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The fact that you didn’t already know that confirms my point

Which political rhetoric? The one that lies about EV saving the planet from CO2 emission while is actually more polluting in their life cycle than a regular gas vehicle? That’s fake news. The electricity demand is exponentially increasing due to AI infrastructure build out. The taking away of government incentives was meant to slow roll the EV adoption because of the generation capacity is not yet available.

This doesn’t address the production. Where is the energy being produced!?

the same Europe that can't muster a single ship to sail the the straight? I think you got this reversed. Have you considered the fact that the Chinese are also helping out the Russian? Europe to defend against a Sino-Russian threat all by themselves eh? You have alot more faith in Europe's defunct military.

Gonna try. You want a North Korean Pariah status for Canada is what you're implying? Having nuclear weapons and inability to feed your population?

Nope new tariff. No, the moment we do that, everyone gets a nuke. Not going to happen.

Europe is responsible for its own conventional military deterrence. US to provide nuclear strategic umbrella. Europe to invest in MAGA and buy down tariffs.

Can and does Of which requires infrastructure development and capital investment to realize. Capital that you lack. The energy was for processing the material not for our actual use per se. waste of time. You will not get a better deal. America is not in the globalist race to the bottom game of low cost manufacturing. We are the consumers and both side of the isle broadly support America’s Industrial reshoring policies. Good luck with Carney, your globalist banker whose personal investments like most other Canadian are being invested in America.

Yes part of our reshoring effort. And despite that businesses are still choosing to build in Mexico... You know why? Because Mexican labor is cheaper and more productive for mid skill labor like manufacturing. No the plan was to leverage Canadian energy with material processing. And you had to go and elbows up eh? Still is the plan, we're just shifting that timeline to wait you all out. After third world Canada that is.

We’re the mean one!? Coming from a country whose national sport is b!tching about America… Okay. Look you Canucks really need to work on that passive aggression.

That’s not entirely accurate. We’re putting Canada on timeout and giving the business to the Mexican. Why? Because you’re all pigheaded and would rather be third world Americans than simply American. At which point we’ll come in and buy you out for pennies on the dollar anyways. So no rush Canucks be as obstinate as you want. Have it your way.

He lashes out when he’s upset.

What you don’t understand is that MAGA is now the largest voting block and therefore ruling power. The non MAGAs have not been able to coalesced into a coherent entity. Lacking any real substance or motivation; turn out you can’t form a political party from an anti-Trump cult of personality.

Payback is just the icing on top. Maintaining the petrol dollar supremacy is the most important reason.

It's a bigger mistake to invest in things we don't need. The next evolution of technology isn't going to come from something with four wheels. Now if you're arguing that EV are cheaper to own and potentially operate then why do you need goverment incentives LOL! The right minded people would adopt EV on their own without any incentives.

Again my preposition isn’t against EV, it’s that we don’t need another car at the expense of other priorities. Don’t assume we have unlimited resources. For the reasons stated, I’m in favor of slow rolling EV. No government incentives needed.

You don’t need goverment incentives for that. The people that want to buy an EV can afford one. They can pay for their own infrastructure or drive their gas car if it doesn’t have the charging stations that’s available. And Electric Vehicles aren’t new. There’s a Ford Model T “EV”

Okay so why don’t we use that energy to support more Datacenters. A new car is not what we need right now.

What is that supposed to even mean???? You want a different way of walking!!!?? Reinvent the wheel? To do what? Another car that does the exact same thing your Yukon Denali already does? How about we use it to power up higher productivity improvements like AI.

to solve what problem that hasn't already been solved!? address that point first. Why do we need electric vehicles? a typical tesla requires 8kw of slow charging over night for like 10 hours or more to top off. That means bare minimum you would need 640 Gigawatt of energy production overnight. The US entire energy production currently tops out at 1200 Gigawatt with half coming from fossil fuel. What, we're expecting to Sun to shine at night and the wind to blow consistently every night? TDS is not good for critical thinking.

Can you form a coherent narrative instead of this nonsense? Energy is energy, replace EV with toaster oven if you want. It doesn’t really matter what the load is. They all compete for the available energy being generated. More toaster oven means more energy needed… this is basic math man. Also what’s EV benefits other than another set of wheels? Seriously we have a working system to resolve the getting from A to B problem already with no new infrastructure needed.

EV infrastructure competes for the same raw material resources required of AI data centers. To give some perspective, Ontario peak energy consumption is 20-25 Gigawatt during the hot and cold months. One large AI datacenter uses 2 Gigawatt. Some projection for EV replacement would increase energy consumption to 60Gigawatt. Distributed across a large geographic continent, increasing infrastructure buildout cost (electric cables etc) That’s the scale you need to understand. There is no way the current grid can support that level of energy demand. Choosing between another transportation option that does the same job or building out Skynet, America is choosing Skynet first. Stable genius.

The truth is buried deep but lets shed some light. The current electrical grid can’t support wide scale EV adoption on top of the infrastructure build out required of AI data centers. Removing the EV incentives was meant to slow down investment in one sector to prioritize the other. If you look at the incentives on lithium batteries they have not went away.

He will live rent free in your head until your last day.

Grasping at straws. We’re not that different. Yes you are a stubborn lot. You all really need to stop day dreaming the Harper era. It’s ironic that Canadian metric for success is how much better off they are than Americans. Also comical. No you aged past the period of relevance, your industries are not competitive and your labor force is shrinking with a ballooning pension burden that erodes capital for investment. Salvation has to come from the outside. The country that can afford to do so is America.