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Anti-Vaxxers Are Now Gargling Iodine to Prevent Covid-19 One ER doc’s response to the new trend: “Fuck me! Of course they are” https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/betadine-anti-vaxxer-covid-treatment-iodine-1225438/

Nothing stupid or lying about it. This Trump criminal was digging up dirt on Biden at the behest of the Trump administration and Trump was disseminating it. Of course the presidents try to avoid meeting these people directly it’s hilarious you’d think otherwise. Especially considering the absurd lengths you try to go to to connect Hillary to Russians she’s never met or knew existed HEY DUMBASS THIS CRIMINAL AND HIS CRIMINAL BUDDY ALSO MET DIRECTLY WITH TRUMP Take her out': Recording appears to capture Trump at private dinner saying he wants Ukraine ambassador fired Trump apparently heard discussing firing Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch. A recording obtained by ABC News appears to capture President Donald Trump telling associates he wanted the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired while speaking at a small gathering that included Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman -- two former business associates of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani who have since been indicted in New York. ….On the recording, it appears the two Giuliani associates are telling Trump that the U.S. ambassador has been bad-mouthing him, which leads directly to the apparent remarks by the president. The recording was made by Fruman, according to sources familiar with the tape. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/recording-appears-capture-trump-private-dinner-ukraine-ambassador/story%3fid=68506437 SO YEAH TRUMP CRIMINAL ASSOCIATE IS 100% ACCURATE AND YOU’RE IGNORANT OF THE FACTS AS USUAL HERE IS TRUMP POSING WOTH HOS RUSSIAN AGENT CRIMINAL ASSOCIATES Trumps administration was fed disinformation by Russians which they fell for like suckers. If the information is so credible why didn’t Trump act to have the Bidens arrested. You hilariously claim Trump is some kind of almighty God who keeps terrorists and Iran and China in their place shaking in then boots but yet he can’t even arrest Hunter Biden or Hillary or any Democrats for their supposedly obvious and indisputable crimes ??? Pathetic. Either all these supposed Democrat crimes are just Republican lies or Trump and Republican congressmen are the most impotent limp-dicks ever who can’t even catch these supposedly obvious criminals blatantly and undeniably committing crimes in broad daylight. It wasn’t patriotism dummy it was a love by the White House against Russia. Biden joined Burisma two months AFTER the criminal investigation was opened and none of the Trump accusations have been substantiated. Giuliani claims he has a computer that proves everything bu nobody is allowed to see it ….more “secret evidence” claims just like their BS election fraud lies. Don’t you ever get tired of being played like a sucker? Like I said if that was the case how come Trump never arrested anyone? How come nobody is allowed to see this secret evidence that allegedly exists? How come so many of the sources against the Bidens including the Ukrainian prosecutor Biden got rid of are Russian proxies?

Wrong again. He was a Giuliani associate at the time of his crimes, which makes him a Trump associate. You even admit he was providing the Trump administration with info on Hunter Biden so how is he not a Trump associate? He made illegal donations directly to Trump and his inauguration celebration and worked on behalf of Trump administration to dig up dirt on Biden which Trump then spread. He and Trump both had the same personal lawyer (Giuliani). He is also a criminal. Your claim that he’s someone from Giulianis distant past is false. This criminal had dealings with Giuliani while Giuliani was working for Trump and those dealings directly served the Trump agenda ie the Hunter Biden nonsense. Therefore he is yet another Trump criminal Yes Hunter Biden got the Burisma job because he was the son of the US VP. Russia and the west have been waging a proxy Cold War over Ukraine which is split between pro-west and pro-Russian factions. Both sides trying to fill posts in Ukrainian government and public institutions with loyalists. Placing the American VPs son on the board of the Ukrainian utility giant was a means to keep it from falling into the hands of Russia and its pro-Kremlin Ukrainian proxies. Like everything else the Hunter Biden nonsense is yet another grandiose conspiracy theory that Republicans can’t prove to anyone but “just know to be true” because they read it on the internet, which is never wrong.

It’s being hidden from the public but somehow you know the secret truth, based on memes and posts from unknown sources circulating on facebook?

The media is telling the true story and adverse reactions have been thoroughly reported in the media But as usual the actual facts are not the story that Republicans want to hear so instead you resort to conspiracy theories and claim the “truth” is the tripe from dubious and unknown sources that circulates in social media and right-wing blogs and chat rooms.

Those death tolls don’t sound like letting people live

That definitely seems to be the anti-vax philosophy

I don’t see where you’re getting that conclusion from the statistics in question

The young and healthy people dying from COVID outnumber those dying from vaccine complications.

Ahaha So the real conspiracy is to depopulate the planet for some bizarre reason that makes absolutely no sense? And now that millions of people-the majority of the population - have gotten the shot we’re all going to die off in some mass extinction event? Hoe long do we all hav to live before we get to tell you you’re wrong?

When you look at who is in power: political leaders, CEOs etc you see thats is mostly still white males and everyone else including Asian Americans are underrepresented They get pigeon-holed as math or tech nerds but rarely selected for senior leadership roles.

More conservative paradise news COVID outbreaks in three rural Texas communities force school districts to close their doors Just days into the school year, three rural Texas school districts in West and East Texas shutter campuses because of COVID-19 outbreaks among staff and students. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/2021/08/16/covid-outbreaks-in-three-rural-texas-communities-force-school-districts-to-close-their-doors/ Texas attorney general sues schools for requiring masks The Republican attorney general says school districts cannot require masks even as Covid-19 outbreaks have forced dozens of them to stop in-person classes. CAMERON LANGFORD / September 10, 2021 https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.courthousenews.com/texas-attorney-general-sues-schools-for-requiring-masks/amp/ Texas pediatric COVID hospitalizations hit record high over the weekend Julian Gill , Rebecca Carballo , Staff writer Updated: Sep. 8, 2021 8:15 a.m. Comments The number of Texas children hospitalized with COVID-19 hit an all-time high over the weekend, with 345 on Saturday and 307 on Sunday, the highest two-day stretch recorded during the pandemic, according to data from the Texas Department of State Health Services. The data follows a national trend of rising pediatric COVID hospitalization rates. A study from the Centers for Disease Control and Preventionreleased Friday shows the highest rate of increase among teenagers and children 0-4 years old. The study, which tracked cases from March to mid-August, also found unvaccinated adolescents were 10 times more likely to need hospitalization than their vaccinated peers. https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/Texas-pediatric-COVID-hospitalizations-hit-record-16439169.php Alabama COVID-19 hospitalizations at plateau, ICUs in crisis MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Alabama’s rapid rise in the number of people hospitalized with COVID-19 appears to have stabilized, yet the state still faces the “real crisis” of an overwhelming number of patients needing intensive care, nearly all of whom aren’t vaccinated, the chief health officer said Friday. ….. Still, unvaccinated people sick with COVID-19 and a relatively small number of vaccinated people who contracted the illness continue to need more intensive care beds than the state has, he said. Patients who normally would be treated in ICU wards are instead being cared for in emergency rooms, normal beds or even gurneys left in hallways, he said. “We continue to have a real crisis in Alabama with our ICU bed capacity,” Harris said. “Yesterday there were about 60 or so more patients requiring ICU care than we have ICU beds in the state.” https://apnews.com/article/health-alabama-pandemics-public-health-coronavirus-pandemic-7399d1370e3af08392f3b7b6493259d7 Hospitals in crisis in least vaccinated state: Mississippi JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — As patients stream into Mississippi hospitals one after another, doctors and nurses have become all too accustomed to the rampant denial and misinformation about COVID-19 in the nation’s least vaccinated state. People in denial about the severity of their own illness or the virus itself, with visitors frequently trying to enter hospitals without masks. The painful look of recognition on patients’ faces when they realize they made a mistake not getting vaccinated. The constant misinformation about the coronavirus that they discuss with medical staff. “There’s no point in being judgmental in that situation. There’s no point in telling them, ‘You should have gotten the vaccine or you wouldn’t be here,’” said Dr. Risa Moriarity, executive vice chair of the University of Mississippi Medical Center’s emergency department. “We don’t do that. We try not to preach and lecture them. Some of them are so sick they can barely even speak to us.” Mississippi’s low vaccinated rate, with about 38% of the state’s 3 million people fully inoculated against COVID-19, is driving a surge in cases and hospitalizations that is overwhelming medical workers. The workers are angry and exhausted over both the workload and refusal by residents to embrace the vaccine. Physicians at the University of Mississippi Medical Center, the only level one trauma center in all of Mississippi, are caring for the sickest patients in the state. The emergency room and intensive care unit are beyond capacity, almost all with COVID patients. Moriarity said it’s like a “logjam” with beds in hallways, patients being treated in triage rooms. Paramedics are delayed in responding to new calls because they have to wait with patients who need care. https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-pandemic-cbc4d9aa87d4f74991f9bea959bf0939 7th Mississippi child dies of COVID, eight pregnant women lose lives to virus in a month Mississippi health officials have reported a seventh child, under age 1, is dead due to complications from COVID-19 and eight pregnant women in the state have lost their lives to the coronavirus since Aug. 1. All eight expecting mothers were unvaccinated, Mississippi State Health Officer Thomas Dobbs said, adding that COVID-19 is particularly dangerous and problematic for pregnant women and can be potentially deadly for the fetus. Some of the women's babies were born premature and are alive, Dobbs said, but did not specify a number. Officials are still investigating the cases. https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2021/09/08/mississippi-reports-7th-pediatric-covid-19-death/5768481001/ Hey on that last one, we all know Republicans consider pregnant women as disposable non-humans(eg Texas Abortion ban) just like people over 65 and people with even minor health conditions.

No you are the source of the misinformation. The article quite clearly states that it is unknown when the staff members contracted covid and even if it was before the start of the school year it’s irrelevant. Are you under the impression that COVID can’t be transmitted after the school bell rings? The point is that COVID is actively killing and circulating amongst school staff thanks to Republican incompetence and now school has started. Your “freedom” argument fails because it’s like saying people should be free to drive drunk All freedoms have reasonable limits and school kids under 12 can’t get vaccinated and tue vaccine isn’t 100% effective so when some anti-mask/anti-vax coughs his COVID virus all over my kids and somebody in my circle ends up in the hospital damn right I’ll hold him responsible Im not saying that people should be forced to get vaccinated but if they CHOOSE not to then they should accept that they are trading off some of their privileges and conveniences. Why should the rest of us be the ones who have to sacrifice our conveniences to accommodate them? I thought conservatives were opposed to catering to minorities, anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers are a minority.

Meanwhile back in the real world, @WestCanMan and the rest of the Trump worshippers are probably blissfully unaware that YET ANOTHER Russia-connected Trump associate is convicted of election-related crimes It’s hard to keep count of all the Trump criminals we really need a scorecard In summary: -Belarusian national and client of Giuliani whose Ukrainian partner was already convicted of similar and related crimes -Illegally donated hundreds of thousands to Trump campaign - Illegally donated $1million and lobbied various politicians on behalf of a Russian national attempting to obtain a marijuana distinction license - Was a source for Trumps BS Hunter Biden Ukraine claims Former Giuliani associate Igor Fruman pleads guilty in campaign finance case https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/igor-fruman-ex-associate-giuliani-says-he-will-plead-guilty-2021-09-10/

Meanwhile in Republican paradise we see what no restrictions gets you: In Parts Of The U.S., Delta Covid-19 Surge Is Forcing Hospitals To Ration ICU Beds When Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH) tweeted on Tuesday, September 7th, that “Real America is done with Covid-19” it raises the question whether the Congressman is even aware that the 7-day average of daily Covid-19 deaths is approaching 1,500 (real Americans, by the way), and approximately 100,000 Covid-19 patients are hospitalized nationwide. The Delta surge of Covid-19 is forcing hospitals in parts of the U.S. to plan for or implement rationing of intensive care unit (ICU) beds. On September 6th, Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease, said that as hospitals in a number of states fill up with Covid-19 patients, doctors will have to make “tough choices” regarding who will get an ICU bed. In a growing number of states, doctors and hospital administrators are already making these hard decisions. And not just in the South; also in states like Idaho. Idaho public health officials have enacted what they call “crisis standards of care,” as the latest Covid-19 surge overwhelms hospitals, particularly in the Northern part of the state. State officials have warned that some patients there may not be able to get needed care. The state’s crisis standards of care guidelines stipulate that those deemed in most need of care and most likely to benefit are placed on priority lists for scarce resources, such as ICU beds. This means that if a patient requires ICU care, someone else may have to be removed from a ventilator to make room. What this implies is that these hospital decision-makers and physicians will be placed in the uncomfortable role of being the ones rationing care, effectively granting death sentences to some. Not every Covid-19 patient can be helped, and this will also include non-Covid-19 patients as lack of ICU space applies to them as well. The problem of hospitals bumping up against capacity constraints certainly isn’t limited to Idaho. In at least six states - Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas - more than 90% of ICU beds are occupied. In some states, such as West Virginia, several hospitals have no ICU beds available. Neighboring states, including Kentucky, have declared crises are imminent. Kentucky’s Governor Beshear asserted that the state’s “situation is dire.” Even Hawaii, a highly vaccinated state, is preparing for possible rationing action as the Delta wave intensifies. Last week, Governor Ige signed an executive order releasing hospitals and healthcare workers from liability if they must ration healthcare.…. https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2021/09/07/delta-surge-of-covid-19-is-forcing-hospitals-to-ration-icu-beds-in-parts-of-the-us/?sh=751c56a15841 Florida school district calls emergency meeting after 5,500+ students forced to quarantine over COVID-19 outbreak More than 5,500 students at a school district in Central Florida are being forced to quarantine due to an outbreak of COVID-19, prompting the school board to announce Monday that it is holding an emergency meeting to discuss "mandatory face coverings." The outbreak at Hillsborough County Public Schools in Tampa comes less than a week after students returned to in-person learning there. As of Monday morning, 5,599 students and 316 employees are isolating after either testing positive or being in close contact with someone who has, the school board said. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/covid-19-students-forced-to-quarantine-in-florida-school-district-2021-8%3famp 15 South Florida school district staff members die of COVID-19 in 10 days; report Travis GibsonPublished: September 5, 2021 3:26 p The coronavirus is taking a toll on one South Florida school district. According to NBC6, 15 staff members in Miami-Dade County Public Schools died over a recent 10-day span. One of the educators that lost their life to COVID-19 was Abe Coleman, 55, a teacher for more than 30 years. https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2021/09/05/15-south-florida-school-district-staff-members-die-of-covid-19-in-10-days-report/ More kids hospitalized with COVID-19 in U.S. states with lower vaccination rates, CDC report finds More children went to the hospital and emergency room in states with lower vaccination rates, according to a new study from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Children have largely been spared the worst of COVID-19 -- hospitalizations and deaths are rarer for children than for adults -- although recently children's hospitals have been filling up in COVID-19 hotspots around the country. The research published Friday in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Report found that hospitalizations and emergency room visits for kids with COVID-19 increased from June to August of this year. In the two week period in mid to late August, ER visits were 3.4 times higher in the states with the lowest vaccination rates and hospitalizations were 3.7 times higher than in states with the highest vaccination rates. The states with the lowest vaccination coverage were in the South. "Broad, community-wide vaccination of all eligible persons is a critical component of mitigation strategies to protect pediatric populations from SARS-CoV-2 infection and severe COVID-19 illness," the CDC-led team wrote. And while the more highly contagious Delta variant sent more kids to the hospital with COVID-19, it was a similar proportion to the numbers who were hospitalized earlier in the pandemic, a second report found. The team found hospitalization rates increased five-fold among children and teens and increased rapidly from late June to mid-August, coinciding with the spread of the more contagious Delta variant in the United States. The rate of hospitalization for unvaccinated teens was 10 times higher than for those that were vaccinated. Hospitalizations were highest among kids aged up to 4, and teens 12-17. One in four of the children who were hospitalized needed intensive care….. https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/health/coronavirus/more-kids-hospitalized-with-covid-19-in-u-s-states-with-lower-vaccination-rates-cdc-report-finds-1.5573431 WHO THE HELL WANTS TO SIGN UP FOR THAT???

That’s not “really bad” or unusual for medical treatments and procedures, many bear some risk of complications and discomfort or worse. All 7,218 deaths are TTS

No actually it’s not bad given the 177 million doses that have been given out It also says people with that condition recover quickly : More than 177 million people have received at least one dose of COVID-19 vaccine in the United States, and CDC continues to monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines for any health problems that happen after vaccination. Since April 2021, there have been more than a thousand reports to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) of cases of inflammation of the heart—called myocarditis and pericarditis—happening after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (i.e., Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna) in the United States. These reports are rare, given the hundreds of millions of vaccine doses administered, and have been reported after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, particularly in adolescents and young adults. View the latest information. CDC and its partners are actively monitoring these reports, by reviewing data and medical records, to learn more about what happened and to understand any relationship to COVID-19 vaccination. Most patients who received care responded well to treatment and rest and quickly felt better. Wrong you are allowed to know!The TTS is the fatal reaction to the J&J vaccine. Click the link to the PDF under that one they have it broken down by age. I’m not able to copy/paste the chart: …,,A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths pdf icon[1.4 MB, 40 pages]. But again all deaths are a veery very minute fraction (0.0020%) of those who received a shot

Sorry your idiotic bass-ackwards logic is understood. It’s just…. I mean it’s funny, hilarious even….but it’s just soooo dumb.

You mean here on the same page where it says: For public awareness and in the interest of transparency, CDC is providing timely updates on the following serious adverse events of interest: Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 2 to 5 people per million vaccinated in the United States. Severe allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, can occur after any vaccination. If this occurs, vaccination providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) COVID-19 vaccination is rare. As of August 25, 2021, more than 14.2 million doses of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine have been given in the United States. CDC and FDA identified 44 confirmed reports of people who got the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and later developed TTS. Women younger than 50 years old especially should be aware of the rare but increased risk of this adverse event. There are other COVID-19 vaccine options available for which this risk has not been seen. Learn more about J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS. To date, two confirmed cases of TTS following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Moderna) have been reported to VAERS after more than 346 million doses mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered in the United States. Based on available data, there is not an increased risk for TTS after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. CDC and FDA are monitoring reports of Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) in people who have received the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. GBS is a rare disorder where the body’s immune system damages nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis. Most people fully recover from GBS, but some have permanent nerve damage. After more than 14.2 million J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine doses administered, there have been around 176 preliminary reports of GBS identified in VAERS as of August 25, 2021. These cases have largely been reported about 2 weeks after vaccination and mostly in men, many 50 years and older. CDC will continue to monitor for and evaluate reports of GBS occurring after COVID-19 vaccination and will share more information as it becomes available. Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. As of August 25, 2021, VAERS has received 1,377 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received COVID-19 vaccine. Most cases have been reported after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), particularly in male adolescents and young adults. Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and FDA have confirmed 798 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and myocarditis. Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 369 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through August 30, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 7,218 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths pdf icon[1.4 MB, 40 pages].

I did not post a “study”.

Because the anti-vax and anti-maskers on this thread want us to do exactly what the shithole red states are doing why wouldn’t I point out what a disaster it’s been?

OMG ???? Are you kidding me? THOSE LAWS ARE WHY THERE AREN’T FAR MORE PEOPLE DYING

So you have 1 anecdote. I believe I referenced this statistic earlier: More than 369 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through August 30, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 7,218 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

If vaccines are so bad and so dangerous, why does every public official in every country from just about every political party - from local public health staffers to heads of state - promote getting vaccinated? Why did your deity Trump launch “operation warp speed “ to develop and roll out vaccines? You don’t honestly believe that drug companies have bribed the whole world including Trump, do you? While US politicians and especially Trump are easily bribed and manipulated by lobbyists and corporations, there’s not enough money in existence to bribe everyone in the world from all political parties and get them all to cooperate in some obscure and the far-fetched conspiracy to wipe out the human race……or whatever nefarious plot you think they have going .

I see nothing intelligent posted by you. Keep trolling, troll.