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Ah but the gentiles have been included in the picture if they repent and believe on Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. The gospel has gone out to the world. The problem is you and most of the world refuse to accept it. So you have not been left out of the picture. While God chose Israel as a nation through the patriarchs of the Jews, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. However, they had faith. Not all people had faith. The Bible says without faith it is impossible to please him. God requires faith. That is the one thing. So the offer is open to the whole world to believe in Jesus Christ. But not all believe. The offer is open to the gentiles too. God gave us his word with the Bible. You reject it at your own peril. He chose Israel to be his vehicle to give his revelation to man in the form of the prophets in the Old Testament and Jesus Christ who came to earth, and died for the sins of mankind. The New Testament is an account of all this. So there is no excuse for rejecting it. I explained in great detail why I am interested in Israel and what goes on there, but you didn't seem to read it or absorb it. Not much more I can do.

You are talking out of both sides of your mouth. You try to justifying the terrorist attack but claim you don't support murder.

You still don't get it. Any perceived injustice does not justify murdering innocent civilians. Did you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? If so you need to read the Bible and believe it.

That is pure fiction. You try to use the Bible to support your idea but totally ignore the Bible when it comes to terrorism. Now you are saying terrorism and murder of innocent civilians is justified on the basis of some grievances that Palestinians have. That kind of thinking is completely supporting evil. You need to give your head a shake and seek some Christian counselling.

Thanks for clarifying your age group. I don't really understand your thinking about showing solidarity with a people who reject Israel's right to exist and support terrorism. That is contrary to the Bible which says love thy neightour and thou shalt not kill. How do you reconcile yours claims with the Bible? Many Palestinians are not peaceful refugees as you call them. There may be some, but they cannot stop the terrorists. Many are supporters of terrorist organizations like Hamas. Hamas attacked Israel when there was no war and in effect committed a grave act of war against innocent civilians and killed around 1,500 civilians and took around 250 hostages. This is not living in peace. This caused an all-out war. Israel has a right to defend itself. Israel is not going to just sit back and let its people be brutally attacked and murdered. You seem to be ignoring reality. I agree with love your neighbour and justice, but justice and love of neighbour does not mean you allow terrorists to attack and kill you and your people. A nation has a right to respond to defend itself and eliminate the threat.

This is an interesting explanation that would mean something to Bible-believing Christians: quote Israel – a Blessing to the Nations Some 3,500 years ago God made an unconditional covenant with His chosen servant Abram (later called Abraham). The primary part of this covenant was that through Abram’s descendants all the nations for all time would be blessed. God said to Abram: In you all the families of the earth will be blessed (Gen 12.3) In your descendants all the nations of the earth shall be blessed (Gen 22.18) So how are the nations blessed? Tracing through the descendants of Abraham we find that the tribe of Judah is given ‘royal lineage’ in terms of a scepter (Gen 49.10). This symbolized kingship and led to the royal house of David. Following the genealogies from David in the book of Matthew we come to Joseph the husband of Mary who bore Jesus. God gave Jesus the throne of David (Lk 1.32), but Jesus’ mission at that time was the reconciliation of sinful mankind to God. Through Christ’s death on the cross, everyone who believes in Him – the resurrected Christ – and follows Him is reconciled to God. Jesus said: Salvation is of the Jews (Jn 4.22) That is the first and foremost blessing of the nations. Israel’s primary purpose, her primary reason for existence, was to bring salvation to the world through Christ. A Blessing on Israel: With this historic mission for Israel in view, God blessed this embryo nation – the children of Israel – as they made their exodus from Egypt under Moses. Listen to the beautiful singing of this blessing in the book of Numbers, chapter 6 verses 24-26: A Song of the LORD’s Blessing upon Israel. Sung in both Hebrew and English “The Lord bless you and keep you; The Lord make His face shine upon you, And be gracious to you; The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, And give you peace.“ unquote What is God's Purpose for Israel | Why does Israel exist? (factsaboutisrael.uk)

Just curious what grade are you in? You seem very young to be on a political forum like this.

What happens in Israel will have major implications for the world. Israel is historically a very important nation. According to the Bible, God chose the Jews as his special people and gave them the land of Israel for perpetuity. God used the Jews to write the Old Testament. Jesus Christ was a Jew and was crucified and raised from the dead in Israel. The Bible prophesies that Israel will be at the centre of an Armageddon at some point. It is also the place where Jesus Christ is prophesied to return. The Jews, Muslims, and Christians all claim holy sites within Israel. "According to the Book of Revelation in the New Testament of the Christian Bible, Armageddon (/ˌɑːrməˈɡɛdən/; from Ancient Greek Ἁρμαγεδών (Harmagedṓn),[1][2] Late Latin: Armagedōn,[3] from Hebrew: הַר מְגִדּוֹ‎ Har Məgīddō) is the prophesied location of a gathering of armies for a battle during the end times, which is variously interpreted as either a literal or a symbolic location. " Armageddon - Wikipedia So there is good reason to be interested in what is going on there.

One other thought. Hitler and the Nazis were leading anti-Semites through the 1930s and WW2 and committed the Holocaust against millions of them. After Hitler died and even after all his war crimes and genocide against the Jews, this is what the dictator of Spain said about Hitler: "Francisco Franco, Head of Spain, allegedly said on 3 May 1945:* Adolf Hitler son of the Catholic Church died while defending Christianity. It is therefore understandable that words cannot be found to lament over his death, when so many were found to exalt his life. Over his mortal remains stands his victorious figure. with the palm of the martyr, God gives Hitler the laurels of Victory."

No, there was no "good reason". As I said many times, man is corrupt and has an evil heart. One website explains it a bit. quote Anti-Semitism, sometimes called history’s oldest hatred, is hostility or prejudice against Jewish people. The Nazi Holocaust is history’s most extreme example of anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism did not begin with Adolf Hitler: Anti-Semitic attitudes date back to ancient times. In much of Europe throughout the Middle Ages, Jewish people were denied citizenship and forced to live in ghettos. Anti-Jewish riots called pogroms swept the Russian Empire during the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, and anti-Semitic incidents have increased in parts of Europe, the Middle East and North America in the last several years. The term anti-Semitism was first popularized by German journalist Wilhelm Marr in 1879 to describe hatred or hostility toward Jews. The history of anti-Semitism, however, goes back much further. Hostility against Jews may date back nearly as far as Jewish history. In the ancient empires of Babylonia, Greece, and Rome, Jews—who originated in the ancient kingdom of Judea—were often criticized and persecuted for their efforts to remain a separate cultural group rather than taking on the religious and social customs of their conquerors. With the rise of Christianity, anti-Semitism spread throughout much of Europe. Early Christians vilified Judaism in a bid to gain more converts. They accused Jews of outlandish acts such as “blood libel”—the kidnapping and murder of Christian children to use their blood to make Passover bread. These religious attitudes were reflected in anti-Jewish economic, social and political policies that pervaded into the European Middle Ages. Anti-Semitism in Medieval Europe Many of the anti-Semitic practices seen in Nazi Germany actually have their roots in medieval Europe. In many European cities, Jews were confined to certain neighborhoods called ghettos. Some countries also required Jews to distinguish themselves from Christians with a yellow badge worn on their garment, or a special hat called a Judenhut. Some Jews became prominent in banking and moneylending, because early Christianity didn’t permit moneylending for interest. This resulted in economic resentment which forced the expulsion of Jews from several European countries including France, Germany, Portugal and Spain during the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries. Jews were denied citizenship and civil liberties, including religious freedom throughout much of medieval Europe. Poland was one notable exception. In 1264, Polish prince Bolesław the Pious issued a decree allowing Jews personal, political and religious freedoms. Jews did not receive citizenship and gain rights throughout much of western Europe, however, until the late 1700s and 1800s. unquote Anti-Semitism - Definition, Meaning & Reasons For (history.com) When Constantine legalized Christianity about 313 A.D., it became the state religion throughout the Roman Empire. The Jews had a different religion.. Judaism. For some reason, when the majority of people follow a certain religion, especially in ancient times, they seem to become very intolerant of the minority who have a different religion. When the Roman Empire legalized Christianity, a new kind of Christianity formed, which involved having a Pope in Rome in the Roman or western region and a different but similar Christianity in the Eastern or Orthodox (Greek) region. I think they were united until about the 10th century when there was a big split between east and west. But for some reason they regarded Jews as aliens or a threat. So the anti-Semitism seems to have had its root in the Roman Catholic Church in Europe. But anti-Semitism also developed in other areas such as Russia. Part of it may be because the Jews crucified Jesus Christ or that is what was believed. So I believe the Roman church blamed the Jews, which is contrary to the Bible. This was hatred. Jews were persecuted down through the centuries for simply being Jews. The Jews were firm believers in their own religion of Judaism. The Catholics, which was a kind of corrupt form of Christianity, developed a lot hate toward the Jews and the persecutions went on for centuries to varying degrees. The Jews suffered immensely. Nazi Germany decided to eliminate them completely and managed to commit genocide against about two-thirds of the Jews in Europe. Hitler had hired expert propaganda anti-Semites, even a theologian named Gerhard Kittel, to publish articles which would brainwash the population against the Jews. These articles used a corrupt form of science and religion to paint the Jews as evil people and inferior to the Aryans or Germanic race.

We know Arabs are semites too. But when speaking about antisemitism, everyone know it's referring to the Jews. That is a no-brainer. Why pretend it doesn't exist in a major way? It has been going on for 1,500 years or more. Do you think the Nazis and all the antisemitism in the world refers to the Arabs too? Seriously! Where have you had your head? Antisemitism against the Jews is widespread in the world and has been for at least 1,500 years. Why pretend it is uncommon? The U.N. is full of countries that are antisemitic and anti-Israel. That is a proven fact. The mainstream media is not particularly supportive of Israel either. In fact the liberal party and Canadian government has a history of not supporting the Jews very well. Quite a few died in the Holocaust from the motor vessel St. Louis that Canada turned away around 1939. But it was easy for former Nazis to immigrate into Canada after WW2. The same could be said about yourself. How do you know? I have lots of evidence for what I believe. History is pretty strong evidence. I don't think you have any.

I think they support Israel because that is what the Bible teaches going back several thousand years. As I said, I don't think supporting them brings a fulfillment of prophecy. Prophecy of the future will be fulfilled regardless of what someone does or doesn't do.

Of course I believe in doing things because some things are in accordance with what God teaches. I don't like the phrase "Gods' will"; it sounds a bit like a phrase used in Islam. That's not exactly how a Christian lives. Christians live by grace. There are obviously things in the ten commandments and Bible that nobody should do. Don't think you can deny that. I don't think Christians are called to be an "agent of prophetic fulfillment". That sounds kind of strange. I have never met a Christian who said he was being an agent of prophetic fulfillment. Never heard of it. Yes, I think we are in the last days or end times. Are you ready?

That news link is worded wrong. It is deliberately worded to try to paint a false picture and shows they don't know what they are talking about. Prophecy is not fulfilled because someone believes a certain way. Nobody can make prophecy be fulfilled by their beliefs. That just takes a little logic to see that. Biblical prophecy is God given and only God can fulfill it in his way and in his time. You can't speed events up by what you believe. So it is not a kind of game between bible believers and non-believers. What God ordained will happen regardless of what you and I believe. That's why the wording in your link makes no sense. History for the past 3,500 years proves Israel has a right to exist. Full stop. Why has most of the world been anti Semitic for the past 1,500 or 1,800 years? That is the problem. Man is fallen with a corrupt, evil heart. We saw that in Germany with the Nazis and the Holocaust. But Europe had been discriminating and persecuting the Jews for 1,500 years prior to the Holocaust. That alone is one good reason why they needed their own land back to have a safe sanctuary from the anti Semites of the world. Then you have Islam which two billion people follow and which is totally opposed to the Jews and Israel. There is no compromising with those people either. They will not tolerate Jews because it goes against their own religion. Muslims see Israel as a threat to Islam because Islam seized areas in Israel roughly 1,300 years ago as places where they claim supernatural events occurred and therefore they are now holy to Islam, ie. the Dome of the Rock. Jerusalem was the capital of Israel several thousand years ago. Since Islam moved in centuries ago, now it is claimed by Muslims.

What is God's Purpose for Israel | Why does Israel exist? (factsaboutisrael.uk)

Part of the problem is the massive number of immigrants Canada is bringing in every year. I think the Liberals goal is to bring in 500,000 immigrants per year. How is this going to help the housing crisis? Of course it is just going to make it worse.

quote Why is this tiny little nation of just 8 million people so newsworthy? Why is this piece of land just 290 miles (470 km) in length and 85 miles (135 km) in width so important to both Jew and Arab? Why have there been three major wars over tiny Israel since 1948? Why is there continual conflict between Jews and Palestinians? Why does the world dispute Israel’s claim that Jerusalem is her capital? Why is the UN and the media so heavily biased against Israel? Why are there international boycotts of Israeli goods? Why does the Vatican have claims on Jerusalem real estate? unquote What is God's Purpose for Israel | Why does Israel exist? (factsaboutisrael.uk)

No, I'm not saying it is part of Christianity with the exception of missionaries that went out to colonized countries. Colonization is just how the world was settled by humans. Colonization was good for some countries or areas of the world. It did bring a lot of advanced civilization to North America for example. For example it brought health care, medicine to aboriginals, education, and a new way of life. It brought lots of technology and advancements. We think of Africa as a lot of countries, but actually I don't think countries even existed with the borders we have on maps today and separate governments. I believe it was composed of various tribes. Wars between various groups and tribes was common throughout history. The British Empire brought a lot of good things to different parts of the world. In some cases there was exploitation of natural resources and manufactured goods. But I am not judging colonization as a good thing or bad thing. That is just how the world was populated.

Ever heard the Ministry of Health has authority over hospitals?

The BC NDP government Ministry of Health has the power to do whatever they want with the medical system. It requires lots of money and they are divided between many demands. That's why the medical system has doctor and nurse shortages. When you say the government can't do anything about the number of medical schools, medical students, doctors, etc. you look silly. Anybody knows the provincial governments run the medical system.

quote Yes, the British Columbia government can start new medical schools. In fact, the government has already announced its support for establishing a new medical school at Simon Fraser University (SFU) in October 2020 unquote It is obvious to any thinking person that the provincial government can start new medical schools if it wished to. It simply doesn't want to spend the money.

The BC NDP government is responsible for the failing health system and has the power to increase the number of medical school students and graduates. quote One way the province intends to improve staffing long-term is by adding 128 seats at the University of British Columbia's Faculty of Medicine. "This means we will see more doctors graduating from the program, and that is very good news for people in every corner of British Columbia," Kang said. Officials said 40 undergraduate seats and 40 family medicine residency positions will be added in fall 2023, and another 48 residency positions will be phased in by fall 2028. unquote B.C. shares 70-point strategy for strained health-care system | CTV News The problem is entirely the BC NDP government's fault. They have done little and continue to do very little to meet the health care demands and crisis.

Completely false. In B.C. the NDP government has not started any new medical schools during their time in office even though many British Columbians are struggling to find a family doctor. So they provided a small amount of money as start up funding for a new medical school, but it is obviously far less than what is needed and the school will not be able to provide any doctors until 2030. Wow, what a failure! Too little, too late. "Premier David Eby announced on Monday the province is providing up to $4.9 million in start-up funding for the new school and Dr. Roger Strasser has been retained by SFU as the interim dean. “While we have made enormous progress to strengthen public healthcare over the last five years, we know that many British Columbians are struggling to find a family doctor and waiting too long for care on a waiting list or in an emergency room,” Eby said. “This investment in the first entirely-new medical school in Western Canada in 55 years will mean more family doctors graduating each year to provide care for people.” The timeline on the new hospital has been altered various times since it was announced during the October 2020 election campaign. Originally a government press release quoted Health Minister Adrian Dix saying “the first graduating class could be 2023-24.” That has since been changed online to state “the first class would begin in 2023-24.” The announcement on Monday provides further clarity on the timeline and will mean doctors will not be in the work force until closer to 2030. There are currently nearly one million British Columbians without a family doctor. unquote Launch of new B.C. medical school at SFU delayed to 2026 | Globalnews.ca

Your first sentence tells what kind of character you are. Of course the government is responsible for the medical schools, number of doctors and nurses. It is all part of the health care system which the government controls. The government has the power to determine how many medical schools exist and everything else. Medical schools and associations are not sovereign countries. Wake up!

The government is entirely responsible for the mess. They seized control of the health care for Canadians. That makes them completely morally responsible to provide it. Saying that it is not the government's fault that there are not enough doctors and nurses, etc. is a cop-out. The government is the one responsible as they control the system.