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If according to you there is no God, what is your standard or basis for determining right or wrong? By what standard or reference do you come to the conclusion that individual choice to commit suicide or doctor-assisted suicide is moral or right? By what or whose authority would MAID be right or moral? Would it be right for some medical professional or relative or friend to suggest to someone who is mentally-challenged they have the option of MAID?

Wow! I have news for you. quote The Supernatural in the Natural The universe is objectively unnatural; it is astonishingly supernatural!! We have lived in this naturalistic world for so long that we forget that it is an unnatural world to begin with. It is unnatural to get something from nothing. It is unnatural to have a whole ocean of distinct, finely calibrated, subatomic particles materializing from nothing. It is unnatural to have random and unrelated physical laws governing the universe from nothing. It is even more intriguing for these laws of nature to be fine-tuned to sometimes one in a million million part to birth a life-permitting universe from nothing. And it is even more mind-boggling for these laws of nature to be exquisitely fine-tuned to each other to sustain this universe from nothing. unquote\ - from Darwin's Universe, From Nothing, By Nothing, For Nothing - Survival for Nothing by Yan T Wee available on Amazon quote Arguments for theism and against atheism Watch this page Anselm of Canterbury's version of the ontological argument appeared in his work Proslogium. The majority of philosophers of religion, or those who have extensively studied the issue of the existence of God, are theists (72 percent).[1] In relation to the debate between theism and atheism, theists often criticize atheism as being contrary to persuasive argument and have a number of arguments against atheism. Within Christendom, the discipline of Christian apologetics has been developed. Christian apologetics is the defense of the Christian faith through logic/evidence based arguments. The word apologetics comes from the Greek word apologia (from Greek ἀπολογία), which means "speaking in defense". Arguments for the existence of God include: Teleological argument: The universe exhibits overwhelming evidence of deliberate, intelligent, purposeful design, which implies an intelligent designer. See also: Arguments against evolution and Origin of life Evidential apologetics is an approach in Christian apologetics which emphasizes the use of evidence to demonstrate that God exists and that there is compelling evidence to support Christianity and the Bible. In addition, there are various arguments that atheists or other unbelievers weigh evidence improperly (see: Atheism and evidence). Moral argument. Objective morality exists. Atheism lacks objective moral standards. Not possessing a coherent basis for morality, atheists are fundamentally incapable of having a coherent system of morality (See also: Atheism and morality and Atheist population and immorality and Atheism and hedonism and Atheist hypocrisy) .[2] Atheism leads to moral and cultural decline (see: Atheism and culture). Cosmological argument: Every event in our universe necessarily has a cause. However, it is impossible that there should be an unending chain of causes going back. Therefore, there necessarily must be a cause distinct from the universe as we know it which is capable of causing all things and is itself uncaused. Atheism denies that that first cause is God. Christians point out that the question "Who created God" is an illogical question.[3] See also: Atheism and the origin of the universe Historical arguments for the existence of God (subset of evidential apologetics). For example, arguments stemming from historical accounts such as Christian historical apologetics, Christian legal apologetics and archaeological evidence such as Bible archaeology Bible prophecy Atheism and presuppositional apologetics Ontological argument Atheism and irrationality - Atheism cannot account for the laws of logic, consciousness or human reason. Atheism and the Problem of Evil (see also: Atheism and gratitude and Atheism and Hell) Atheists lack a coherent and compelling ultimate basis for knowledge. See: Atheism and epistemology Atheism is an unnecessarily limiting view of the world (see: Atheism is an unnecessarily limiting view of the world). Common arguments against atheism unquote Arguments for theism and against atheism - Conservapedia The following website explains why you should believe the Bible. The KJV is 100% accurate and based on the original Greek and Hebrew manuscripts. Why should I believe the Bible? | GotQuestions.org The Bible begins with the assumption that God is. It does not attempt to try to prove the existence of God because it is inspired by God himself. Since God is omnipotent (all powerful), he has no reason to try to convince man that he exists. He created mankind. Why would the Creator have to get down and beg for anyone to believe he is God and exists? It simply would not make sense. No, the Bible simply states he is and goes on from there.

Does anyone have any right to question or oppose the Holocaust? Was that everyone's business or nobody else's business but the Nazis? Seems to me the principles taught in the Bible, as for example, the ten commandments are universal principles that apply to everyone. If those principles apply to everyone then your reasoning is seriously flawed.

God's revelation applies to everyone whether you believe it or not. Personal beliefs are nothing more than personal beliefs. They do not necessarily agree with God's revelation to mankind. Therefore someone who does not believe in God or his written revelation could easily be dead wrong about many things and probably is wrong because he bases his beliefs on his own feelings or on what a non-believing world has said.

"Murder" is a law term that refers to something that is against the law. Although suicide may not be illegal, it is still killing one's self which is playing God. Because something is not illegal, does make it moral or right in God's eyes. When human life ends is God's business, not man's. God created man in his own image and human beings belong to God. Not submitting to God's will, as revealed in his written revelation, the Bible, is rebellion against our Creator.

Trudeau and Liberals have a history of ethics violations and scamming taxpayers. Oink oink

Just using taxpayer's money to help the Liberals get elected. Give your head a shake. The kickback is Liberals getting elected. How much do you think cabinet ministers get paid? Using taxpayer money to help Liberals get elected is a serious abuse of taxpayer's money. That is not democracy either. According to this table of salaries of Senate and H of C, they get paid: ministers $90,400 plus $2,000 car allowance. This is in addition to an MPs salary of $185,800. There are additional payments of thousands of dollars for holding various positions. Indemnities, Salaries and Allowances (parl.ca)

The approx $23,000 went to a PR firm run by Avaro and she worked as a key person on Trudeau's election campaign. She works for the Liberals almost every day on the CBC program Power and Politics.

quote As a new prime minister in 2015, Justin Trudeau set out his expectations for cabinet ministers. “To be worthy of Canadians’ trust, we must always act with integrity,” Trudeau wrote in the introduction to “Open and Accountable Government,” a guide for ministers. It’s not enough, he stated, to be in technical compliance of the law. Rather, ministers must uphold “highest standards of honesty and impartiality,” an obligation that went beyond official duties, Trudeau explained. “Creating the culture of integrity and accountability that allows us to earn and keep the trust of Canadians will require constant attention,” he wrote. unquote Trade Minister Mary Ng should resign | The Star Do I sense hypocrisy?

What is hilarious is some of the Trudeau supporters on here who don't understand why this is a scandal. Thousands of dollars of taxpayer money being paid to a public relations firm run by Amanda Alvaro, who was one of Trudeau's lead campaigners for his election. She is also a well-known liberal defender on the liberal CBC Power and Politics daily program. So taxpayer money was used to campaign for the Liberals and some don't understand the problem. Another article says this is only the tip of the iceberg Tasha Kheiriddin: Mary Ng scandal is but the tip of a terrible iceberg | Montreal Gazette The $22,000 and something of taxpayer money in this case is peanuts compared to the 50 million dollars given to the Aga Khan foundation around the time Trudeau took a trip to the Aga Khan's island, but he never had to resign over that. But it is the principle that taxpayer money is being funded to a PR firm and to people who campaign for Liberals.

The Bible says God is the judge. It would be pointless to speculate on such a thing. It accomplishes nothing.

You may be thinking of the Roman church, which is not actually a biblical church but it did grow to be the major religion in Europe through the ages since the 4th century. After the Roman Empire disappeared in the early centuries A.D., the Holy Roman Church took control of Europe through subservient kings and emperors. They did have crusades in the middle ages and some of it was to resist the takeover or control of the holy lands by the Muslims. There have been struggles in those areas ever since. There have been wars through the centuries for control of different areas or countries. Most of Europe remained in control of the Roman Church until the Reformation 500 years ago when Rome lost control of some countries in northern Europe. The Reformation took place in the 16th century and split a large part of the Roman church within part of Germany, the Netherlands, Scotland, and England becoming Protestant and rejecting Rome and the Pope. The Bible does not teach wars as the way to spread its message. Jesus never taught that wars were the way to spread the gospel. The wars that took place had a lot to do with control of countries, imperialism, self-defence, and power struggles, which has nothing to do with what the Bible teaches. There have been divisions and conflicts between different religions and beliefs down through history as well. Nations do have the right to defend themselves.

Jesus never advocated the use of force to spread his message or gospel. People simply choose themselves what they believe in this world. Those who believe will be saved. (John 3:16, etc.) There would never be the use of force as we see in some Islamic countries. Bible believers support a government that maintains law and order and basic freedoms for the protection of society. But that's as far as it goes. Jesus said my kingdom is not of this world.

"Q: Why does God allow suffering in the world? A: There are no easy answers to the question of the purpose of suffering and evil. The tendency is to blame God for these conditions, but He did not create them. They came as a result of man’s disobedience to God, beginning back in the Garden of Eden; see Genesis 3:16-19. Often suffering and adversity are brought about by disregard of God’s will or by the direct efforts of Satan or by natural disasters in a physical world which is also affected by man’s sin and the resulting judgment. God, however, has offered the most effective solution possible by giving His Son to die for all. Jesus Christ paid the ultimate price when He suffered and died on the cross, having taken upon Himself the sin of the world and all of its horrible consequences. When Jesus returns in power and glory, there will be a new world completely free from sin with its sorrow and suffering (Revelation, chapters 21 and 22). We can be sure that God in His divine purpose desires to bring about in us the greatest good and to allow suffering to be a means of discipline to cultivate love, patience, grace, and faith in our lives. God never asks us to understand; we need only trust Him in the same way that we expect our earthly children to trust our love. Peace comes when we realize we are able to see only a few threads in the great tapestry of life and of God’s plan. Then we can affirm with great joy and assurance that “in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28). The way we react to suffering will determine whether life’s most tragic experiences bring bitterness and despair or become sources of blessing. The greatest joy will come when, in the midst of adversity, we look up into God’s face and say, “I will rejoice in the Lord, I will joy in the God of my salvation” (Habakkuk 3:18). It is then that His promise will be most meaningful, “When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and when you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned; the flames will not set you ablaze” (Isaiah 43:2)." Why does God allow suffering in the world? (billygraham.org)

No need for anyone to choose suicide or medically assisted death. One can call upon Jesus Christ to be with him and give him strength to get through whatever he is facing whether it is emotional distress or physical illness and pain. He has said I will never leave thee nor forsake thee. We can demonstrate, even in our last days and hours, that the dignity of human life should be respected above all and that we trust God and his Son to deliver us. "“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Romans 10:13 KJV "1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." Revelation 21:1-4 KJV

The advocates and supporters of doctor-assisted death are the ones who are saying doctor-assisted death is the dignified way to go, which of course is a misuse of the word dignity as explained in the article. Thousands are falling for it. You replied so quickly, I doubt you even read the article. You remind me of a dog down the street that as soon as he hears me walking by, he barks. Did you reply as soon as I commented without even reading the information or article?

The "death with dignity" movement and there is even an organization that uses that name, are well-meaning people, but terribly misguided. They simply don't understand that the true dignity of a person is not in how a person dies, but in the fact that everyone is created in the image of God. The application of the word dignity to death is a terrible deception and falsehood. Dignity has nothing to do with how a person dies. Death with dignity is a phrase that could not be further from the truth.

Debunking the “Death With Dignity” Myth by Care-Net Blog From CareNet blog Posted by Tiffany Dawson on Aug 10, 2017 7:00:00 AM “Death with dignity” sounds merciful. It sounds peaceful. If I were terminally ill, I wouldn’t want to die a painful death either. I have no doubt that advocates of death with dignity (physician assisted suicide) have good intentions, but beneath the peaceful face of the “death with dignity” movement is a spiritually dark concept that has practical implications. In particular there are two premises in the “death with dignity” concept that are false. The first idea, implied in the movement’s name, is that a person can lose his or her dignity by suffering at the end of life and can regain it by choosing when to die and avoiding suffering. This is not true. According to Merriam Webster, “dignity” means, “the quality or state of being worthy, honored, or esteemed.” What “death with dignity” advocates forget is that, no matter how much suffering the patient is going through, even if they are suffering without hope of survival, these terminally ill patients are still just as valuable and worthy of life as they were before they were suffering. Humans cannot lose their dignity. Dignity is something every human inherently possesses, because we are all made in God’s image. Inducing death, or even letting someone die when that person could live, is an affront to human dignity. It devalues the inherent worth of the individual and says that people can lose their worth or value due to circumstances. But worth is not based on circumstance, it is inherent and cannot be diminished. True “death with dignity” means letting people die naturally only after everything possible is done to save their lives and there is no possible way left of saving them. It means letting natural causes take over, not human intervention. It means the patients themselves or the parents of extremely young patients decide when to let natural causes take over. And it means the medical personnel and loved ones who surround the suffering patients must treat them with love and dignity to the end, no matter how hard it is to care for them. unquote For the rest of the article, go to: Debunking the “Death With Dignity” Myth « Word & Work (wordandwork.org)

There is a call for the Liberals to fix )he broken bail system, but doubt that the Liberals will act. They have a hug-a-criminal mentality. LILLEY: OPP Commish, Premier Ford call for Trudeau to act on justice reform (msn.com) The murder of this police officer is directly related to the Trudeau Liberal's criminal justice system which changed the bail system to give preference to releasing aboriginal offenders on bail. The result of this was also seen a few months ago when a dozen people were murdered in the Cree nation in Saskatchewan by an dangerous aboriginal offender who was released on parole. Parole and bail are not the same, but the consequences of harm to the public are the same. Now this murder of an innocent police officer a few days ago allegedly by a suspect who was arrested and is an aboriginal with a record of violence and guns. Bail reform leading to more repeat offenders on streets: Attorney general | CTV News

Here is a documentary you can watch for free and give you some idea of the life of Jesus. It is 3 hrs. I may watch it again myself. It is called a documentary because it is essentially a fact, not fiction. It may not be exactly as the Bible says but it is close. Movies never are exact copies of the true events. It is called The Life of Jesus. It had 44.7 million views. You can also Google it if this link doesn't work. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Life+of+Jesus+Documentary&&view=detail&mid=05AB73D832D5689852C705AB73D832D5689852C7&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3F%26q%3DLife%2Bof%2BJesus%2BDocumentary%26FORM%3DVRPATC%26form%3DVDMHRS

The Bible is not fiction. It is fact. Don't know what you mean when you say I took what was mine. Before dismissing the Bible, one should really read and study it. A good place to start is the New Testament. Everyone makes their choice. But we will all be accountable after death.

If you think being baptized is a useful insurance policy or get out of jail free card, you are only fooling yourself. quote Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Romans 10:9 KJV That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Titus 3:5 KJV Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Romans 8:1 KJV There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Find spiritual inspiration when - read Today's Bible Verse and the Deovtional Scripture Passage for Today. John 14:6 KJV Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Matthew 7:21 KJV Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Romans 5:8 KJV But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Acts 4:12 KJV Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I disagree. Such kids are being groomed and taught that assisted suicide is acceptable which it is not. They also would naturally draw the conclusion that humans can take human life of other people and they will learn suicide is an acceptable way to end one's life. This kind of brainwashing is to teach young people and society that what is going on with assisted suicide is acceptable. This is wrong.

I skimmed through it. It obviously is designed to brainwash kids into accepting MAID as normal and acceptable which it is not. Did you read my quote about mankind created in the image of God?

A great resource for what? To brainwash young kids into believing the lie that assisted suicide is normal and acceptable of course. What else? "Created in the Image of God The value of human life is intrinsic, for it derives from God, who made human beings in his own image (Gen. 1:26–27). Consequently, the person who takes the life of another will be held accountable and punishable by God through his human representatives (Gen. 9:5–6; Rom. 13:1–7). The sixth commandment, “You shall not murder” (Ex. 20:13), and its explanation in Exodus 21:12–32 clearly teaches this. The Hebrew word for “murder” (ratsakh) in Exodus 20:13 not only refers to intentional killing (e.g., Jer. 7:9; compare Ex. 21:12, 14, 20) but also to human death caused by carelessness or negligence (e.g., Josh. 20:3–6; compare Ex. 21:13). It is important to note, however, that in the Old Testament, the prohibition against taking a person’s life is to be understood as the taking of life outside of the boundaries set by God (such as capital punishment or war). With this basic principle of the value of human life in place, we will consider a number of ethical issues concerning the beginning and the end of life such as abortion, euthanasia, and the treatment of children, the disabled, and the elderly." The Value and Dignity of Human Life | ESV.org Note: I don't agree that anyone should use the ESV which I believe is a corrupt version in many ways, the information in the article I can agree with. The KJV is the only real inspired accurate version.