blackbird

dialamah, "more women die and no more babies are saved". That doesn't make much sense. I would disagree that "no more babies are saved". If it is illegal, abortion is not going to be nearly as frequent as it is now. More resources could be put into supporting the pregnant mother and helping to adopt the baby out if that is what the woman wishes. Thousands of unborn baby's lives could be saved if the emphasis and education was opposed to abortion. Society has gone in a totally wrong direction. If you look at Statistics Canada website, the caucasian race is actually in decline in some western countries. I think to survive a race requires a minimum of 1.9 children per family to survive and not decline toward extinction. In British Columbia I believe the reproduction rate for caucasians is below 1.9. This is not mentioned on mainstream media because of politically correct considerations, but caucasians are in decline in some places. Could this be partly because of high abortion rates?

dialamah, there are several assumptions you make. First you say "laws against it will not stop that". You gave no evidence to support that. If abortion is illegal, it then becomes far more difficult to obtain. More importantly, it sends a message that society does not condone it and discourages it. So the number of abortions, which is currently around 100,000 per year I believe in Canada, may drop drastically. This could save tens of thousands of lives of unborn babies. "it reduces the control men have traditionally had over women". You lost me on that one. It might be the other way around. A man could be held responsible for child maintenance if he doesn't want to marry the woman. If they are already married, there is no issue of control that I can see. Having children is a natural function of human nature. The idea that it is somehow contrary to human nature is incorrect. Perhaps feminists have somehow been led to believe it is an undesirable burden, when in fact, for many couples, it is a happy event. When you say "men are quite happy when women abort the babies", I would say that might be true in some cases but for many it is just part of life. Men should take the assume the responsibility. It is just as much theirs as the woman's. If the woman doesn't want the baby, she should consider giving it up for adoption. There are lots of couples looking for a newborn baby. She may even feel better for doing that in the long run. Society should give women all the support they need in such situations.

"pro enslavement" is a new term I have never heard. Trying to defend human life is not enslavement. People need to show as much concern for the life of the unborn child as they do for women's rights. Thank you for clarifying it is a party policy. Yes I understand that part of democracy. It is a Canadian tragedy that government and courts endorse it. All human life is sacred. The Squid, "I don't get to decide for everyone else". We live in a parliamentary democracy where laws are enacted and courts rule on such issues, and we as citizens have a right to give our input to the decision-making process. So we do in fact have a say on the issue. As far as I am concerned, it is a responsibility for me to speak out for the unborn child who cannot speak for themselves. If you asked the unborn child whether he or she wishes to be aborted, what do you think the answer would be?

Well, there are a certain number of Conservatives who are pro life. I don't know the number. I think the NDP is universally pro abortion or pro choice as they prefer to be called. But with Trudeau's policy, almost every Liberal MP must be pro abortion. Trudeau demonstrates his fanatical pro abortion views by making it a requirement for any Liberal member to be pro abortion. There is no tolerance for an opposing view on this issue in Trudeau's worldview. I am not sure where is he is coming from on this or why.

Feminism describes itself as being the champion of women's rights, which to many if not all feminists, means abortion on demand. Those who believe in the sanctity of life are rejected by the majority of parliamentarians. The PM has even gone so far as to ban any pro life person from becoming a Liberal candidate or MP. To him there is no place in our Canadian parliament for anyone who opposes abortion.

I would take that figure of 84% with a grain of salt. I can't prove it, but I think there are still a lot who would agree with Trump's policies.