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Yes, and that just proves what I said. The Pope and Romanism has enormous influence over Canadian government. Many, if not most governments in Canada's history were Liberal governments and most of them had PMs from Quebec is all I'm saying. Most recent examples are the Trudeaus, father and son, both from Quebec, Jean Chretien, Mulroney, etc. from Quebec. Yes the Catholic church has enormous influence over Canada's government as much as you like to deny it. While PMs and the federal government does not directly influence provincial education policy, they have an enormous influence on many other policies and things. The federal government responsible for FNs and paid 35 million dollars for the Pope's visit to try to placate FNs and improve Rome's standing with FN and Canada. Yes, Rome has a big influence through the federal government's pandering to Rome. Let's be clear, I never said I could "prove" the Bible. I said there is lots of evidence internally and externally. There is lots of internal evidence for example that Jesus actually did perform many miracles because eye witnesses are counted as evidence in any court of law today. They carry a lot of weight. There were many eye witnesses to his resurrection as well recorded in the Bible. That's internal evidence. I know there is a difference between proof of something and evidence. As far as the subject of creation versus evolution, there are thousands of articles and videos that point out endless reasons why creation is more credible than evolution. Nobody can prove or disprove something that occurred long ago when there were no eye witnesses to the events. It is not a matter of who has the absolute proof of it. It is a matter of what seems most reasonable. Same with the question of God. It is not something that I am claiming can be proven as in the scientific method by normal experiment of observation. I am just saying that the preponderance of logic and reason supports the belief in divine creation rather than the theory of evolution. As I said, you seem to automatically just dismiss something as nonsense without even listening to the arguments for it. Everyone has to make that choice themselves. All I'm saying is God loves everyone and wishes for them to come to the knowledge of the truth concerning his Son and salvation. The alternative is eternal damnation according to the Bible. But that's everyone's choice or so it seems.

You are probably correct. Popery really controls this country. It is unknowingly built into the fabric and culture of society. If you examine Liberal ideology and the aims and objectives of the Jesuit college where Trudeau went for his secondary education, you will find their long list of aims is very similar to much of liberal ideology. For example, that is where liberals get their globalism. Trudeau went to China in 2015 and thought he could talk them into liberal thinking. They just laughed him off and dismissed him as a kook. Liberals don't understand Communist systems and think they can change the world with Jesuit ideology. This has absolutely nothing to do with the Bible or Christianity. It is a heathen religion with religious trappings and covers. I attended a Catholic school for grades 8 and 9 when I was young. The nuns treated me well. I had no problem with that. But it is not biblical Christianity at all. I was converted in my thirties by the simple gospel message I heard over the radio. The thing about people going to the Catholic school is they will be indoctrinated with Romanism which is a false religious system. There have also been a lot of bad behavior from people who came from Catholic schools at times. We saw that from the scandal around a Catholic private school in the Toronto area with the terrible abuse perpetrated by a number of boys on a classmate. I don't really know if Catholic schools produce better behaved or more law-abiding people than public schools. It is possible, but have not seen any statistics about it.

Not bogus at all. Even Trudeau attended a Jesuit-founded college in Quebec for his secondary education. Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf gives it's stated goals on their website. Obviously they don't state the main purpose of Jesuitism, which is the expanded control of the world by Rome. That's why they were created in about 1540s. The stated objectives of the Jesuit college are strangely very similar to the beliefs of the Liberal Party. Surprise eh. Same beliefs and ideology as a Jesuit college. Well, I don't think there is much question Rome has a hand in the political system and government. Even 35 million dollars spent for the Pope's PR visit was automatically done by the government. Nobody raised any question about it. Even the media said nothing. Silence. Whatever Rome wants they get it. The word religion is actually a very general word that covers all the countless false religious beliefs in the world. There can be only one truth. It is silly to say the Bible is the same as all other religions. It is entirely different. But if one has never studied it or anything, it is nonsensical to dismiss it. Just because one doesn't believe in the supernatural does not prove it is not a reality. The Bible is full of evidence of its truth and authority. Before dismissing something that you know nothing about, you should at least admit you know nothing about it and accept the possibility that there could be a God and the Bible could be true. But dismissing something without any study is irrational.

Most liberals are probably Catholic because the fact is Quebec is 95% Catholic and most PMs come from Quebec and many of their cabinet ministers come from Quebec. Likely high percentage are Catholic. Even though many Catholics are non-practicing I know for a fact they still consider themselves Catholic. It's kind of crutch they think will save them, even though it won't. No private religious school can be absorbed by the public system because freedom of religion is a basic Charter Right in Canada. But there is no reason why the taxpayers should be funding one religion's school systems. Canada is far from treating all citizens in a fair and balanced way even though it professes to. Religious beliefs are completely rational. It is irrational not to believe in a Creator and a God who is as described in the Bible. Just stands to reason. The complexity of the universe and vast amounts of information for everything and all life to function could not have just appeared without a cause. Every effect has a cause. So there is a cause of the universe and a reason for our existence. We are not just a bunch of chemicals that accidentally appeared out of nowhere. The most foolish thing was for educational institutions to bring in an unproven theory, i.e. the theory of evolution and teach it as if it were fact. It has been debunked by many highly educated scholars including many scientists. It is irrational and explains nothing. All it ever did was turn people away from belief in the true God of the Bible and our Creator. This has put society in a more dangerous and dysfunctional position. Likely contributes to more problems, crime, and mental illnesses.

Romans 3:10 says "There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one." That paints a pretty bad picture. What is the destiny for most of mankind in that case? quote Whether Jew or Gentile, male or female, young or old, rich or poor, most people delight to think of themselves as worthy in the sight of God and of greater merit than other people. Most consider themselves deserving of heaven and that they are a little more principled, and a little more virtuous than the rest of humanity. But Paul outlines God's condemnation of the intent of man's heart. He details in sober terms the inner thoughts of man's mind and he records in stark language what God thinks of man's actions, man's attitudes, man's words, and fallen man's sinful state: "As it is written, there is none righteous, no - not even one." God's declaration of the whole of humanity is GUILTY. Guilty before God. Measured against the goodness of God, humanity stands condemned. When compared with the righteousness of Christ Jesus our Lord, the whole world is guilty before God. Imputed sin and inherited sin is the birthright of all mankind, for sin has affected the warp and woof of the genetic make-up of every man and woman born into this human race. We are not sinners because we sin - we sin because we are sinners by birth, guilty before God: "For as it is written, there is none righteous, no - not even one." Source: https://dailyverse.knowing-jesus.com/romans-3-10 unquote Do you agree with this? What's your view?

No, I'll leave that to the nutcases and terrorists. I prefer our country where some people don't mind talking out their differences. Romanism is one of the worst things that happened to the western world in the last 1,700 years. Before 312 A.D. they threw Bible believers into the lion's den at the Colliseum in Rome. When Constantine was allegedly converted to Christianity in 312 A.D., he legalized it and gradually the papacy began with the first official "Pope" around 500 A.D. Over the centuries millions of people had it imposed on them by decree and millions more fell for the new religion that has little resemblance to what Jesus and the apostles taught in the New Testament. Jesus wore some rags and walked around in sandals and had nothing. Popes have been carried by a dozen men on their shoulders in fine decorated garments and control billions of dollars and ruled the western world. They appointed kings and emperors. Ordered crusades to conquer their enemies. Directed the Holy Roman Inquisition that tortured and executed heretics and Jews for centuries. Hardly something that the humble Jesus would do or have any part in. Jesus was crucified for claiming to be the Son of God. Without any sanction in the N.T. the Popes claimed to be another Christ or in fact God on earth. Almighty rulers of mankind on earth? Do you believe it? Read the history and find out. Do you think there is any resemblance to what Jesus taught? Why don't you read the New Testament and tell me what you think. Am I right or wrong? I am open to serious discussion on that. In any case, why are we in Canada subsidizing that false system with RC schools and a 35 million dollar papal visit. I thought all religions were equal as far as government was concerned and none were supposed to be supported by taxpayers. But we find out now our supposedly democratic system is more of a Papal autocracy, but never mentioned. See no evil, speak no evil. Just keep the cash flowing for it. What would Jesus say? Do you think Politicians fawn over the Pope? Who is in charge here?

Romanism is a descriptive word that is historically accurate. That's were it all began, in the Roman Empire by Emperor Constantine. Tell me one thing about it that will save you from damnation? Since you seem to be a big defender of it, maybe you should seriously read the New Testament and compare Romanism with the actual truth. The Bible makes it clear salvation (going to heaven instead of hell) is not by belonging to a church, not by being baptized, not by following some church ordained sacraments, or believing in things that are not taught in the Bible. There is only one way to get to heaven and avoid hell and its not by one's good works or a religious system like Romanism. "36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. " John 3:36 KJV "12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. " Hebrews 9:12 KJV People that have been indoctrinated or learned Papal teaching are in a difficult position because they need to learn what the Bible really teaches and how what they have been taught is wrong and contrary to the Bible. Home Page | Let the Bible Speak (ltbs.tv)

Why do you think all taxpayers should pay for one particular religion especially? I thought this was supposed to be a fair country for all.

No, we don't need violence. Why would you think of that? How about peaceful conversation or is that not in your thinking? We live in a democracy with freedom of speech and thought. Romanism won't save anybody from hell. The Bible makes that clear. Don't believe me. Read your New Testament. Or would you rather nobody warn you of possible damnation?

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Tell us how Romanism gives people eternal life. Let's be honest here. Do you really believe any religion can save a person or sincerity or good works? Tell us what you believe instead of beating around the bush. "5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. " 2 Timothy 3:5 KJV The problem with false religion is it deceives people and gives them a false hope. False religion closes people's minds to the truth taught in the Bible.

Sort of like the FNs. We will pay and pay forever. In the 1800s, the population of Canada was very small and the number of Catholic run hospitals would have been very small. Today there are countless Catholic schools and paying for that would be very expensive. I don't really see how the taxpayers today owe the Catholic church anything. They are the richest corporation in the world worth billions. Just my two cents worth. If anything the Vatican owes Canada billions for the money that has been paid to FNs for the residential school fiasco the last few years or so. Government has paid billions while the Vatican has paid what? Anything?

Trudeau received his secondary education at a Jesuit-founded college, Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf. It interesting to note this college was founded by the Jesuits and is operated according to their philosophy and principles. Their website says: " Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf was founded by the Jesuits in 1928. Continuing the pedagogical tradition they have cultivated, we dedicate ourselves: the integral development of the person, especially intellectual capacities; the acquisition of knowledge and judgment; the promotion of humanistic values. Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf is one of the best educational institutions in North America. Securities The pursuit of excellence Passion for knowledge and truth The acquisition of rigorous intellectual training The sense of surpassing The development of autonomy Self-knowledge The ability to think A sense of responsibility The culture of critical and independent thinking The maturation of judgment The meaning of human solidarity Attention to others The search for equity Responsible citizenship and participation in the progress of society The search for the universal Recognition of human unity and diversity Openness to the world The spirit of tolerance." Mission | Brébeuf (brebeuf.qc.ca) Of course all these principles are under girded by the one basic principle that the Roman church is the only true church and every individual should be subject to it. That goes without saying. It does not mention the Bible or Biblical truth once. Entirely a humanist ideology. Nothing Christian about it. Entirely worldly.

Of course if the majority supports funding one religion and excluding all others, that's what the people get, a corrupt system. That has not produced a better society but a corrupt society as we see. Canada is not a better place for it.

Are you sure funding Catholic schools by the government is protected by the Constitution or just the right to have Catholic schools? That is blatant discrimination against other religions and schools. There should be no system that funds only Catholic schools. That should be changed. Wonder how they justify funding the Pope's visit for 35 million dollars.

I speak about the system in general which has a history of anti-Christian behavior with around 1,700 years of persecution of "heretics", anyone who questioned it (bible believers), Jews, etc., and almost all teachings are unbiblical. Hundreds of years of the Inquisition. I don't speak about individuals because there may be some individuals who are genuine believers. Only God knows. The problem is the system does not teach the true gospel but is a false system. One would think anyone who believes the true gospel in the Bible would come out of it and reject it.

Making taxpayers pay for the Papal system just another thing that proves it is not a Christian system. "16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:16-20

So you accuse anyone of being anti-Catholic who questions government taking money from everyone else's pocket for your Papal system. Yes, I am opposed to the criminal corruption going on. To bad you have no sense of morality.

Yes it is. Part of the problem it is happening in many provinces and the federal government paid 35 million dollars for the Pope's visit. The funding of Catholic schools is all part of the same problem of the federal and provincial governments using taxpayer's money to fund the Roman church/religion in Canada. It's happening at provincial levels and the federal level. If you look at the countries where Romanism was the major religion, like Mexico, central and south America, Spain, Portugal, Italy, France, etc. you will notice they are more backward, more crime with the drug trade, mafia in Italy, cartels in Mexico, poorer in general, and not as advanced as Protestant countries such as the UK and America. How much of the wealth of central and south America and other countries was sucked out of those countries and made the Vatican the richest corporation in the world. Yes, it was allowed to develop over history. But those in power did nothing to stop it, probably because of politics. Canada does not have true separation of church and state and true freedom of religion if it favours and funds one particular religion above all the rest.

No, it is a federal issue in the sense it is happening in many provinces. As I said if you had read it, it happens in Ontario, Saskatchewan, Alberta, the three territories, and probably Quebec. So it is multi provinces or federal. The Constitutionality will probably have to be ruled on by the federal Supreme Court, although I doubt they will be fair. The Supreme Court is likely mostly Papists and is largely appointed by Papists. Also I said Canada funded the Pope's visit for 35 million dollars which is also a national scam. So it is both a provincial issue and a federal or national issue. Of course it didn't start with Trudeau, but he certainly does not condemn it as he should or try to change things. He has lots to say about everything else that is going on in provinces. Trudeau also paid 35 million for the Pope's visit.

Catholic schools are funded in Ontario, Saskatchewan, Alberta and the three territories and likely in Quebec. Protestant or non-Catholic religious schools are not funded in Ontario. This seems contrary to the Constitution and Charter of Rights in that one religion is given preferential treatment while others are discriminated against. This has a huge negative effect on many non-Catholics because the cost of sending kids to private schools is very high. So middle or low income earners would not be able to afford it in many cases without government funding the schools. Yet everyone must pay taxes to pay for education. This all follows the same agenda we saw with the Pope's PR trip to Canada being covered to the tune of 35 million dollars. As much as Trudeau and liberals put on the act of trying to treat all religions the same and equally, it is obvious they treat one religion more equally than others. Why is that? The reason is obvious. Most of the Liberals are themselves Papists and are using the system to the benefit of their own religion at taxpayer's expense.

"1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. {ordained: or, ordered} 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. " Romans 13:1-4 KJV In case you haven't figured it out yet, Israel is a state or authority which is a higher power ordained of God. Evil doers who attack the state are resisting the ordinance of God as these verses say. If they did not do evil, but lived in peace, they would not have the dire consequences on themselves. It is as simple as that.

When the choice is between dedicated followers of the Devil and someone somewhat opposed to the Devil's agenda, who do you think a Christian should choose? That's a no-brainer. Christians don't have much choice. Democrats support the killing of unborn babies and allowing biological men to use women's washrooms and changing rooms and many other things like sacrificing the country to the climate change gods of environmentalist radicals, and open borders. Why do you support the Devil's agenda?

Still trying to silence others you don't agree with. Your climate change scam is the conspiracy to control the world and set up a new world order with the U.N. at the centre. Too bad you will miss this gem: "5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. {harlots: or, fornications} 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. " Revelation 17:5, 6 KJV

How so? Most conservatives supported amalgamating the old Progressive Conservative Party with the Canadian Alliance to form the Conservative Party of Canada back in the early 2000s. The old PC party was too much like the liberal party and too progressive. You seem to be more of a liberal than a conservative. There wasn't much difference between the old PC party and liberals. They were more of a central Canada party that neglected the western provinces. The new CPC is more pro western Canada than the PC party was. So joining the PC and CA made sense. Unfortunately diehard liberals in PC clothing had a hard time accepting it, which seems to include you. I think Kim Campbell is like that. Not sure where Brian Mulroney stands since he was a PC leader. Does he support the CPC or did he decide to distance himself? The Liberals party has had all kinds of ethics breaches with Trudeau. I don't know why you still trust him and think Poilievre is so bad. Doesn't make much sense. Progressivism is actually diabolical with same-sex marriage, abortion, etc. That is one reason I let my membership in the CPC die. I am not a strong fan of PP, but I do see how he is preferable to Trudeau because he opposes a lot of liberalism, state control, and denial of freedom of speech. Trudeau is a strong globalist and a Romanist, meaning he supports no borders and supports U.N. control. He also has a history of Canada having strong ties to Communist China. That is insane. Supporting liberalism or NDP is the same as supporting Orwell's 1984, Big Brother. This is where it is all heading: "5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. {harlots: or, fornications} 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. " Revelation 17:5, 6 KJV