrees with a referees call but accepts that’s how the game goes sometimes and concedes defeat and 2) an athlete who baselessly and without any evidence accuses the referee, the league officials and half the members of his own team of being corrupt and secretly participating in vast and far-reaching conspiracy with all the world’s most hated villains to rig the entire sport against him and them incites a group of his die-hard fans to riot, simply because he didn’t win the game. You can’t pretend they’re even remotely the same. I bet it never occurred to any of you that Al Gore was the VP at the time of the Bush victory and never claimed to have secret VP powers that would allow him to unilaterally declare himself the election winner. He did his job and ratified the election of Dubya even though the Dems greatly disagreed with the Republican majority Supreme Court decision that ruled Dubyas brother Jeb was entitled to legally rig the recount in his brothers favour. Gore rightly took his case through the due process channels and was successful enough to go all the way to the Supreme Court and lost his on a split decision that was split right down party lines that is still controversial today. It’s since been estancia that if the entire state of Florida had been recounted instead of just the districts hand-picked by Jebs staff, Gore would have been president. And yet when the Supreme Court ruled for the Bushes, Gore conceded and them ratified the results. There’s no qay you can compare that to Trumps coup attempt.
  8. So you have no rebuttal to getting absolutely dismantled yet again for your bs claims. So you do your usual “something something therefore you’re a liar” mumbo jumbo routine and give yourself a hi-five Shocker.
  9. AHAHAHAH. “Cite the statute that makes it illegal” You crack me up Thats not how constitutions work, stupid Once again we find something you would have learned If you hadn’t dropped out of high school Powers of office and the means of election are prescribed. You don’t just get to make up random shit on the spot and say “well it doesn’t specifically say I can’t do it”. How fucking stupid does a person have to be to believe the US constitution with all its complicated checks and balances allows the vice president, at his sole personal discretion, to simply set aside the results of an election ratified by the states and simply declare himself the winner ?? “WELL AH RECKON IT DON’T SAY HE CANT HYUK HYUK” Jordans claims were not “well thought out” and they have no basis in any law, which is why it was ignored. All the House did was cut out the irrelevant and vague reference that supposedly gave his scam legitimacy but doesn’t.
  10. Judging by your comments on another thread, apparently all Biden needs to do is send a tweet saying “stay peaceful” and you’ll be in awe of his bold and decisive action, right? ?
  11. Ann coulter is toxic crackpot and her words have been poisonous garbage for decades. The Republicans didn’t simply “question the results of the election” they tried to overturn the results with baseless lies and frivolous lawsuits where they had no evidence and they knew it. They didn’t simply explore “every legal option” They blatantly tried to pressure officials from Mike Pence all the way down to state election officials to abuse the power of their office and award him votes under false or pretences. Part of that pressure involved sending an angry mob to the Capitol to try and scare congressmen into not ratifying the election. I’m sure Trump and his staff didn’t expect the mob would actually breach the building but of course he and his goons are stupid and short-sighted enough to have not expected the completely predictable outcome
  12. Funny how you draw a clear distinction between peaceful trup protesters and Capitol rioters but you’re totally incapable of distinguishing between peaceful BLM protesters and rioters. And now your new idiocy is to try and pretend Trumps tweeting that ENCOURAGED the rioters is taking bold action. If Trump had tweet harshest condemnations of the violence the world had ever seen it would still not count as taking action BECAUSE ITS A FUCKING TWEET FOR CHRISTS SAKE. Especially considering that own people were imploring him to make a live public appeal. Encouraging the rioters with his lies then adding the words “stay peaceful” doesn’t count as doing anything but promoting this treasonous act.
  13. Lol what a nothing response. Why did you even bother to post anything? Keep fooling yourself that hiding during a crisis and sending mildly worded tweets that also egg on the chaos while your own people are calling for you to do something is anything other than how it sounds.
  14. LMAO wow 6 posts aimed at me I really got you triggered! I get it this is a tough time of year for you, all alone during the holidays and such but chill out man. Don’t let the political views of complete a stranger on the internet get under your skin like that. It’s not healthy. Your whole idiotic argument is that because many BLM rioters remain unidentified and eluded justice, authorities should purposely not go after any easily identifiable Capitol rioters in order to be “even “ Or some idiotic argument like that Maybe if the Trump-tarrds hadn’t been so stupid as to tale selfies of themselves and their fellow insurrectionists and brag all over social media, they would have escaped justice too Many of the BLM rioters who were caught receved harsh penalties so far we haven’t seen to many harsh penalties from the Capitol coup attempt Lastly. Trump played a direct role in organizing the rally and then inciting the mob to riot and tweeting encouraging sentiments as the riot was unfolding. Obama neither organized nor spoke at any BLM riots nor egged them on…..simply being a black man who dares to admit systemic racism is real doesn’t make him responsible And Obama condemned the violence he didn’t just tweet “stay peaceful” while egging them on like Trump did As for your line-line takedown you seem to be desperate to just find whatever disagreement you can and you’ve totally forgotten the whole point of discussing BLM vs Capitol riot: The Republican lie is their claim that BLM rioters were given light punishments while Capitol rioters were given harsh punishments. Instead you’re responding to the article justifying all the examples of harsh BLM sentences and light Capitol sentences. Maybe they are justified bit it’s still disproves the Republican lie. And then your rebuttals to other parts of that story really just boils down to “I don’t like what I’m reading so I’m just going to say it’s a lie” Meanwhile you lie that Dems “cheered” the BLM riots, and that the AP didn’t cover it. You’re so desperate. Try not to get too triggered over my posts. Stay safe over the holidays and please call a crisis line if you start to feel too lonely or distressed
  15. As already stated send out a couple of tweets doesn’t count as taking action or doing something. Responding by Tweeting is pretty much the definition of doing nothing and if you weren’t such a gullible brainwashed little worshiper of that idiotic failed ex-president you wouldn’t be trying to claim otherwise. He also tweeted messages And his weak tweets didn’t even condemn the rioting, in fact he egged them on by repeating his lies and his accusations against pence. Its also a lie that Obama never tweeted anything during the BLM riots Just like you lied about the supposed George Floyd bodycam footage that completely exonerated the now-convicted murdeer cop. But this is a red herring argument because we’ve already established that simply tweeting about something is not a response
  16. Not false at all. 1:10 pm to 4:17 pm when he released a recording condemning the violence is 187 minutes. The tweets he sent in between with vague references to “staying peaceful” without actually acknowledging much less condemning the violence and security breach don’t count as “taking action”. Especially since many of those tweets fanned the flames and validated the rioters sense of outrage by repeating his election lies and denouncements of mike pence, even after he was informed that the Capitol was breached and Pence had been placed in protection and removed from the chamber Even his final recording video told the rioters “e love you, you’re very special” and neither acknowledged nor condemned the violence. Simply saying “go home now” doesn’t count either.
  17. You’re just totally making up the part about it being “a little corner”. How many of them would it take to lynch an elderly man anyway? How many murderous extremists in your ranks is a non-significant number? Even if 75% of the rioters were non-violent protesters and 25% were terrorists bent on murder, does that make it ok in Fiddle excuse land? The anti-Trump protests weren’t trying to storm the Capitol, overthow the government or overturn the results of the election They were just protests in the street False equivalence, once again
  18. Authorities Harder On George Floyd Protesters Than Jan. 6 Rioters: Report Republicans claim the Justice Department is treating alleged insurrectionists harshly because of their political views, but court records tell a different story. 08/30/2021 05:17pm EDT An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal cases stemming from the protestssparked by George Floyd’s death last year shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison. The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/insurrectionists-have-easier-george-floyd-protesters_n_612d47a4e4b01d0862f3ffa9 Utah BLM protesters could get life in prison for splashing paint Some Black Lives Matter protesters in Salt Lake City could face up to life in prison if they are convicted of splashing red paint and smashing windows during a protest. The potential punishment stands out among demonstrators arrested around the country and critics say it does not fit the alleged crime. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/07/utah-black-lives-matter-protesters-life-prison-paint AP tally: Arrests at widespread US protests hit 10,000 PHOENIX (AP) — More than 10,000 people have been arrested in protests decrying racism and police brutality in the wake of George Floyd’s death, according to an Associated Press tally of known arrests across the U.S. The count has grown by the hundreds each day as protesters spilled into the streets and encountered a heavy police presence and curfews that give law enforcement stepped-up arrest powers. https://apnews.com/article/american-protests-us-news-arrests-minnesota-burglary-bb2404f9b13c8b53b94c73f818f6a0b7
  19. No lies my post is 100% correct, not that you would know. Police don’t shoot people to prevent property damage. That said , at least 9 BLM protesters were killed in 2020, one of them was shot by a cop and the rest by right wing counter-protesters like Rittenhouse. Meanwhile the right’s new Martyr, St Babbit tried to breach the Senate Chamber door where the Senators were still being evacuated The Capitol Poiilce had no more room to fall back and would-be victims to protect Babbit ignored warnings and guns pointed at her Republican Representative Markwayne Mullin, a witness to Babbit's attempted breach, said that the Capitol Police "didn't have a choice" but to shoot, and that this action "saved people's lives"
  20. Beaverworld aka reality. Ones again you’re so out of touch in your propaganda bubble. There is ample footage of the mob chanting “hang mike pence” as they stormed the Capitol And of course many had zip ties with them and many said out loud that they we’re going to kill Pelosi or AOC or whoever
  21. No nothing about what he recommended was 100% legal and constitutional” which is why Pence and state Republican officials didn’t go for it. Just more made up shit in the Trumptard school of dummies educating dummies. And you missed the point that Jimbo admitted his quotes were real. …you set up this thread claiming they were fake did you not?
  22. It was an uncoordinated attempt at a coup…as far as we know . Small difference The mark Meadows PowerPoint shows they were planning many coordinated attempts through political channels rather than mob violence…including trying to convince pence of the lie that there’s a super-secret clause in the constitution that as VP he can just name himself and Trump to be the winner of the election at his discretion….all of which failed to materialize…
  23. There’s no other way to describe mob trying to kidnap/assassinate the VP and members of Congress, and prevent the results of the election from being realized. I get it, you people think Trump would be a great leader. The greatest ever. You think he would make life in America so great that nobody would care that he’s a dictator who seized power in a coup, people would just consider that an irrelevant technicality. There were many Europeans who thought like that in first half of the 20th Century
  24. False equivalency and false facts. The attack on the Capitol was an attempt to and American democracy. The mob wanted to kill or kidnap the VP and members of Congress and prevent the peaceful Democratic transition of government. And the police presence at the Capitol that day was no where near as heavy handed as it was at BLM protests. Many BLM rioters were convicted of serious crimes and many of those were sentenced to multiple years of jail time …more so than the Trump coup attempt plotters.
  25. And yet back in the real world: Jim Jordan admits texting Meadows encouraging Pence to throw out some electoral college votes Congressman’s admission comes after text was released to Jan 6 committee by former White House chief of staff John Bowden1 day ago Ohio congressman Jim Jordanconfirmed on Wednesday that he was the author of a text message to White House chief of staff Mark Meadows on 5 January that outlined an argument in favour of Vice President Mike Penceinterfering in the election certification process. The message, which described Mr Pence’s supposed ability to unilaterally reject Electoral College votes from states where the Trump campaign had falsely alleged widespread voter fraud, was sent just hours before rioters inspired by those false claims would storm the Capitol in an attempt to halt the process. Mr Jordan’s office told Politico on Wednesday afternoon that “Mr Jordan forwarded the text to Mr Meadows, and Mr Meadows certainly knew it was a forward." … The Federalist, a pro-Trump blog, argued separately in an article that Mr Schiff had falsely characterised the words as coming from Mr Jordan himself, whereas they actually were authored by Joseph Schmitz, former Pentagon inspector general, for an upcoming opinion piece. In the full text message, viewed by The Independent, it isn’t made clear that Mr Jordan is quoting another source, and Mr Schmitz’s name is not mentioned. …The full text of Mr Schmitz’s remarks forwarded by Mr Jordan, obtained by The Independent, still point to a desire by Republicans for Mr Pence to interfere with the process, regardless of who authored them initially. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jim-jordan-meadows-pence-text-b1976988.html?amp
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