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I know that, but if you actually read what dougie has written he does not. He has specifically said that not only he hates Canada, and is only loyal to the British monarchy Maybe you just accidentally quoted me instead of him? Not sure, but asking me to defend something i said in jest responding to his original post that without the Queen Canada would fly apart. Is a best misguided

Only him and his imaginary friends, but watch out they're planning to overthrow the Canadian gov't in the name of the Queen. Hahahaha

You read the news? So what others think? You observe? Observe what? you just said all the Muslims you've met were decent. Think independently? Independent of your own observations? Don't worry about offending? Why would you want to offend those you call decent? Aren't defending Christianity? My only statement was all religions are bad, yet you continue to say how bad islam is, an opinion i share by the way Mohammed and Jesus are dead? Tell that to the people that still evoke their names to spred hate Blame the teachings? The teachings( or scripture) are of course the problem, and are the source of the hate people still endorse today. I hope and pray(joke intended) that people of all religions will see the clear superiority of secular morality.

Apologies but Im confused, if every Muslim you know is decent( may i assume you mean conforms to Canadian standards of secular morality? If that's not your definition please elaborate) why do you choose to single out Islam, an admittantly barbaric religion while defending the demonstrably similar Christian faith that essentially teaches the same thing? Again, Mohammed was just the last in a line of profits that included Jesus. Meaning that the vast majority of teachings come from the exact same text

funny how you chose to use the translation that said division instead of sword, but anyway No Christian law? Is god not the source and reason for all of morality for Christians ?( spoiler it is) , And is the entire Bible not the word of god? (It is as well) Apologists make me laugh, cherry picking the parts of the Bible to support their beliefs, not to mention the fact that there are tens of thousands of different Christian denominations in north America alone that all interpret their cherry picked parts of the Bible differently. Want to know what's wrong with Catholics ask a baptist, want to know what's wrong with baptists ask a Mormon, want to know what's wrong with the LDS ask a Muslim, want to know what's wrong with islam ask a Hindu, and so on, and so on. I just agree with all of them But you continue to defend your "God" that condones such things as slavery, genocide and misogyny, you apparently share his(or hers, hahaha) morals

So you are a Christian? How do you feel about the teachings in the Bible about homosexuality, women or slavery just to mention a few? Again we are a secular society that has moved away from religion. The idea that we're that much farther advanced is laughable, the Catholic church without any official power controlled the province of Quebec until the 1950, but women's rights? There are women alive today born in this country without the right to vote You can't cherry pick the Bible to only follow the teachings you like, while chastising others for believing the passages you don't appove. Who are the Muslims in your entourage? I had a buddy over last night, born in Egypt to a devout Muslim family, moved here in highschool, still attends mosque and prays everyday, not only were we smoking erb and drinking alcohol, but he's to the left of me on most issues. This is much more representative of the Muslim population of Canada then the caricatureisation your prejudice wants ti suggest

You think there are tens of thousands of burka wearing immigrants, coming to Canada every year? Please provide examples, they estimate less then 100 in Quebec, it being the second most populated province ,simple math says your off by a least a factor of ten. But yes bring them in so we can teach them how a free society works. This idea that were so much farther advanced is ludicrous. We need not go back very far to find a time the church controlled our lives disproportionately. Look how the Catholic church literally ran the province of Quebec until the 1950's, But women's rights, you say? There are women alive today, that were born in this country without the right to vote Its evident your slanted, self-righteous indignation, is based solely on opinion, and i would even suggest simply a ruse to go after brown people, but i may be wrong

As ive repeated numerous times, no religion is moral. You on the other are demonizeing one barbaric religion over another and to do so are attempting to disregard the holy book they share. You're either a Christian trying to defend your faith while ignoring the book its based on, or your a non believer that hasn't even put in the work to understand they're both Abrahamic religions As i haven't studied eastern religions at the same level as the Abrahamic ones, im reticent to speak to much on them, but yes atrocities has been committed in the name of all "gods"

what are you on about? Dude called me an academic, i was both amused and pleased by this Credentials? You consider high school dropout a credential, how unacomplished must you be in life? On a positive note you're off that foot fetish, at least that's something

Don't get me wrong, I of course have a certain bias based on personal experience, and yes to say I don't have any predisposed opinions on morals would be intellectually dishonest That being said, my values are based on secular morality, which essentially is based on empathy and well being. Though I believe in a certain objective morality, this philosophy promotes a subjective analysis of each individual situation Again, im not implying in any way, shape, or form that my ideology doesn't inform every decision i take, so because of that i take extra care to make sure my inherent bias is accounted for. A trick I (or anyone else for that matter) use is to simply put yourself in the place of the person(s) who's opinions differ from yours to try and see how, and why they came to their conclusions(empathy) Partisanship is a different matter all together, it intentionally uses that bias without even attempting to correct for it, partisanship makes one think they already have the only answer before even evaluating a specific topic or issue. That i can honestly, and without reservation say that i am not. You said " Activism is impossible within legit academics" what do you mean? Academics is about as far from my wheel house as you could get, but as the rest of your post was thoughtful and reasoned I would very much like to understand.

I did, he said everything, I then responded to you saying im building a straw man after I had asked him a follow up question directly quoting his response. But I'll gladly ignore you if you'd like? Not as id you're saying anything of substance anyway

Personally, I think it denigrates women and has no place in modern society Politically, other than voting and receiving public services, why would I care what someone wears and what right do I have to impose my views on them if I did care?

Again how is a question directly related to his point building a straw man?

I literally asked for what he "specifically"meant when he used fifth column. Ie who they were and who was the enemy. He responded with "everything" his word not mine, gow is that me building a straw man?

So because Australia we need the monarchy to stop confederation from fliing apart? Do explain

Everything is the enemy? Every teacher, administrator and bureaucrat is a Marxist? As I suspected nothing more than partisan rants Cant offer any actual argument

Yet both are living under mosaic law, go figure. You've chosen to ignore the posts that give examples of the tyranny committed by the Christian church. How about Jesus' own words Mathew 10:34

Define what you mean by conservative. I believe that i have the right to swing my arms up and until your face gets in the way, meaning my rights end where yours begin. The left is often to sensitive to their perceived affront against people's rights, when simply expressing ones opinion even if differs from yours is one of the most important rights we have The right on the other hand think that their idea of morality should supersede the rights of the individual. Both say they know what's "right" but neither care to know whether or not its true

Another witty retort, don't worry though only us academics ( seriously, thanks for the compliment) will understand that even you realize you have no logical leg to stand on, so you chose to deflect using the comedic genius of mike Myers Honestly, calling me an academic really made my day, I was in my late 30's before i had any diploma. Even though the source is questionable and you were trying to insult me ( was the idea im some sort of liberal elitist? ) it was a bit of an ego boost, so again Thanks!

Academic? Thanks!!! Im a high school drop out, that has spent almost twenty years part time earning three certificates that amount to a four year degree, and still can't write with proper grammar If you equate asking you to express your opinion in logical form to "academic" (don't know what fop means) not sure what to tell you

You do realize it's an Abrahamic religion right? That Mohammed was just the last in a line of profits that included Jesus?

Again, because we don't live under a theocracy and haven't for hundreds of years. Which denomination of Christianity are you referring to? ( tens of thousands in North America alone) My mom grew up French Catholic in small town new Brunswick, the church had no real power yet still told women how to dress and applied corporal punishment for using your left hand (pretty violent and authoritarian to us south paws) I could go back a while and talk about the biblical justifications for slavery, a lttle closer with voting rights, and more modern with how the westbourgh baptist church delt with abortion. Arguing about which is worse deflects from the fact that none of them are good moral guidelines

Yet they both share the same holy texts, go figure. The speed at which a society sheds the veil of darkness religion attempts to shroud them with, has nothing to do with the inherent lack of morality, that they each teach. Western culture advanced as we became more secular, not evolving because of the church but in spite of it

If we're dancing, post like "shrugs" make it clear who's leading

Yes Christianity is primarily based on the teachings of Jesus, but the idea that you can disregard the old Testament is patently and demonstrably false, not just open for debate but absolutely untrue. One can and does not exist without the other