Goddess

As you know, it didn't start that way. And this IS what you are advocating for - a visible sign that a person is an outcast and wanting them segregated from society. Why do you think so many unions, groups and legal experts are challenging the passports, which you passionately want? Maybe if you put just a fraction of that passion into demanding the end of healthcare cuts which are leaving hospitals understaffed and closing beds and cutting nurses and doctors.......there wouldn't be a crisis. Especially with the vast majority of the herd vaxxed.

I'm not. I see the similarities in everything you espouse. There are some differences, but there are too many similarities to ignore.

Like most thinking people, I've often wondered why so many of the German public went along with the governmental propaganda which advocated the segregation and social outcasting of the Jews. And I've wondered how I would have reacted? Would I just go along with the propaganda? Would I rationalize that it was for the good of society? Would I disagree but keep my mouth shut about it? This has sure cleared up any lingering doubts I had about whether I would blindly follow government propaganda and participate in the outcasting and segregation of certain of my fellow citizens and denying them of basic human rights, such as healthcare and employment. I also see in plain black and white English right here, the thinking that leads to such tragedies and the stark refusal to see anything other than the propaganda or address any of the arguments. Just "The unvaxxed are killing the vaxxed and our economy and life as we know it. They must be stopped, shut out of society and outcasted."

Finally. You get the point. With so many vaxxed and the vax being of course, the cure for covid, there really shouldn't be a problem.

I guess you have forgotten that they did this at the beginning of covid too. Made the beds available by not filling them and postponing surgeries in anticipation of large numbers of covid patients. When that didn't happen, they opened them back up. Since there is now around 80% vaccinated, I'm not sure why they are doing this again. There should be LESS covid patients now, yes? I mean, the vaccine is working and no vaxxed persons are using ICU's, yes?

It was on the AHS website. Still there, actually. 8500 beds in acute care and 98.5% of them are available.

Maybe he doesn't just read the government-paid-for mass media? Maybe he considers other viewpoints, perspectives and experiences? Maybe he is able to use common sense and rational thinking more so than you are?

I have it saved to my phone so I will try to post that for you, although I don't imagine it will make any difference to you.

OK. Occupancy is higher than in the spring. We're getting into flu season again. There is still 98.5% of acute care beds available. And you're calling for denial of healthcare and sending anyone not vaxed to refrigerated coolers. And you ignore information that healthcare budget cuts and dismissals of doctors and nurses are likely a major factor here, as well. I think you'd do better to demand that be resolved than call for concentration camps for the un-vaxxed. Your reaction is over-the-top. When someone bumps into you accidently, do you also stab them to death? When your kids spilled a drink, did you beat them senseless? You seem like that kind of person.

The same day they announced that hospitals were overflowing, I went on AHS's website which is updated daily. That was Sept. 8. It said that of 8500 acute care beds, 98.5% of them were "open and available." 2 days later on Sept 10, the update was exactly the same - 98.5% of beds available. Of my friends who are nurses, including a close relative, they all say the government is not necessarily lying, but not telling the truth either. They ARE getting burnt out. The initial covid wave was hard on them but now it's the fact that provinces have cut back on health care, letting doctors and nurses go and they are severely understaffed. They also tell me that the lack of beds in some hospitals is not due to covid, but again - due to governmental cutbacks.

And the guilt-tripping/shaming/blaming is laughable coming from someone who admitted here that she barely washed her hands during the height of covid. Sorry, but that's Basic Hygiene 101 and taught to most children. I've travelled enough in my lifetime that I'm religious about washing hands and have been even more so during covid. If you really cared about others, hand-washing is simple.

Don't be so smug. Your chances aren't much better than mine. And no one knows what you've opened yourself up for in the future.

And opiates in more recent times.

At least I'm researching my choice. If the predictions by many doctors and scientists are true and the long-term effects of an experimental vaccine forced on the public include critical heart conditions and a surge in cancers and ICU's and hospitals being inundated by the cases, just remember that you and Boges choose to be placed in refrigerated coolers where dead bodies belong.

The threat is miniscule to the average person, but people like Boges and Dialamah want everyone lined up in front of a firing squad. She has more sympathy for terrorists than people who are vax- hesitant.

I believe it's way past the time to re-evaluate how we are dealing with covid. You should listen to Bret and Heather Weinstein podcasts on it. You'd think very differently about your proposal to ship perfectly healthy people off to concentration camps for not getting the vax. From the start, we've known the benefits of taking Vit. D, C and zinc for covid prevention and yet this low-hanging fruit is not even being discussed in the media or by public health officials. Why not?

I think one of the (many) strangest things about this whole covid situation is the people who previously were very vocal about how "Mainstream media is bad, lying, biased, bought by the government" and "Big Pharma is bad, killing people, only out for it's own money interests." Suddenly, to these same people, mainstream media is the only one telling the truth and Big Pharma is great and only wants the best for us all. It's really quite an about-face in a very short time and baffling to me.

Like any illness or disease, I'm sure it sucks to be in that percentage.

For an illness with a mortality rate of less than 1%? ?

No. Because vaccinated people are not eradicating the virus with the vaccine when they contract it, it is mutating. This is how viruses work. The vaccine should have been an "in-between" measure to keep those most vulnerable safe, until a true vaccine could be developed. This isn't even a true vaccine.

It's science. Are we now throwing out the window everything we've ever known about viruses? A vaccine must completely eradicate a virus, or else it mutates. The vaccine does not, and was never intended to eradicate the virus, only lessen the symptoms. Such a vaccine allows the virus to mutate. This is why many doctors and scientists are speaking out against mass vaxxing for Covid and only recommending it for those most at risk - the elderly, obese and others with underlying health conditions.

No. Vaccines drive viruses to mutate. The Covid vaccine was never meant to block the virus completely, only lessen the symptoms. As a result, it's the vaccinated people who are driving the mutations. This is why we are always told to finish an antibiotic regimen - so that the virus is completely eradicated and does not have a chance to mutate. Viruses mutate to evade the vaccine and thus becomes more difficult to treat. Vaccinated people are serving as breeding grounds for the mutations. Whether you are going to get one of the mutations or not has little to do with the antibodies from the vaccine - it has everything to do with your T-cells. This means booster shots are not going to help - they don't strengthen your T-cells. Be prepared for a vaccine booster merry-go-round - great business profits for Pfizer. By this time next year, after your 4th booster, you will be lashing out at the ones who only had 2 boosters. 2 years from now after your 10th booster, you'll be lashing out at the ones who only had 4. Wake up.

Agreed. The issues I see popping up though are, vaccine efficacy is very low. 4-6 months. And you can still catch and carry/spread covid when vaxxed. I see people buying a ticket to a major event and then being denied entry because their vaccine passport "expired" 2 days before. I don't see the passports being any safer than masking, washing hands regularly and social distancing. I think it's just the illusion of safety, that the chicken little crowd wants.

As I said, the risk of either is infinitesimally small. I never said "the same". I said both are low risk. For me. Why you would be "skeptical" of anyone talking to their doctor about covid and not mentioning it until the conversation allows it, is "sinister" thinking, IMO.

Just because I'm not fanatical about forcing everyone to vax and propose denying healthcare to those who choose not to (for whatever reason), doesn't mean I think Covid isn't serious or the vax is more deadly, either. Conversation progresses. There was nothing "sinister" about not mentioning a conversation with him before.