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LMAO what a question. Republicans unilaterally ended bipartisanship and started dividing America during the final years of the Clinton administration with the launch of Fox News and the Monica Lewinsky scandal witch hunt. Democrats have been trying and failing to compromise with increasingly extremist Republicans ever since. When Obama was elected in a landslide he attempted to heal the nation’s division by inviting Republicans to form a White House advisory panel just as Abraham Lincoln did with his opponent to heal after the Civil War. Obama did this though he had just mopped the floor with Republicans in the election and owed them nothing. How DOD Republicans respond? They publicly announced a boycott of the advisory panel, publicly declared an eternal jihad on Obama and Democrats and threatened to primary any Republicans who cooperate with Obama. Oh and they also repeated their birther lies right through both of Obama’s terms….the birther lie was the Republicans Big Lie before the current election Big Lie, and after the Iraq war WMD/Al Qaeda Big Lie (Republicans tell a lot of Big Lies). Republicans have been stoking division and identity politics with the ginned-up culture war issues like the phoney “war on Christmas” anti-immigrant hysteria, anti-Muslim hysteria, anti-liberal hysteria, anti/BLM hysteria Republicans are the ultimate identity politicians because all of their opinions about events are not based on the facts of the event or on principles but instead on the identity of the people involved in that event, with the white conservative Christian male being at the top of your preferred identity hierarchy. Republicans have a long list of identities they despise (liberals, gays, immigrants, Muslims etc) whom they think don’t even deserve basic rights or fair treatment I don’t really care about your links to Republican propaganda blogs. You can’t prove Republicans are right with links to Republican sites any more than someone could prove Hitler was right by linking to Josef Goebbels speeches.

I never meant to imply that it’s exclusively whites Trumps rally was a planned event with fundraising and scheduled speeches on a stage, it’s a lot more organized than people simply posting a suggested time and place on Facebook with people showing up spontaneously.

You’re the one making silly statements without your idiotic false comparisons. Hillary’s staments weren't challenging the legitimacy of the election dummy. Trump is the only candidate ever who has refused to formally concede after losing , and the only one to have actually tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power and have himself declared president winner without any evidence. As I’ve said before, an athlete who publicly disagrees with a referee while respecting the result is not “challenging the legitimacy”of the sport and it’s not the same as an athlete who accuses the referee and the entire sports league of corruption and a vast bizarre conspiracy, and tries to steal the trophy for himself while his fans riot storm the league office and attempt to lynch league officials

Republicans have already proven that Frums statement was bang on

Another Republican peach in recent headlines: Former Forsyth Republican leader charged with stealing from church, threatening family MICHAEL HEWLETT [email protected] Oct 13, 2021 Nathan Tabor, a former chairman of the Forsyth County Republican Party who unsuccessfully ran for Congress, is in the Brunswick County jail, accused of stealing motor-vehicle parts and cyberstalking, among numerous other felony and misdemeanor offenses. Those charges include allegations that he made threats against his mother-in-law and other family members in Catawba County in an attempt to get more than $200,000 and that he harassed his pastor in Forsyth County, accusing the pastor of embezzling money from the church and making sexually-explicit comments to both the pastor and his wife. The pastor filed for a restraining order against Tabor in August. He was arrested in Brunswick County earlier this month on charges that he stole catalytic converters from a church, a Habitat for Humanity Restore and from two different people, according to arrest warrants. He is in the Brunswick County Jail on a $75,000 secured bond, according to online jail records. And his estranged wife has filed for temporary custody of their daughter, alleging in court papers that Tabor is addicted to drugs and has been emotionally and mentally abusive to their daughter. According to court papers, Tabor sent an email to their 16-year-old daughter, implying that she would burn in hell….. https://journalnow.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/former-forsyth-republican-leader-charged-with-stealing-from-church-threatening-family/article_09b2070c-2b9f-11ec-a030-8b71e14cf3f6.amp.html

And for your pleasure reading pleasure here are some from recent months 1) More perverts GOP operative indicted on child sex trafficking charges August 13 2021 MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A Republican political operative has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Minnesota on child sex trafficking charges. The U.S. Attorney’s Office alleges Anton Lazzaro conspired with others to recruit and solicit six people under the age of 18 to engage in commercial sex between May and December of 2020. Lazzaro is charged with five counts of sex trafficking of minors, one count of attempted sex trafficking of a minor, one count of conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors and three counts of obstruction. The 30-year-old Lazzaro is being held in the Sherburne County Jail. https://apnews.com/article/michael-pence-d8463834b6da12eccf3691b7461f3565 2) More dirty Russian money Republican Party operatives charged with arranging illegal Trump campaign contribution Jan WolfeSeptember 20, 20219:00 PM EDTLast WASHINGTON, Sept 20 (Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors on Monday unsealed criminal charges against two longtime Republican Party operatives, accusing them of illegally funneling a foreign campaign contribution to former President Donald Trump in 2016. According to an indictment unsealed in federal court in the District of Columbia, Jesse Benton and Doug Wead "conspired to illegally funnel thousands of dollars of foreign money from a Russian foreign national into an election for the Office of President of the United States of America." U.S. law bans foreign nationals from donating money to presidential campaigns. According to the indictment, Benton and Wead helped a Russian national get a ticket to a fundraiser with Trump in Pennsylvania in September 2016. The Russian, who was not identified in the indictment, donated $25,000 to political action committees associated with Trump in order to attend the event, according to prosecutors. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republican-party-operatives-charged-with-arranging-illegal-trump-campaign-2021-09-20/ 3). Just the latest Republican crooks: Republican congressman faces multiple federal criminal charges Unlike the last two members of Congress charged by the Justice Department, Nebraska's Jeff Fortenberry probably won't get a presidential pardon. By Steve Benen Oct. 20, 2021, 8:00 AM EDT Over the last five years, only two sitting members of Congress faced federal criminal charges: In August 2018, Republican Rep. Chris Collins of New York was arrested for alleged insider trading, and soon after, Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter of California was accused by federal prosecutors of having stolen more than a quarter million dollars from his campaign coffers. Both initially claimed they were victims of political persecution; both later resigned in disgrace; both were sentenced to prison; and both received pardons from Donald Trump. Yesterday, the list grew a little longer when Republican Rep. Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska was charged with lying to the FBI about contributions to his 2016 re-election campaign from a foreign billionaire. https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/ncna1281955

It seems that almost every month another Republican politician or MAGA acolyte at the federal, state or local level gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar or up some poor woman’s skirt without her consent. The list of Republican crooks and perverts is long and updates regularly so on this thread I’ll try to record of all the new ones going forward Heres the latest (the religious ones are always the biggest sex fiends): Sister-in-law of former Michigan House Speaker accuses him of raping her for YEARS By Gina Martinez For Dailymail.Com 02:41 09 Jan 2022, updated 08:11 09 Jan 2022 A sister-in-law of Michigan's former House Speaker has been identified as the woman who has accused the Republican lawmaker of raping her for more than a decade - with the sexual abuse starting when she was a 15-year-old student at a Christian academy where he was a teacher. Rebekah Chatfield, 26, came forward to detail her ordeal after filing the criminal complaint against Lee Chatfield last month, accusing Michigan's youngest House speaker in more than a century of sexually assaulting her multiple times while she attended Northern Michigan Christian Academy, which was run by his family. Lee Chatfield, 33, who was elected in 2014, was the House Speaker in 2019 and 2020 and headed the delegation of seven Michigan GOP leaders who met with then-President Donald Trump at the White House as he tried to overturn Democrat Joe Biden's win in the state. … https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10382611/amp/Sister-law-former-Michigan-House-Speaker-accuses-raping-YEARS.html

Democrats have not challenged the legitimacy of past elections. Disagreeing with the result and criticizing opponents tactics while still accepting the outcome is completely different from the Republicans recent coup attempt. The right wing extremists attempted to end democracy in America an prevent the peaceful transfer of power following a free and fair election. Since then, not only have they increased their voter suppression measures but in several states they have now passed laws that give partisan Republican officials the power to arbitrarily declare Republicans the winner of future elections even when they lose. Republicans will trot out these baseless accusations of fraud without any evidence in every election from now on and in these states those false accusations will he used as the pretext to build the Republican dictatorship.

That is the craziest and stupidest and most nonsensical thing I’ve ever heard. I guess your role in the whole Trumptard ecosystem is to make people like Westcan and Infidel seem smart and sane by comparison. Its also false that there have been more covid deaths since Biden took office But if COVID is a hoax and there’s nothing a president can do about it then as you claim then why would you try and blame Biden for more covid deaths? Your thoughts are so fragmented and half-baked you’re just spewing out random shit that doesn’t even match your other random shit and you obviously have spent zero time synthesizing all your little fragmented thoughts into any kind of coherent worldview. But don’t feel bad that’s typical Trumpster style

Not like those open-minded inclusive non-partisan Republicans eh LMAO Just the usual hypocritical Republican bullshit where Republicans complain that Democrats aren’t compromising with them enough, meanwhile the Republican party has a long and established track record of publicly vowing to never work with or compromise with Democrats Mitch McConnell and John Boehner literally held a press conference in 2010 to publicly declare that they would obstruct all Democrat initiatives for no reason other than the sole partisan purpose of making Obama a 1-term president

A link to prove your made up bullshit is made up bullshit? Did you forget how reality works again? If you bring up an accusation you have to prove that is IS true not the other way around. Dummy. If someone wants to claim that you’re a drug dealer or a pedo or that there’s a unicorn living on distant planet it’s up to them to prove it is s true not demand others prove them false. You’re obviously desperate to defend your pathetic and baseless Big Lie lies more than a year after your idiotic failed leader shit the bed amd was voted out of office. So we should declare the election stolen make Trump dictator unless we can prove there WASN’T fraud eh? Sounds just like when the lying Republicans fabricated the “slam dunk” story that Saddam “definitely”had WMD on warheads that could reach our shores in 45 minutes and then demanded we prove it WASN’T true. Trump failed as President and then he failed to steal the presidency and end American democracy with his lies. That makes him a 2-time loser

That is a uniquely American problem designed to keep poor (read: black) people from voting. Voting in the USA takes hours by design….unless you live in a rich/upper middle class area where there’s an abundance of conveniently located polling stations each with an ample supply if voting booths and the best/newest voting machines. And it’s still a 1-2-hour ordeal. Meanwhile in the poor parts of town where there’s one undersized station in a hard-to-access location and broken down voting machines are out of order, People who can’t afford to take the whole day off work to endure stay home. I doubt anyone who’s committed to spending 2-4 hours plus travel time unpaid to vote is going to change their vote simply because they were given a sip of water or a pee break. Jusr more Republican idiotic lies

The Big Lie fools nobody but the already converted true believers A year on and the Big Liars have failed to produce even a shred of evidence in any court or official venue in the nation despite have failed miserably in literally dozens and dozens of federal and state settings. What was the final tally of failed lawsuits? 60? 70? And to simply call them failed is a gross understatement. In fact The Big Liars’ legal cases were so baseless and lacking of merit and basic legal work required that most of the main Big Liar lawyers involved face professional discipline, disbarment, and/or financial ruin. So now they continue to repeat their lies in the public sphere and try Biden in the media because they’re not under oath when they repeat their lies on social media, blogs and podcasts And the dummies out there say “oh well they’re still talking about it so there must be something to it” when the real Republican strategy which they’ve used to great effect over the past several decades is simply if keep repeating a known lie it will eventually become the truth And the Trumptards still expect that Biden should be deposed and Trump made dictator, all based on vague non-specific claims of fraud that completely lack evidence. And we should also take their word that not was their fraud but that Trump won by such a margin that no recount is necessary, we should just crown Trump emperor based on his assurances that some day in the future all the evidence will magically appear after the fact. That’s not how democracy works. Thanks to Republican lies, the 2020 election was themlost scrutinized and audited election in history, most of the audits instigated by Republicans. AND STILL THEY FOUND NOTHING. Speaking of failed audits remember the right-wing hackjobs the Cyber Ninjas, who Arizona Republicans hired to do a rigged we audit of Arizona ballots? Yeah the ones who had absolutely no experience and no idea what they were doing, kept screwing up their numbers over and over? You know the guys who formed a toxic cesspool of sexual harassment of their own staff as Republicans are so often fond of doing? I’m talking about the Republican crooks who went way over time and over budget and bilked taxpayers for millions in yet another Republican scam? I’m sorry I know I’m not narrowing it down very much….I’m talking about the Republican liars who tried to prove the Big Lie but their numbers in the end found BIDEN WON BY AN EVEN LARGER MARGIN in Arizona so instead they released a comical report full of factual errors, misunderstandings of how elections work, and of course baseless accusations and innuendo that their own work couldn’t find any evidence to support? Yeah those guys! Well it seems after bilking the taxpayers for tens of millions as Republican ties firms are so fond of doing, they’ve completely shut down and laid off all their staff after being found in contempt of court for not turning over the records of their sham audits Cyber Ninjas says it's 'shutting down' after Arizona judge fines it $50,000 a day in audit records fight Cyber Ninjas, the Florida firm hired by Arizona Senate Republicans to conduct a partisan review of Maricopa County's 2020 ballots, said Thursday evening that it is not longer in business. "Cyber Ninjas is shutting down," company representative Rod Thompson told NBC News. "All employees have been let go," including CEO Doug Logan. But an Arizona judge who had just fined it $50,000 a day for noncompliance with an August order to turn over audit-related records to The Arizona Republic, wasn't having it. "The court is not going to accept the assertion that Cyber Ninjas is an empty shell and that no one is responsible for seeing that it complies," Maricopa Superior Court Judge Hannah told Cyber Ninjas lawyer Jack Wilenchik. He questioned the company's insolvency, citing millions in donations, and suggested it needn't cost much to comply with the records request. … https://theweek.com/cyber-crime/1008725/cyber-ninjas-says-its-shutting-down-after-arizona-judge-fines-it-50000-a-day-in?amp

My phone’s autocomplete strikes again: “If anyone it was NOT a president….” To answer your question: unlike the Trump rally, which was planned, organized and attended byTrump and his supporters, the BLM protests and riots were not planned or organized by any single group. And the riots weren’t organized at all. They’re just what happens sometimes especially when there’s something like George Floyd or Rodney King or any of the other outrageous killings of Black people that occurred around the same time Heck White people sometimes riot when their favourite sports team loses a big game. And sometimes even when their team wins the big game.

So your crackpot conspiracy theory is now saying Trump is a liar deliberately poisoning millions of American men women and children including millions of his fellow Republicans ….because why….? And you still admire him?

If anyone it wasn’t not a president of the united states. And nothing about the BLM riots entitles Trumptards to attack the nation’s capital and tey to end democracy.

Omg links to 2 right wing sites, both of which have the title “Trump says…” 1) You might as well link to the ISIS website to prove that Islam is the on true religion or link to the Bette Midler fan club page to “prove” she’s the greatest actress of all time 2) You probably don’t notice things like this: the articles are only reporting that Trump CLAIMED he requested additional security . They don’t prove that he actually did. Of course Trump is the world’s biggest liar and of course he has reason to lie about it after the fact so AGAIN you’re not “proving” anything with these links 3) You conveniently didn’t answer my other comment that it’s a ridiculous excuse anyway Trumps minions attacked the Capitol and the fault lies woth the Capitol not being adequately defended??? Lmao Blame the victim much ? What’s next you gonna tell us how the girl in the short skirt is to blame for not trying harder to fight off her rapist? Lame

So Trump asked Pelosi to beef up protection for the riot he knew he would start ??? LMAO GOTTA LINK FOR THAT?? First: It is that more REPUBLICAN IDIOTIC BULLSHIT (the speaker of the house doesn’t make security decisions and there’s no evidence Trump reached out to her or anyone else nor does it make sense that Pelosi would want a murderous mob hunting for her in the Capitol Second: the logic that Trump warned that his supporters were going to attack so it’s really the victims fault for not properly defending themselves is beyond ridiculous Obvious lies and ridiculous logic that’’s summed up Republicans over and over again for the last several decades

Like I said Trump is so damn stupid he probably had no idea that his rally and protest would lead to the Capitol getting stormed. Everyone else’s could foresee the obvious but not that dummy. Is Sanders responsible for the baseball shooting? If Bernie Sanders organized a rally for his most rabid supporters where he fed them hours of blood-boiling lies and violence-filled rhetoric, accusing the Republicans of the worst forms treason and the most unforgivable crimes against the country that was going to ruin each of their lives, told them to march on the baseball game and “fight like hell……then yeah he’d be partially responsible for the shooting whether he meant for it to happen or not.

So it was a disorganized amd uncoordinated insurrection….so what? Trump supporters aren’t exactly the organzed type anyway. More like impulsive idiots who have no idea ehat theyll be saying or doing a few days from now amd barely remember what they said or did a few days ago. It’s entirely likely that Trump organized and instigated the insurrection entirely by accident, he’s such a selfish idiot who can’t foresee m the obvious consequences of his vile self-serving lies and rhetoric. I wonder if any Trump terrorists will he conducting attacks tomorrow to commemorate their failed coup attempt I guess we’ll need to keep an ear out in case the daily mass shootings that Americans are so accustomed to see an increase above the usual average. Or maybe someone will follow in the footsteps of previous extreme right wing terrorists and bomb the federal building in Oklahoma City?

Your post is a typical uneducated response consisting of mostly empty rhetoric. You didn’t answer my question about your god Trump now did you?

You are clearly uneducated. We vaccinated people understand far better than you and other anti-vax dummies that the vaccine has limitations and isn’t a magic shield. Bit we also understand it lowers the chance of infection, transmission and the likelihood of severe symptoms. But to comprehend that type of perspective you would have to not be another dummy dropout with child-like mental reasoning. Your idiotic rant aside, your own Dear Leader Trump promotes vaccines, is triple vaccinated, and wants full credit for developing and rolling out vaccines. What do you say to that?

Ah when you pull out the “king of wrong” line its a tell that you know you’ve been busted. You know the old tactic of’when you’re caught lying the first words out of your mouth should be to call your accuser a liar and when you’re caught stealing the first words should be to call your accuser a thief’. Still not seeing any link “proving” anyone vowed to never take a vaccine developed by Trump. And trusting science to the scientists instead of your favourite politician is just plain common sense to anyone who’s not a brainwashed mindless worshipper of a wannabe failed dictator.

A right wing blog repeating the same ridiculous bullshit lies is not proof of anything. Show me the line in the constitution that says the VP has the sole power to unilaterally decree what is and isn’t constitutional according to his own personal whims and private beliefs totally outside of the courts or any other formal process? Nowhere. Because that’s not how democracies work and anyone with even a basic understanding of the difference between democracy and autocracy would kind of know that instinctively. I meant there’s this whole complex court system and a Supreme Court set up to rule on constitutional issues amd they dismissed all of Trumps ridiculous election lies as obviously baseless…. yet you believe that the US constitution allows the VP, who isn’t even required to have any legal knowledge whatsoever, has the power of one-man rule by decree on the constitutionality of election results according to his personal whims and superstitions? Especially when the VP himself is on the ballot? Ridiculous. It all just seems so….convenient

That claim is completely false and you’re a gullible sucker for believing it You guys have thousands of these accusations all of them absolutely unproven and discredited. The election ended over a year ago and still not one shred of evidence for Trumps clearly false BIG LIE has emerged despite the Right claiming back then that they had all the evidence and it is overwhelming Its funny every time a Republican wins in court you say “THE SYSTEM HAS PROVEN US RIGHT WE HAVE BEEN VINDICATED” and every time you lose in court you say THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST US ITS A VAST CONSPIRACY” This kind of mindset of yours proves your a radical extremist because unlike most rational people once you choose to believe there’s absolutely NO form of evidence or information that could convince you to modify your view. You will always invent some sloppy half-baked nonsensical conspiracy theory to explain why the inconvenient facts are fake and your beliefs are wrong The reason I chide you so much about being am uneducated high school dropout is because this type of rigid thinking about the world and conspiracy mindset is a hallmark of dropouts who look for ways to still feel smarter thanks everyone else To change their opinion on something, even in response to new information, in their mind means admitting they were wrong. And admitting they were wrong in their mind makes them feel like they’re stupid. And dropouts are usually people who are particularly insecure about this because for much of their lives or during their formative years at least they felt stupid or were made to feel stupid by others, probably a reason that they dropped out to begin with Anyways this is just a long way of saying that you’re repeating unproven or discredited lies and inventing conspiracy theories to explain why they’re really true even though by all objective assessment they are completely false Being wrong isn’t what makes you and yours seem stupid here. Even very smart and wise people are often wrong or make mistakes, and they admit it and learn from it. But the way you guys now just go straight to the absurd doubling down on obviously false info in the hopes that the world won’t see you as wrong as long as you refuse to accept reality…..that’s what makes you folks seem so stupid