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As do you. The fact that you "smile" when you do it, doesn't change that you do it. And Dia....she's a master at insults. But I don't see you counselling her.

China is 80% vaccinated. And they are doing that. Why do you think it would be different here? Especially in the climate of terror you are buying into. It's the fearmongerering and abject terror that makes any civilization commit atrocities. No, I don't think Canadians are immune to this flaw in thinking. You certainly aren't.

I'm not sure of your mental capabilities, but you seem to keep missing the point. I was talking about removing the established human right to bodily autonomy, not going to a Leafs game. Forcing vaccinations by removing peoples rights to work or restricting normal human activity, when the risk is miniscule and only being used as an excuse, is a violation of human rights.

No. It's the same - the right to choose medically what happens to our own bodies is a human right. What part of that is difficult for you to comprehend?

Great for your friend. I'm happy for her. The vast majority go home - vaxxed or unvaxxed. But a third of the vaxxed are dying and as usual, you and others refuse to address that fact. I picture you and Tree and Boges as pigs, with giant brass rings in your nose, being yanked around by the media and told who to hate, what to fear, what to think and to think and reason no further than what they tell you to.

No one is saying it's a hoax. If that's what you're reading, then I suggest some kind of classes in reading comprehension. Not everyone believes that trying to curb an illness which over 99% of the population survives, is worth flushing already established human rights down the toilet. And with a third of deaths being amongst those vaccinated, all I can say is Really??? Really??? Again, like shooting a bazooka into a crowded room to kill a fly. Damn the future consequences. Right? That's what you're saying. Nothing like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It's a pandemic. Did you think no one was going to die? Do you think coronaviruses are not going to continue killing people in the future? How are you going to stop that? Who is the next group of people you are going to blame? What happens the next time the government and media tell you it's all the fault of a certain group of people and they need to have their human rights removed? Just go along, no questions asked? That seems to be your stance.

I hope that our Canadian right to medical bodily autonomy does not disappear. If we manage to retain it, it will be thanks to people who chose to use it and demand that it be continued. One day you may be thanking them. One day you may feel foolish for advocating it be taken away, even from just "those" people.

Because of the attitudes you are displaying and promoting. Right now, during a pandemic, nurses who want to exercise their human right to bodily autonomy are being fired. Why do you think so many of them are doing this? Do you think part of it may be because they see that the media is deliberately misleading people as to the efficacy of the vaccines and recognize that the vaccine isn't doing what it's supposed to do? Right now, people are losing their jobs for the same reason. In Canada. Fearmongerers like yourself, are cheering. The slippery slope is that the government is preparing ghetto camps for the unvaxxed. And the vaxxed are cheering. You see absolutely NO similarities? One group of people had their human rights removed because of race. Another group is experiencing the same because they choose to exercise an already established human right. Don't forget, when that right to medical bodily autonomy is taken away from some, that same tyranny can and will be used against yourself at another point in time. I get that you are terrified of unvaxxed people. The same way Germans were terrified of Jews. But I don't believe that unvaxxed people should be treated as if they are infected. It seems that some of you do not have the mental capacity to understand the difference between unvaccinated and infected. Or to understand the future ramifications of what you are advocating for now.

How about you answer the question. Do you think it's okay for human rights to be removed if a government and media deem it to be in society's best interest? Many agreed with sterilizing Indigenous people because the government and whatever media at the time convinced them it was for the best. History has proved them wrong and immoral.

Should you also be prevented from going places? Your vaccinated state is no guarantee that you are not a spreader. You want a guarantee, right? Isn't that what you're after?

True. Bust it's MOST likely - over 99% actually - that they will not. Vaccination gives a margin of extra protection. So do a lot of other things. I guess time will tell. But I have a very strong feeling that you are going to end up on the wrong side of history on this one. Taking away of human rights is a fast slippery slope. And again, obvious you and others are being mislead as to the efficacy of the vaccines.

There are lots of avenues to curb communicable diseases. Vaccination is one of them. Obviously it's not a panacea because a third of the deaths are amongst vaxxed people. And frankly, in the last 3 months, I've had to quarantine 3 times for possible covid contact. All three times, it was fully vaxxed people who were the spreaders.

Same shit. Different pile.

In China, they are forcibly grabbing people off the street and injecting them if they don't have the right papers. Do you agree or disagree with that? Is that what you want to see in Canada? Because that's where this is heading.

They had their human rights taken away. Over lies. You do not agree that choosing our own medical procedures is a human right? I suspect that you would have been one of the ones agreeing with forced sterilizations of Indigenous people, as well. You know, for the greater good of society.

Some people are pointing out that this was the start of the Nazi oppression of the Jews. But it wasn't. It was actually a few steps in.

This is just one province, Alberta: 34% of deaths in the last 120 days were vaxxed people. Why doesn't anyone want to talk about that? You would think this would raise some flags, or at least some questions. But Nope.

Sorry, it was a typo. People are NOT being told to isolate while they are immuno-compromised. But thank you, for proving me correct, as none of you were told that either.

So you agree with them that if only 100% would vax, coronaviruses would disappear? ?

In trying to find accurate vax info, I joined a site calling themselves "Evidence Based vaccine information", hoping there would be links and some truth being told. They're all just vaccinated people looking to blame unvaccinated people and there was little in the way of real information. I tapped out of it when there was a whole thread with thousands of comments about how "if we can just get 100% vaxxed, Covid will disappear forever." ? You would like it though. They all want unvaxxed people to have no healthcare, no jobs and are petitioning for them to sent to camps or confined in old sports stadiums. Hooray for ghettos.

It's also a little misleading to call them all "unvaxxed". Anyone with only 1 jab, or having had their second jab less than 2 weeks before are all counted as "unvaxxed." Which means that a certain percentage of vaxxed people are in the ICU's right now but the public believes they are all completely unvaxxed. In the fanaticism to blame the unvaxxed, though, no one seems really interested in separating the real unvaxxed, from the ones with 1 jab and the ones with 2. (Yes, I know there is the odd stat on that, but every facility needs to keep that stat, not just a few.) I've read several times now that you are actually immuno-compromised for the first 2 weeks after the jabs, so I understand why they are counting vaxxed people as unvaxxed if their jab was less than 2 weeks before. But it is also one of the reasons why so many scientists and doctors are saying mass vaccinations DURING a pandemic is a bad idea. I've asked around if when you get the jabs, you are told to isolate and stay home for 2 weeks afterwards, as you are immuno-compromised, but everyone has told me that No, they were not advised that. Which is odd to me. Because when they know people are immuno-compromised for 2 weeks after AND we are in the midst of a pandemic, you would think that would be important advice.

From the AHS website: Look at the percentage of people in ICU with 3 or more pre-existing conditions. Over 75%. And we know many of them were elderly. Based on the severity of their pre-existing conditions many of these ones would be in the ICU anyways, with or without covid. But their deaths are listed as "covid" deaths. This is how the numbers have been inflated and the "emergency" has been created.

I feel like it's the same thing. But yup, let's wait for the result. Let's vax our kids in the meantime, too.

You're right. You very well could be. You seem to lack logic and reason.

Did you even read the article? Myocarditis and heart inflammation is one of the major adverse effects of the vax. Especially for teenage boys. Honestly, you act like 13 year old boys are just dying in their sleep for no reason all over the place. "Geez, can we really say it was the vaccine even though he had the exact adverse reaction they warn about with teenage boys?" Gimme a break.