WestCanMan

Compared to you I'm omniscient.

He didn't quarantine travellers from China, he banned people from flying into the US if they had been to China within 14 days. I've typed that about 100x here now. This is old news. 2) Trump allowed Americans to come back to America and be quarantined. He didn't force them to stay in foreign countries and be unable to get medical help in their own country. Shocker. Trump forced non-Americans to wait out the 14 days elsewhere instead of allowing them to become America's problem. That makes sense too. Why should I be able to just leave the country I'm in and force America to take me if I'm carrying a pandemic - that's a completely absurd and idiotic notion. Having people quarantined here in Canada is so much safer for us because we need to bring the virus here to be truly safe from it? And only Canada, in 2020, knows how to quarantine sick people. Every other country would fail to recognize sick people or quarantine them. So brilliant lol. FYI Canada did not even screen passengers from foreign countries. I know people who wandered through YVR without answering any questions at all about their health. It was even on the local news here in BC. We only had voluntary self-quarantine for foreign travellers to Canada right up until March 16th. Returning Canadians are the only people who faced MANDATORY SELF-QUARANTINES and that was after the international travel bans came into effect. Canadians faced up to 6 months in prison and up to $1M in fines if they broke their mandatory quarantines. Like I said before, NYC has up to 11M people there if you include visitors. That's 1/3 of the population of Canada in 800 sq km. Stop making that comparison. It's utterly retarded. Saskatchewan is 650,000 sq km with only 1M people. Chinese and European tourists aren't stupid enough to go to Saskatchewan in January. I think WEM might be the reason for Alberta's high infection rate. Maybe the dorms and mall at U of A. Just a guess.

Our gov't followed the WHO's marching orders to the letter. They're not going to admit that it was the wrong thing to do and the media will never follow up on it. This is a dead story in Canada.

The poster child for the brainwashed CNN mob is talking, I better listen. I can learn about how Trump is known to have colluded with Russia despite the fact that there has never been any evidence of it, just evidence of the Dems/FBI lying to the FISA court and trying to entrap him. And how "Women who are caught lying and making extremely vague, uncorroborated allegations NEED TO BE BELIEVED!" And how Trump was such a lying idiot to say that he was being spied on, even though he actually was being spied on. And how he couldn't defeat islamic state [wrong]. And how blocking potential virus carriers from flying into the country is racist [now everyone is doing it]. And how walls are racist. Etc, etc. You're throwing around the term "brainwashed" lol. Next thing you know AOC will be calling people idiots.

For your edification: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html That's from the CDC. I'm not a virologist or epidemiologist. I don't know why they chose the name Covid for this one and left the other ones in the family with coronavirus, but KC sn't in left field for saying this isn't the first go-round with coronavirus. She just got the name wrong. If we hold Dems to the same standard this thread would be 1,000 pages long. AOC's thread would be 500 pages alone.

Once we get testing to find out how many people were infected by coronavirus we'll have a better idea of how to treat it, compared to other flus. In 2019 there were 7,700 deaths/day in the US. In 2020 covid deaths per day peaked around 1,100. [There have been 38,000 covid deaths since the first US covid death on Feb 29th. That's 760/day.] Of the 760, or 1,100 that died due to covid each day, how many of those people would have died anyways? Has the avg number of deaths per day in the US been up by 1,100? We don't know, and a lot of people are making that exact assumption. Maybe the avg number of deaths/day is only up by 300 because hundreds of those people were going to die anyways. I don't know. I briefly looked and didn't find it. This is also happening during the world's first exposure to the virus. In subsequent outbreaks, our acquired herd immunity will slow the spread of the disease. Maybe we will have some treatment methods that are proven to be effective as well. I agree with the people whose fear of covid is diminishing, but I don't think that the science has shown that we should be congregating again yet.

Everything you said there is wrong xul. 1) blocking flights from China obviously wasn't useless, that's nothing more than an idiotic partisan political attack with no basis in reality. The whole concept of quarantining people is based on the fact that keeping sick people where they are, and not letting them mingle in unaffected populations, is THE KEY FACTOR in slowing the spread of a virus. 2) The US didn't ban their own people from coming back to the US at any point, and yeah, being quarantined sucks but the CEO of 3M is just a person and a potential carrier. 3) Canada has less covid patients because NYC has 1/5th of our population living in 800 sk qm, and the population of BC crams into the NYC subway every day. The population of NYC actually gets as high as 11M sometimes, if you count visitors. That's almost 1/3rd of our population in EIGHT HUNDRED sq km instead of ELEVEN MILLION sq km. You're comparing The Big Apple to a blueberry. 4) We didn't have a massive outbreak because of our geography, not because of anything that we did right. Taiwan has a massive, dense population and they did things right. South Korea has a massive, dense population and they did things right. Canada didn't screen passengers, we allowed people to come here and voluntarily self-quarantine, and we got lucky. 5) the timing of spring break had a lot to do with infection rates, because Canadians mingling in international airports was a key factor in bringing the virus home. Quebec had their spring break before they started social distancing. BC's spring break came after the province was already shut down, and our densest city only has 700,000 people in it. Population density is a key factor in virus spread. I don't know why Alberta was disproportionately affected.

Lol. "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated".

You sound like a belligerent drunk Argus. Dems, the FBI and the MSM were the real colluders in the Russian collusion scandal.

Canada's contribution to fighting covid thus far: Calling travel bans racist, calling masks counter-productive, covering the WHO's tracks, training Chinese virologists at their BSL4 labs. We're still exporting Dr's to the world, we just don't make them like Norm Bethune anymore.

1) Back when Taiwan warned the WHO, they probably didn't realize that the WHO was entirely corrupted. Were you aware of the depths of the WHO's treachery back then? Half of the USA is still convinced that the WHO is out there trying to save the world right now. 2) Maybe Trump initiated his travel ban based on info that he got from Taiwan. He certainly didn't get that from the WHO. They called it racist. 3) If Taiwan warned the WHO, then why doesn't the WHO remember who Taiwan is? That's odd. I'd remember a warning of that magnitude & accuracy from such a short time ago.

It's not just the Republicans that get access to this type of military intelligence. The Chair of the House Intelligence Committee is a Demonrat. Why were the Dems calling the blocking of flights from China "racist and xenophobic" if they knew that the covid outbreak "could be a cataclysmic event"? Were the Dems honestly engaging in a partisan political disinformation campaign to aid in the spread of a deadly virus on their home soil?

Whether or not there was effectively a deepstate operating on behalf of the Dems during the timeframe that eyeball specified isn't really up for debate anymore. A co-ordinated character assassination was undertaken by major elements of the MSM, the Dems, and the FBI. There's proof the MSM knew it was fake [Van Jones casually admitted it early on], the FBI admitted that they knew long before the mid-terms that they had zero actual evidence of collusion, and the Dems created the false dossier so they knew it was fake as well. How organized they are/were, how big they are/were, and whether or not they had an officially recognized leader is another matter which is open to debate. Criminals don't murder cops because they know that their crimes will go from the back-burner, where they only remain for a short time until being forever forgotten, right to the forefront of police forces nation-wide for as long as it takes to be solved. Assassinating a President in 2020 is no easy task and it wouldn't fade into obscurity like the sham investigation conducted by the Dems and FBI [which still has millions of people hoodwinked].

Either you didn't read it or you don't understand it, neither surprises me.

Read what I wrote eyeball. I have all the specifics accurately catalogued in this thread, as per the C-Gov website. Liar.

Wow, Covid is only the 7th known strain of coronavirus to infect humans, not the 19th. Kelly Conway was wrong about that. Does that make her as incompetent as the presumptive nominee for the Dems? Does Biden even know he's in his on house right now?

Bill Gates has an understanding of global politics rivalling that of a sea snail. Did the WHO slow the spread of the virus by 1) saying that H2H transmission wasn't occurring a month after that was known to be false, 2) telling people that wearing masks would effectively help to spread the virus faster, 3) telling countries that blocking travellers from China [back when they were the lone source of the coronavirus] was racist, 4) they didn't slow it down at all, it seems like everything that the WHO did helped spread the virus and the fact that it's a global pandemic is mainly the fault of the WHO, or 5) the correct answer is 4 godzilla, only an idiot would get this wrong. Again, the correct answer is 4 godzilla.

The US sent aid through existing funds and multilateral organizations to help fight covid. https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/482096-us-pledges-100-million-to-help-fight-coronavirus Top Canadian virologists went to China's top BSL4 lab to train and do research with them. Can you show me where Trump sent his medical teams to train Chinese virologists at the highest level? This is like the ME, where the US fought islamic state while Canadian commandos trained the PPK, whom the Turks regard as terrorists. At every level it seems like Canada is eager to just give away our knowledge and expertise to people who shouldn't be trusted.

In light of new, more pointed allegations coming out against China, which are nailing down a timeframe of what China and the WHO knew about covid and what they were saying/doing about it, China may have really screwed themselves. If the Dems and their sycophant media horde can leave internal politics at the water's edge, and stop siding with China and the WHO in their blind ambition tour to harm Trump, then the propaganda war against China can draw some real blood. Right now the world is highly dependant on China for a lot of things, especially medical supplies and vaccines, medical components used for vaccines, etc. The global market theory with China as a main cog is going to crumble if the MSM sticks to the actual, pertinent truths. Lol, 0% chance.

Sadly that's an understatement.

Don't forget that Trump was proven to be correct about that eyeball. Thats kind of a major omission. It's like criticizing the Americans for fighting against the Japanese in WWII without mentioning Pearl Harbour. The FBI made 17 significant errors and omissions just in the FISA warrant application process. They also propagandized the fake investigation that they started. Their leader fearlessly lied on national TV over and over again to malign the POTUS. The FBI kept the fake investigation rolling in pretend mode, after they admittedly knew that there was no evidence and the investigation was a sham, for close to a year which extended the spectre of Trump's possible guilt through the mid-term elections. Top FBI officials had to be fired/demoted because of their illegal activity and severe, pervasive bias. But Trump was wrong to say or do anything about it eyeball? He should just let them continue to operate as a criminal entity, just in case there comes a point in time when they suddenly decide to follow the rule of law again? That's incredibly stupid eyeball. It's like not stopping a fentanyl dealer from getting his junk out onto the street just in case they just randomly decide to go fight crime instead of selling drugs.

I shouldn't have said we, it's actually America's dollars that were wasted on the WHO, and America's intelligence assets in China that were killed or jailed by the Chinese gov't.

I'm not beefing against fighting covid, just the fact that we're spending money on the actual lab where the Chinese gov't cooks up their bio-weapons. Did you see me complain about the tonnes of medical equipment that we gifted China to fight the virus? Why do we let China get involved with our tech at the highest levels? https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/norsat-justin-trudeau-china-1.4179538 Why are we letting Huaweii build our 5G network? https://business.financialpost.com/technology/political-pressure-mounts-as-ottawa-moves-closer-to-5g-decision-on-huawei Helping China fight the virus, and constantly giving them access to the highest level of our tech in every field are two completely different things.

Trudeau gave out $830K in funding and the group in Wuhan were the lead researchers. The fact that our own people were involved just means that in addition to money they got some of our expertise and learned some of our methods. It's a double-whammy.

My toilet doesn't lack credibility. It just exists, and does it's job. You and especially your "news" sources lack credibility. I don't blame you for getting sucked in by some CNN stories eyeball, they have a pretty tight formula for making rubes out of casual viewers, but their BS has been getting exposed for years now. Even a high school kid managed to hoist them on their petard. Yet you can't let go of their hold on you. Honestly wtf does that say about you eyeball?