Boges

I'm a JT cultist? LOL! I've never voted for the Liberals in my life. 

68,000 were due to the lockdowns. 

Yes, lockdowns that didn’t need to take place had we not had to wait until April for any substantial quantities of vaccines.  Wasted months that were paying for now, while other countries have been back to almost normal.  Stop making excuses.

Your petty outrage and my realism get us to the exact same spot. 

It's not good enough to not support JT, you have the REALLY!!!! not support him and not be happy that things are getting back to normal because we should have been inline with the US even though they saw much more death leading to negligible economic advantages and WAY more debt. 

You make it sound like we shouldn’t be allowed to buy cannabis on demand.

Never said that. It's just a crazy world we live in where finding someone to cut your hair is like finding a drug dealer. 

The panel was convened recently and will sit three days a week for six months.

Nice gig. If they don't find something in six MORE months...it'll be plenty of time to invent something.

But Canada will never overtake the U.S. in percentage of citizens and non-citizens receiving two doses in the recommended manufacturer and tested interval.

But as supply grows, it's still a better strategy.

It’s a strategy we were forced into.  The United States has vaccinated the equivalent of Canada’s entire population 4 times.

Yet they still have less than 60% with one-dose. We could see 70% by mid-June. 

There's no question the US has/had the supply. The fact that they're wasting so much vaccine is bordering on criminal, considering how much the rest of the world needs it. 

Getting 80-90% with 60-90% protection before July doesn't sound desperate to me. 

Then why are Canadians going to the U.S. for covid vaccines ?

You just keep making the same point. I've conceded it. The US has ensured their supply. Being the #1 economy in the world gets you that. 

Yes, as cases continue to decline rapidly, many will forgo the vaccine for now.  Also, politicians like to set goals the can easily meet, and then claim success.  This is really a non-story.

"Canada probably won't reach herd immunity against COVID-19 anytime soon" (if ever)....no kidding.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/herd-immunity-threshold-canada-covid-1.6013685

From your citation (which is just an opinion column): 

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In the United States, vaccine hesitancy is increasingly seen as a major and perhaps permanent barrier to herd immunity. The vaccine rollout south of the border got off to a fast start but has been slowing as time goes on and the supply of doses starts to outpace demand.

That's probably why I hear a lot of people are saying they aren't going to bother getting the second dose. Oh well.

Because of the influx of vaccines we're seeing now, the chances people will have to wait four months is unlikely. 

If/when we get another Shipment of AZ, it should go 100% to provide second doses, as their reliability isn't as solid as Pfizer. 

Let's hope you're right. Vaccinate the masses as quickly as possible, so that the herd is immune.

Then I can get back to my normal life.

Regardless, it doesn’t matter if herd immunity is achieved in the fall vs late spring.  Enough people will have been vaccinated or have immunity from being previously infected to result in low level case rates and even lower level death and hospitalization.  This story is just more panic porn.

But are enough people going to get vaccinated? Seems the rate is levelling off in the US. 

I think the variants will play a factor in how effective previous infections protects one. 

Up until recently it was agreed upon that most young people will handle COVID-19 rather well, in most cases. Variants have blown that theory out of the water. 

2-3 million doses expected each week in May. 3 million plus expected in June. 

One dose probably makes milder symptoms as well.

It certainly does. But this is the first study it indicate you're less likely to transmit the virus even with only dose. 

More evidence that getting as many people the first dose is more important than getting people fully vaccinated. 

More evidence of excuses for Trudeau's epic vaccine failure.

Since we're not... no.

Canada is only giving one dose four months apart. No one in the world is waiting four months for a second dose and there's little science behind that decision. 

Getting the most number of people some protection is better than getting half that number full protection. 

At least 65% 

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1068

16+ includes some minors/children and adults too.   Ontario just opened up vaccinations for 40+, not 16+...because there are not enough vaccines available in Canada.   

Yes but Health Canada has not approved any vaccine for people 18+.

So people 18+ aren't getting it because it's not approved for them. Not because there isn't supply. So when considering vaccination rate of those eligible would be a more accurate metric. 

Sort of like when Biden said he wants all people 18+ to be able to book a vaccine if they want it. 

Provinces decide what ages to vaccinate based on approved vaccines...Canada just doesn't have enough doses...even going so far as to stagger 2nd doses way beyond the manufacturers tested/approved interval.   Playing games with numbers will not change Canada's situation and vaccine shortage.

I think many people are simply ignoring the stay at home order. In fact it should be mandatory to go outdoors and get fresh air daily.

It should be. You can also Social Distance outdoors though. 

They're expecting something about restrictions on curb-side pickup now as well. Probably because too many people are waiting in lines outside to get in.

Kinda wondering who is going to use it, what with everyone working at home.

You think it's easy working with a child at home? Especially one that would go to daycare? 

Except when the Lefties stand up to China. Then they're warmongers. 

If China invades Taiwan, what do we do? 

Hey didnt Mr Trudeau recently put his finger up Taiwan presidents ass? He screwed their president, who is a woman, out of an award for her outstanding work.

“Canadian officials, upon learning of the decision, made it clear the Canadian government would pull its support if organizers gave the honour to Tsai, Politico reported.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5984974

#feminist!

There is your answer. I know, sad...

When has the Left stood up against Red China again?

I just watched a great interview with a doctor on Tucker Carlson. He said the issue is giving the vaccine to people that have been previously infected and already have produced antibodies.  He said those people shouldn’t be vaccinated because it can cause an autoimmune response that can lead to blood clots.  

Trump got vaccinated after being infected. 

I don't think there's conclusive evidence that previous infection produces immunity. 

The theory is sound though. As Argus says, there are plenty of common drugs that can cause blood clots. I guess the difference with the vaccine is that you're strongly being encouraged, if not forced, to take it to try and get life back to some sense of normal. 

Regardless it’s still extremely rare.

Lies from lying liars who lie. Here's a link:

EVIDENCE: How CNN Faked A Story About Matt Gaetz, Got Caught, But Still Won’t Remove It.

Now you know why Trump called it fake news.

You can re-train ICU nurses in a year? 

Specifically for covid?  Sure.  If we really wanted to.  But our effort has been piss poor.  Never thinking ahead.  

Say thanks to Trudeau for this.

Yes, do whatever you must to Biden, and our vaccine problems. ??

No, I’m not.  More vaccines earlier is what people were saying more months.  That’s not Monday morning quarterback.

Do you think JT just didn't accept vaccines? The issue is that manufacturing wasn't set up domestically. So they couldn't do what the US did and ban exports. 

Only a handful of countries are benefitting from this. 

The issue was that he was late setting up purchase agreements with vaccine makers.  Argus has outlined this very well in several topic posts with references.

Young people wont stay indoors forever and are going to get exposed. The death rate seems to have gone flat so far, seems like good news for once. 

Let them live on...

Boges is just cheerleading for more leftist liberal shutdown...

Have you seen my post in the Ontario COVID-19 page? I'm not advocating for that. 

Anyone who books that place is almost certainly a rabid Republican anyway.

Always focused on the important issues eh guys! ??

Like Sheet Music being taught at Oxford?