BeaverFever

Copying my post, how childish. All you have to say now “I know you are but what am I?” Guess that’s proof I owned you again

You don’t know because you’re brainwashed. It doesn’t work and nobody expected it to be a potential cure until Trump the moron uttered it in one of his idiotic ramblings and then it became holy water to his mindless cult followers. At that point became a loyalty test to or a right-wing “virtue signal” to at least pretend it worked. The Lancet retracted publication of a study that CORRECTLY said HCQ doesn’t work because the researchers wouldn’t release all of the underlying data due to patient privacy concerns. NOT because the Lancet believes HCQ is useful. But why am I explaining how science works to a high school dropout, I might as well try to teach physics to an orangutang. HCQ has serious side/effects which increase risk of mortality. That’s ehy it’s only used for very limited purposes and COVID isn’t one of them. That’s just a fact, dummy Ok you really have a reading problem. Let me spell it out again: NEITHER CANADA NOR USA HAD SIGNIFICANT COVID CASES FROM CHINA. Therefore Trumps partial ban from China achieved nothing. Get it? Dude just because you’re too stupid and uneducated to understand statistics don’t assume everyone else is. You’re not fooling anyone you got 100% owned and proven wrong. I literally gave you the exact numbers which ate reported daily in plain language…and because you’re such a bottom-of-the-barrel oaf who can’t make heads of tails of it you couldn’t respond to it directly. So you instead you just reply “haha me right you wrong, me smart you stoopid!” You’re not fooling anyone dumbass, you got owned.

The only idiocy here is the hypocritical drivel that oozes out of your brainwashed uneducated mind. Like I said you’re completely inventing the claim that Russians were paid or that anything illegal happened with Hilary. Meanwhile the Trump team lied about their many Trump tower meetings and they should have alerted the US authorities when approached by the Russians instead of trying to collude with them.

Ffs no I’ve addressed this idiotic and hypocritical argument multiple times already. I’m not doing it again Hilarious that you use the fact that Trump was never convicted to “prove” he never colluded….them you go right on to say Hillary was “proven” to have colluded ….was she convicted? You probably don’t even realize what sloppy hypocrite you are And your definition of what “collusion” means is so ridiculously broad and stretched for Hilary but so ridiculously narrow for Trump. WHOSE STAFF ACTUALLY MET WITH THE RUSSIANS FACE TO FACE IN TRUMP TOWER And for the final time you’re completely making up the claim that Russians were paid. AGAIN: SIMPLY REPEATING YOUR DEBUNKED BULLSHIT AFTER ITS BEEN DEBUNKED IS NOT DEBATING OR REBUTTING AN ARGUMENT

LMAO you ate so brainwashed youe desperately making up shit. . Uh no it was ridiculous for him to talk about it at all. Even if it had been “promising research” - WHICH IT WASN’T -the president is not the one who should be telling the public about it because he’s not a scientist or an expert and it was research in the very early stages and not even peer-reviewed. HISTORY HAS ALREADY PROVEN THAT HCQ DOESN’T WORK FOR COVID . THE HCQ WAR IS OVER AND YOU LOST. LIKE A YEAR AGO. GET OVER IT. When did not blocking flights from China cost people’s lives? COVID came to North America from Europe. We can see that Trumps China travel ban was ineffective simply by that US was overrun far faster and worse than Canada even though he PARTIALLY blocked flights from China while Canada didn’t. I don’t know what exactly you’re exaggerating about when you say politicians are “lying” about masks and vaccines but it’s not possibly the same as the right’s deliberate fabrications on HCQ and now Horse dewormer as a sign of loyalty and the right-tard equivalent of “virtue signaling”. Do you seriously have these questions? You really can’t use your brain to come to a simple conclusion without tour right-wing websites telling you what to think? Unknown vax status means that as of this tome the numbers were collected that da, they hadn’t confirmed if the COVID patient was vaccinated or not. That would incline right-wing fucktards who refuse to answer but there are any number of reasons why the province doesn’t always have a confirmed vax status for every COVID case reported by doctors across the province each day. If you’re too stupid to figure that out I can’t help you. Those are stats and they’re not meaningless. They’re meaningless to uneducated people. But obviously they’re not all the stats, just what was convenient doe me to copy-paste. You can read the full stats here (this oughta be good - watching you try to read a scientific report has got to be like watching a monkey try to program a space rocket): https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data

Nobody is forcing you to get vaccinated. But nobody should be forced to accompdate you of you choose not be vaccinated. You have freedom of choice but with that comes responsibility for the consequences your choices. Chain smokers who refuse to quit smoking are not eligible to receive lung transplants. Alcoholics who refuse to quit drinking are not eligible for liver transplants. IV drug users are not eligible to donate blood. There have always been mandatory vaccination requirements for measles, mumps and a long list of other diseases, now you can just add COVID to the list. As for employers’ hiring policies, invariably there will be employers out there willing to hire the unvaccinated and other anti-vaxers will find ways to work from home or be self-employed or whatever. But id none of those appeal to you then just factor that into your decision-making when weighing whether to get the shot or not. But understand nobody is legally obligated to accommodate your superstitions. The soon-to-be 80% of eligible Canadians who are fully vaccinated should not have to wear PPE 24/7 and do daily rapid testing just to accommodate the preferences and conspiracy theories of the unvaccinated 20% who are on the fringe. And besides at least half of the unvaccinated don’t even want any masks or testing or distancing. They just want everything to go back to how it was in 2019 and just let the virus kill at will. My kids are both under 12 and I don’t want them catching the virus from some unvaccinated conspiracy nut. who is on the fringe

Yeah I’m sure Biden specifically ordered that the dogs be left behind ?

OMG How do you still not get it? I literally can’t dumb it down for you any more than I already did. It is completely inappropriate for the president to promote ANY research given that he’s not a scientist or an expert and it’s not his job….much less obscure experiments that are still in the early phases. In addition, HCQ turned out to be a failure, which surprised absolutely nobody except simple-minded Trump worshippers. Now you’re trying to pretend that HCQ didn’t become a right wing Trumptarad virtue signalling loyalty test after Trump promoted it. And that promoting HCQ is no different than promoting the ACTUAL vaccine? Gaslight much? Theres plenty of REAL-Time statistics ON A DAILY BASIS on how many CURRENT COVID cases are from unvaccinated people and shocker the vast majority are in umvaxxed. Here’s today’s stat: 23% of today’s active cases are in fully vaccinated people. That’s pretty consistent. For those in-hospital or ICU it’s almost all unvaxxed. Ontario reporting 656 new cases of COVID-19 WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 01, 2021. 10:19 AM EDT 504 cases are in individuals who are not fully vaccinated or have an unknown vaccination status and 152 are in fully vaccinated individuals.

Hilary didn’t collude with Russians, the Trump campaign did. Eveything else in your post is just a repetition of the same lies and exaggerations that I’ve already addressed. Repeating your failed claims is not the same as debating or rebutting an argument. Did you know that? Of course you didn’t.

If by “cheated” youam “broke the law” then no she didn’t cheat. It’s that simple. What definition of cheated are you using? Remember you’re trying to claim that this perfectly legal “cheating” proves that Democrats are capable of highly illegal and highly improbable election fraud LMAO OMG what you did is the textbook definition of straww-clutching! You took one tiny fragment of his EXTENSIVE sworn testimony and completely ignored everything else he said in order to try and pretend that his testimony was the exact opposite of what he said Focusing on one irrelevant grain of sand while pretending the mountain beside it doesn’t exist. Sums you up perfectly. It’s a perfect analogy and its been confirmed by literally every single cyber security agency that it was the Russians. There’s ZERO evidence to suggest anyone else much less Bernie or other DNC was involved

You could have stopped right there BeaverFever. You actually don't think about things like this with an open mind, whenever you see that Trump 'did something' you clutch at the first bias-confirming opinion that you hear like a drowning man clutching at a straw. That’s the most hilarious and false thing I’ve read in a while. You’re a brainwashed Trump worshipper who believes in far-fetched conspiracy theories and Trump’s god-like infallibility. Literally 100% of what you believe is based on who you worship and the long list of people you hate. You are so hypocritical and your logic so twisted and convoluted, that’s how I knew from day 1 you had so little education and called it out how obvious it is. You daily foam at the mouth over Hilary, Obama, Biden, Trudeau with insane, fabricated and/or exaggerated nonsense and then complain that people are anti-Trump? LMAO. PATHETIC You are absolutely clueless. This is a perfect example of how ignorant and brainwashed you are. The fact that HCQ is not an effective COVID treatment and poses serious health rusks is only half the problem. Trump is not qualified to promote, recommend or endorse any “promising new study” on potential treatments that he found on Google. And it was not “a promising new study “ There are literally hundreds if not thousands of researchers studying different treatments most of which result in failure as HCQ did. There was nothing particularly special about this obscure HCQ study by this obscure researcher, it was in no way justifiable for it to be highlighted by the POTUS of all people. It was completely reckless and dangerous and yet another pointless distraction. The fact that HCQ has been determined to be completely ineffective vs COVID is proof of that. Its not the presidents job to find the cure or to find and “promising research” on the internet. It was just another obvious absurdity that everyone except his brainwashed followers could see would end badly. Or as you would say “I totally predicted it”. Now the Trumptards are into horse dewormer as the next fraudulent cure for some reason. They’re each awful in their own way but Trump rambles incoherently all the time with no real point like a true blabbermouth who’s never at a loss for words He meanders from topic to topic amd goes off on tangents with half-formed sentiments and rants pure stream-of-consciousness nonsense. Here’s are some breakdowns of just a fee Trump incoherent rants YouTube is filled with it! Sure they do. Just Google it The second one below is at my local grocery store and plenty more are easily available online thru Amazon, well.ca etc

Your description of those events all exaggerated and distorted and aside from that even if we take your exaggerated descriptions at face value ITS A FACT THAT NONE OF IT IS ILLEGAL. PERIOD. Any desperate straw-clutching excuse to defend the Russians lol. Crowdstrike and literally every security agency has said it was the Russians. Crowdstrike witnessed in real time not one but two Russian government entities active on the DNC sever. Saying “but but but they didn’t witness the data being exfiltrated” in some desperate way to think it must be some other hackers who left no trace. You come home to find a group of burglars in your home with safe-cracking equipment and you chase them off. You find your safe is cracked open and your valuables are missing but you didn’t see the burglars actually take your valuables. Republican conclusion: there’s “no proof” the professional safe-cracking burglars cracked your safe and burgled your valuables, it could have just as easily been the cleaning lady leaving absolutely no trace or maybe even a ghost!

I don’t think Trump is extremely effective at anything except getting suckers to take HCQ, horse dewormer and other quack cures. And it’s not like he’s effective because he’s some great orator or cunning deceiver, it’s because his followers are so willing and credulous, and because his fragmented word salad rants are so incoherent it’s a rorschach test where his audience can interpret whatever they want from it.

You contradict yourself so many times claiming that Obama and Biden are war-mongers for bombing terrorists and then claiming only Trump is brave enough to bomb terrorists. And you don’t give Obama any credit for all the terrorists killed under his presidency do you? Then you claimed Trump “cut the head off” of the Taliban but the head and co-founder of the Taliban is the person Trump made peace treaty with and Trump handed him Afghanistan on silver platters And the. You’re like “so who cares Trump just wanted out of Afghanistan”. You’re contradicting your own claims because you’re so suckered in to trying to rebut anything I say no matter what you totally lose sight of what you’ve said previously. Also you’re too dim to understand that you don’t “predict” anything. When Republicans are in charge you claim the glass is half full and when Dems are in charge you claim it’s half empty. When tragedy occurs under Republicans, they love to claim without evidence that it couldn’t be avaoided and thank god we have a Republican in office to deal with it, nobody can fix things faster or better. When Dems are in office during a tragedy then it’s the opposite: a Republican would have prevented it from happening and/or would fixed it much quicker and better. It’s hilarious that you think the US dumpster fire didn’t exist under Trump or that the fortunes of an entire society as vast and diverse as the USA can magically reverse course on a dime only a few months after a new president takes office. Even if he were the worst president in history, things like change over the span of many years not months. It just goes to show how ignorant you are of the world (again).

Not jot correct and its already rebutted. Repeating your nonsense doesn’t move your argument forward. That’s such a blatant lie you should be ashamed. He said the exact opposite and you’ve been shown the link to their webpage where he says it was definitely the Russians and attempts to deflect suspicion from the Russians are misguided. It’s hard to tell wjen you’re lying and when you’re purposely wiping your memory because you’re so brainwashed but here it is agains; Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC? Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports. Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network…..This conclusion has most recently been supported by the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issuing a report [intelligence.senate.gov] validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community, published on January 6, 2017, that Russia was behind the DNC data breach… .. Furthermore, in his testimony in front of the House Intelligence Committee, Shawn Henry stated the following with regards to CrowdStrike’s degree of confidence that the intrusion activity can be attributed to Russia, cited from page 24: HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government. And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence. Does CrowdStrike have evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC network? Yes. Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32) and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, the Intelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.” https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/ It goes on in quite some detail. The Republican apologists trying to protect Russia are making the absurd and never-before-heard argument that since Crowdstrike gathered their evidence after the crime occurred and wasn’t there to witness the crime in real time as it was actually happening “there’s no proof” How retarded does someone have to be to believe that? Imagine if cops could only arrest murderers if the police officer is present to witness the murder with his own eyes as it was actually happening and actual evidence didn’t matter? Another lie. The world found out after the data breach and the emails were leaked Already rebutted. Also do you know what hypocrite you sound like when you essentially say ‘Trump never got caught colluding therefore he never did anything wrong” and then twice in the same post say “Just because the Dems didn’t get caught doesn’t mean they didn’t cheat”. Why do you think it’s fair to claim unproven accusations about Democrats are true, while at the same time saying allegations against Trump are untrue because they’ve never been proven? Don’t you think that makes you a shameless hypocrite?

LMAO I believe this is what they call “fan fiction!” I bet when you imagined that totally unrealistic scene in your head you pictured Trump with sculpted muscles, Fabio-style hair and an open shirt flowing in the breeze. I hope you weren’t touching yourself! Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He may or may not have bungled it the same or worse And weren’t you guys trying to claim that the Democrats are the bloodthirsty warmongers who bomb and kill anyone without hesitation ? Can you get your story straight please

Like I said, in my other post, it seems Biden bungled the withdrawal and had not counted n the Afghan state officials stepping aside for the Taliban. The Taliban didn’t retake Afghanistan through “military campaigning”. They cut deals with the hopelessly corrupt Afghan police and Army and various government officials a all levels, most of whom are primarily loyal to their tribe and their bribe-payers rather than a national government. The Afghan forces mostly just stepped aside for them.

Yes you do need to provide the list of terrorists Trump killed. The current leader of the Taliban who Trump made a deal with is one of its original founders. Oops! So much for that claim. And Trump has said repeatedly that ue doesn’t want any Afghan refugees coming here so as usual when the Republicans moan about the Afghans that Biden left behind while also demanding that they not come here they’re crying their crocodile tears. Like I said, it seems Biden bungled the withdrawal and had not counted n the Afghan state officials stepping aside for the Taliban. The Taliban didn’t retake Afghanistan through “military campaigning”. They cut deals with the hopelessly corrupt Afghan police and Army and various government officials a all levels, most of whom are primarily loyal to their tribe and their bribe-payers rather than a national government. The Afghan forces mostly just stepped aside for them.

So much bullshit and exaggeration I don’t know where to start If you believe there was VAST CONSPIRACY to steal the election that includes a whole roster of Republicans and Trump appointees who have otherwise been nothing but loyal Republicans your a crackpot, period. And this fact has nothing to do with the good or evil character of any Democrats. They could be the most dishonest people in the world for all I care… your insane conspiracy theory is just not plausible Not even remotely Let me reiterate this point: I’m not saying the Big Lie is impossible because Democrats are too honourable and would never stoop so low, I’m saying the absurd and grandiose conspiracy you’re alleging that left ZERO EVIDENCE is just not possible by anyone. Get it? Just to rebut your other comments: Hillary’s dealings with Dem insiders against Bernie is not “cheating in the election” and its not criminal. As unsavoury as it may be, political parties are free to deal with internal matters as they please. THAT’S A FACT You think the RNC party establishment doesn’t sideline anti-establishment candidates they don’t like? The debate fiasco wasn’t illegal either and the person who fed her those 2 questions was fired by CNN Both of these revelations were courtesy of the Russian hacking that the Trump team had inside and advance knowledge about. Lastly the claim that Russians were paid for info is something you’ve simply invented. In addition, if you pay a guy who pays another guy who pays a third guy that you don’t even know exists doesn’t mean you’re colluding with the third guy. So it’s more of your Fake news AND desperate exaggeration. Trump escaped the Mueller investigation because he tampered with witnesses and obstructed Justice and Bill Barr covered for him. The same Bill Barr that said Trumps Big Lie was total bullshit. The claim that the Mueller investigation was fabricated but also found nothing makes no sense. If its fabricated then why would they fabricate it to find nothing? The investigation was not started because of Steele it was started because idiot Trump campaign staff were bragging about their Russian dealings and having meetings with known Russian operatives who are always under US surveillance And don’t forget: when asked about these meetings then they lied to the FBI about it which is a crime Youre also badly misinformed about voter ID laws (shocker). Historically Americans have never been required to show photo ID t vote. We’re not required in Canada either. Don’t forget not too many decades ago Photo ID didn’t even exist It’s the Republicans who are requiring that because they know poor people who don’t drive and don’t travel abroad tend not to vote Republican. Ballot signatures are matched in many if not all places. Amd in fact Republicans were having a fit and falsely claiming evidence fraud because some states have cure campaigns for signature mismatches where they actually go to the voters hime to verify before they count the ballot. Different states have different rules about mailing ballots or applications for ballots and there’s nothing inherently wrong about mailing ballots during a pandemic. And considering this supposed “election steal” would be the grandest conspiracy of all times, involving tens of thousands of people from all walks of life in 538 different voting districts faking 538 different ballot templates and running hundreds of different scams simultaneously with unheard-of level of co-ordination: ALL WITHOUT LEAVING ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE. COMICAL

I’m not calling you fascist I’m saying if you think killing families in concentration camps is “standing up to them” then you’re a fascist. Do you think that? Your links above are not examples of Democrats supporting Antifa. It’s Republican propaganda whining that Democrats aren’t being tough enough on Antifa (which is in fact not an organization but an ideology as Biden said - like the right wing Q movement). Recommending a book about Antifa isn’t the same thing as promoting Antifa just like recommending a book about Nazis or slavery is not promoting Nazis or slavery.

Trump was not “hunting them like dogs”. Trump is the one who made a peace deal with them and started the plans to withdraw. I don’t blame you for not remembering that, the GOP is quickly deleting that from history The RNC deleted a webpage hailing Trump's Taliban deal as fighters swept Afghanistan, but says it was part of routine web maintenance The Republican National Committee removed a webpage hailing President Donald Trump's peace deal with the Taliban. But it said it was done not to distance itself from the policy in response to the militant group's seizing power, but as part of routine web maintenance. The webpage, which was first posted on the Republican National Committee's website during last year's presidential election, hailed Trump's foreign-policy achievements. An archived version of the page can be found here. Wayback Machine, an internet-archive site, said the page was removed on August 15, as chaotic scenes emerged from Kabul of US forces evacuating officials from its embassy as Taliban militants seized control of the country. … The page had praised Trump's attempts to end the US's two-decade military involvement in Afghanistan. It described how Trump "continued to take the lead in peace talks as he signed a historic peace agreement with the Taliban in Afghanistan, which would end America's longest war." The page referred to a February 2020 conditional peace dealbetween Trump and the Taliban, which committed the US to cutting the number of troops in Afghanistan if the Taliban did not provide support to terrorist groups. The page went on to say that Trump's rival, presidential candidate Joe Biden, had a "history of pushing for endless wars," and it listed the times he had called for more troops to be deployed in Afghanistan. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/gop-removes-page-hailing-trump-taliban-deal-2021-8%3famp Regardless of the fact that withdrawal from Afghanistan was warranted, it’s pretty difficult to believe that it couldn’t have been planned and executed better. And at the very least if the chaos we’re seeing now was in fact inevitable and unavoidable as some are claiming, then the Biden admin should have been honest and upfront about it beforehand.

Goebbels himself couldn’t have said it better. And if you believe marching families into concentration camps, gas chambers or infront of firing squads is simply “standing up to them” then you’re definitely a fascist.

That’s not true. Most Antifa think the there’s little real difference between Democrats and Republicans and that both parties are corrupt They’re not completely wrong. Give me one example of Democrats supportive of Antifa. Trump is doing a hell of a lot more than simply disputing the results or expressing a personal opinion. Don’t try to minimize his attempts to steal the election and delegitimize democracy.

Fascism comes from the Latin word fasces. Fasces, insignia of official authority in ancient Rome. The name derives from the plural form of the Latin fascis (“bundle”) The fasces was carried by the lictors, or attendants, and was characterized by an ax head projecting from a bundle of elm or birch rods about 5 feet (1.5 metres) long and tied together with a red strap; it symbolized penal power…. Benito Mussolini’s Fascist Party of Italy was named for the fasces, which the members adopted in 1919 as their emblem. https://www.britannica.com/topic/fasces Fasism is always socially conservative, (i.e. “traditional values” and gender roles,contempt for foreigners, immigrants, minorities and foreign cultures/religions, promising to restore some long lost golden age when everything was right). Fascism also pro-business as your quote from Mussolini indicates and the tycoons and oligarchs enjoy special treatment from government or even become government officials. Fascists also view themselves as the natural enemies of socialists and communists and openly persecute these groups.

You are the one who doesn’t know what fascism is. Authoritarianism can be left wing or right wing. Fascism is the name for right wing authoritarianism. Period. That’s why there were so many neo-nazi group attending the “unite the right” rally in Charlottesville. Neo Nazis support Trump