WestCanMan

That's a pretty fair post Boges. Kudos. The main difference between Fox and CNN is that the conspiracy theories pushed by CNN are pushed all throughout their programming. Like Russian collusion, Kavanaugh, Ukrainian collusion, etc - every "news" item they talk about is skewed to support their falsehoods (remember hearing how many people were indicted and imprisoned for Russian collusion? Was it 13 or something? The real answer is zero. It has been all along. Manafort is in jail for tax fraud, etc). CNN was on the dead wrong side of history on all of those issues. It's true that on Fox they have Hannity delving into the shadow world, reporting on things that we can't see burning or getting shot with our own eyes, so his track record for accuracy is all that we have to rely on. How good/bad is it? Hannity predicted that McCabe was getting busted for lying- he was right. Hannity said (after a few months of following the story) that there was no evidence of collusion, at the end when sworn testimony in Congress came in from people who pimped Russian collusion they all said: "We have never seen any actual evidence of collusion". Hannity reported the dossier was fake when it was still being promoted as partly verified - not a single thing in the dossier was ever verified. Hannity correctly reported that FBI officials were lying to the FISA court to get renewals.... that was a wild accusation and he'd be completely exposed as a fraud if he was wrong and then the IG report noted that 17 significant errors and omissions were made by FBI officials in the original FISA application and the 3 subsequent renewals. That's a huge deal imo. Now they're reporting on Hannity that on Jan 4 2017 the investigators on the case filed the paperwork to close it, and that they were overruled by the people higher up (not specifically named the last I saw) to keep it going. The collusion investigation was left open and cast a shadow over the GOP right through the 2018 mid-terms. You can go back and watch Hannity's program with the benefit of hindsight now and see for yourself how right or wrong he was. I've watched his show quite a bit since the Nov 2016 election, I had never seen it before that. I catch people on the news lying all the time, and I have yet to catch Hannity after all this time. So then there's a site like Politifake that comes along and says that Hannity's record is "20% true"? They cherry-picked 17 stories out of the hundreds of things that Hannity has talked about and then PFake lied on at least two, but maybe all of them? I honestly only checked two stories and they were both outright lies by PolitiFake. I guess I should check some more, maybe all of them. Don Lemon's history of being blatantly wrong is obvious by now. He's a race-baiting asshole with no scruples. Watch any show of his for the last 3 years and you'll see I'm right. Honestly, the worst thing I ever saw Hannity do was last night when he talked about the black guy that was killed by the cops in Minneapolis. Hannity said over and over that it was abuse, and that the cop who had his foot on the neck should have known that what he was doing was life-threatening and would almost certainly result in death after 6 minutes, or 8 or whatever it was. Problem is that at the beginning of Hannity's show he made the clear distinction that calling the events in Minneapolis "protests" was wrong - they were "riots". Fair enough, I agree that the protests were in the form of riots, but at one point in the show Hannity said that the victim "died in police custody" which is as inaccurate as you can get. The guy was definitely killed by the police. He wasn't going to die that day if he wasn't trampled like a rabbit under a herd of bison. In fairness, Hannity acknowledged the guy was killed, and he said it over and over again, but on the point of the importance of semantics, Hannity got hoisted on his own petard last night.

When you catch Fox lying like I catch CTV and CNN lying all the time, let me know Boges. Open challenge. Argus and eyeball tried yesterday, they both just looked stupid for regurgitating easily disproven falsehoods from PolitiFake.

Agreed that they both failed. Countries like Japan and Taiwan who blocked travel from Hubeii Province right away and issued masks to their citizens kicked ass. Apparently doing the opposite of what the WHO says is the way to go. Duly noted. The reason that this is an issue is that the MSM in the States and in CANADA want to tell us that "TRUMP SCREWED IT UP ROYALLY!!!!!!!" and Trudeau was just his dreamy self all along. The truth is - Trudeau did worse, his actions were 100% wrong. Trump banned travel 45 days before sock boy and both countries started social distancing at the same time. Trudeau was still telling Canadians not to wear masks for a long time. There's no room for debate about which leader took the exact wrong path. The media tells you different though. They also vouch for the WHO. That's weird.

Watching CTV News is like wading through knee-high crap. It’s sickening.

Is a video of Barack Obama talking just inside my head? Do you see the link, it works, don’t play stupid.

None of what you're saying is disqualifying for public office. Narcissism is actually Trudeau's strong suit. Clinton was a narcissist, Obama loved himself and especially the sound of his own voice more than anyone I've ever seen. Bush was a weakling. He started off on 3rd base and he couldn't get across the plate even with his massive campaign dollars. Leader of the free world isn't a job for a slackjaw like Jeb. LMAO. There's more than just evidence that his kid got a $30K/mo job at Burisma, the most crooked corp Ukraine, doing something that he wasn't qualified for, and that Biden fired Ukraine's top prosecutor, effectively closing the investigation into the company Joe's son was working for. Those are all established facts. Biden also "appointed a solid guy" in the prosecutor's place, as if it's the VPOTUS's job to do such a thing. Joe and Hunter both continually said that Joe didn't even know he was working there, and the only reason that they admitted that they were lying is because of a photo showing Hunter with another Burisma board member. If you don't see a scandal there you're willfully blind or incredibly stupid. But just in case you really don't get it, I'll establish a pattern for you. Joe Biden was also heavily involved in dealing (weakly) with China, and when Joe went over to China on AF2 to conduct gov't business, Hunter flew with him and closed $1B dollars worth of business with the communist bank of China on that trip. Again, "Joe swears that he had no idea that Hunter was conducting business over there". If you're keeping score, Hunter got a $30K/mo job in Ukraine and closed $1.5Billion in business with the communist bank of China, while Joe was working in those places, and somehow Joe didn't know. They didn't even mention it on during long plane rides together on AF2 because apparently shit like that just happens every day. If Joe has a single defence, it's his own sad mental state. It's actually possible that Hunter told him and it slipped his mind, along with who his political opponent is in the 2020 election: "I'm going to beat Joe Biden!" lol. He's a week or so away from being a drooling vegetable and you want him to be the guy holding the codes. Thanks for the input Argus.

You were blabbering. There's a difference. I looked at your fact checker for 1 minute, found two of their lies, and posted the evidence to you. You couldn't find fault with my post, as usual. My correction of their name, from PolitiFact to PolitiFake, stands. You can alert them to the fact that I'm calling them liars on social media. That would be important to them if they actually give a shit, but they know that they're liars. They won't say or do squat. I have thousands of posts on here. You have had months to look over my posts. You have zero examples of me lying. There are plenty of stats in this thread lol. Get your head out of the sand. It's truly pathetic.

Just because it's all over your head doesn't make it a string theory eyeball.

Everything I've said here is 100% true & accurate, and I haven't omitted any pertinent details. That's insanity to you, but for me it's normal.

You are. Fact is that Trump ran circles around sock-boy in the fight against covid, but people like you act like Trudeau did fine for us Canadians and that Trump failed 'Murica. Turns out that "Leave the flights from covid hotspots rollin' in and don't wear masks" were the exact wrong choices to make. That's why Canada is 11th in the world in covid deaths despite being 39th highest in population and 187th in pop density. I was well aware that masks are good and that allowing people with covid to come here was bad right away. I'm not saying that I'm a genius, I'm just saying that I'm smarter than the WHO, Trudeau, Tam and Hajdu put together. I'm glad to see that liberals are finally starting to realize these things. Somehow they just don't know that the same things that are true now were true BEFORE March 16th as well. That's what we're trying to illustrate in this thread. On the bright side, they've already gotten to stage one of the two-stage process. That's astounding for a liberal mind, but you're peddling their drug of choice - "TrumpsFaultenol" (it's like Fentanyl for really stupid people).

Take heart eyeball. We know that you tried really hard here little buddy. It's not that we're picking on you, you're just not grasping the subject matter at hand. It's some real "grown-up" stuff. At the very least you'd need to understand simple statistics and have a rudimentary understanding of things that people have known since the dark ages to really "get this", ya know? It's no crime to have no clue what's going on. Just get really good at selfies and wear some colourful socks, you could be PM one day.

So you still don't have even one single fact to back you up yet you're running your mouth like you just won the heavyweight title lol. No surprise there. Hint: on a site like this, videos are useful for things like proving that Obama said something when a fake fact checker says that he didn't. Like the one I posted earlier that proved your fact checker was in fact just bullshit, and made you look foolish. Again. Your video, whatever it is, is probably cute, but it has no bearing here. You're just sucking up bandwidth and wasting space on the server. Again.

Yay, Argus us posting more bullshit. I'd love an example of what questions they are asking... What is more dangerous: taking 400mg of HCQ or swimming out beyond the great barrier reef with a severed jugular vein? What heinous crime is Brett Kavanaugh known to have committed against Dr Ford in an unspecified year at an unspecified location in front of zero witnesses? Does it even matter why a bunch of Americans were killed in Benghazi? Pick the inanimate object that can be a racist: shoe, lightbulb, meteorite, wall, lantern, popsicle, umbrella. Correction: pick the one that's more racist than most of the others. Correction, just say "Walls are racist". Name 10 of the top 683 scientifically proven reasons why Hillary lost the election through no fault of her own: ___________________________-. (Demmies - that's one for each digit on your hands) hmmmm (Digits are fingers and thumbs) Oooh snap! (Don't forget to count the finger that you're pointing at your other fingers with) Forget it, just name a bunch. For real Argus, CNN viewers are too stupid to get 1 out of 5 on anything. Go fish.

I've given you multiple chances to actually discredit Fox, you can't find anything. I've proven CNN to be liars over and over, yet you still run your mouth like your CNN-induced opinion is meaningful. Do you have no pride? It's weird to see the way you guys go on and on right after your latest post/thread has been proven to be infantile and completely wrong. It's like you have no memory, or no sense of shame.

I've never seen anything on Fox News saying that Gates wants to microchip people. What I do know for certain is that the world doesn't need to wait for Bill Gates' vaccine to get back open.

Stow it Argus, you don't know your arse from a hole in the ground. No one wanted Trump to be President when he first announced his candidacy. It was like a big joke. Then he opened his mouth and it wasn't even funny anymore. Sadly, as you looked around the room, there were no better options in the GOP Primary. Then he came up against evil incarnate in 2016. And I've known Hillary was a heartless, witless snake with a desperate need for power ever since I saw her interviewed right after Bill's confession, I didn't need an email scandal or anything else to convince me of it. That bitch has said various versions of "I don't remember" to the FBI about 200 times in two separate interrogations. "I fell backwards on the stairs and hit my head, my memory is foggy (but I'm in the middle of a campaign and it's not foggy at all on stage)." Did you want Hillary "It's too early to say that the guy with the AK-47 yelling allhooakbar while he was killing gays was a terrorist" Clinton to be the POTUS? The woman who said "What difference does it make" after she left Americans to die in Benghazi? The woman who called her husband's accusers bimbos and then called Trump a misogynist? That's fucked up. Hillary proved what a useless, heinous piece of crap she was when she worked for Obama. Now you want Biden? Answer me honestly, who do you think committed an actual quid pro quo, and had an actual scandal in Ukraine - Trump or Biden? For real now, with big boy pants on, whose Ukrainian history includes an actual scandal? Which one of them has a Chinese scandal, involving over $1B? Which one of them protected US interests from China when they had a chance? You know the answers to those questions as well as I do, but we both know what you're going to say before you say it. If you haven't ben duped, then you're a straight liar for propagating CNN crapaganda.

You talking down about the intelligence of Trump supporters is like Adolf Hitler talking down about Sister Theresa's altruism. Did you read that post? Did you see just how inaccurate PolitiFAKE is? Only an idiot would regurgitate their screed. You're COMPLETELY duped by CNN and all their toadies Argus. You gobbled their crap up HOOK, LINE AND SINKER every time and I've helped you muddle through their idiocy dozens of times here Argus. Tell the same lie enough times and it becomes the truth. "Let's put a fake story out there, and we'll get all of our faked-check websites to say it's true! Idiots will believe it, even when they see video evidence that it's a lie, just like Argus did with the video of Obama."

Trump has been a great President. That's all I care about, unless he has some actual crimes to speak of. Alberta didn't go "all-in" with oil. They have as diverse an economy as any province. They just have that one industry that dwarfs ALL other industries in Canada. Oil makes up about 23% of Canada's exports, by dollar volume. Idiots like E May think that Canada will be a world leader in manufacturing green technology, they have no god-damned clue what they're talking about. There's a reason why we don't make cell phones, computers, TVs, furnaces, kitchen appliances, etc, etc, etc, etc. Canadians want to make $30/hr, not $40/week. The main reason that we can afford to import all those things that I talked about is because we have a lot of exports. Honestly, E May is so completely retarded that she makes Trudeau look like a mere idiot. You're gonna believe whatever you see on CNN, I'm not going to handhold you through every story that comes along Boges. If you don't know by now that they have absolutely no relationship with the truth whatsoever, you never will.

FYI, everything is us vs them. Business is war. People who want to “fight for a better standard of living” but don’t care about international trade deals just don’t have a clue wtf they’re talking about. Eg, our government’s stance that Alberta oil needs to stay in the ground, and we can’t build a pipeline eastwards, and we will import everything we need from Saudi Arabia, but then they think we will somehow still have enough money to give everyone free everything and we will give billions of dollars to foreign countries...... that is just plain stupid. If you took all the brains from every Liberal MP they’d fit in a nutshell and rattle.

Boges you don't have room to look down on anyone based on their intelligence. Your track record for getting sucked in by idiotic conspiracy theories like Kavanaugh's horrific rape, Ukrainian collusion, Russian collusion, etc is utterly pathetic.

Grow up eyeball. You should have just manned up and admitted that you were wrong once your "fact-checker" was proven to be complete bullshit, or tried to find something verifiable. Instead you just gave up on that topic, and came here cry and pound your hapless little fists.

Oh the irony, CTV talking about bias.

No one "glorified" terrorists. Terrorists stand out like a sore thumb. They have a grievance against people who don't believe in their god so they kill as many women and children as they can. They're the pedophiles of the military world.

Bush was a disaster of a Prez imo. Kind of. But the brashness and the bravado of being a terrorist leader is gone now. I think that a terrorist org loses it's appeal when the leader wants to remain anonymous. Trump ran on a campaign promise of freeing up his generals, and especially the commanders within the theatre of war, to make decisions themselves instead of always waiting for the "green light" from the WH itself. Trump said that he though they could eliminate islamic state in 3 months. Obama said Trump was crazy, and that it would take 5 years, but after just 3 months islamic state was already fractured into pockets of resistance, and those were all but gone after another 3 months. What makes you think that Trump didn't want to do anything regarding Syria? That's the exact opposite of literally everything that I ever heard about Trump/Syria.

I mostly copied and pasted this from my response to a post in a different Trump thread. It seems like an important enough topic for it's own thread. When I look back over the past presidencies before Trump I recall lots of wars and lots of dead soldiers from other countries, and lots of dead and wounded American soldiers. Not so under Trump. Other Presidents may have enjoyed more peace than Trump did. I dunno if Jimmy Carter had to do much militarily, but Trump also inherited an America that was at war with islamic state, terrorist attacks were quite common from 2008-2016, and America was also experiencing widespread rioting and looting for the last 3 years before Trump took over. Trump doesn't have "a war", per se, but the fight that he inherited against isis from Obama was supposed to take a full 5 years, according to Barack himself. Trump wasted isis in less than 6 months. Trump drew a firm red line against the use of WMDs in the ME and enforced it vigorously, twice. America roared (attacked), no one roared back. The whole ME strategy changed under Trump. There's no new ME war started, there's not a war there imminent, and when Trump has a problem with a terrorist group he kills their leader and that's about it. This isn't probably an option that other leaders really had before Obama, but Trump and his Generals have got a huge winning streak going against terrorist leaders that puts everyone else to shame. Under Trump's watch American forces have killed Suleimani (Iran's top Quds General), Al-Baghdadi (leader of islamic state), Qassim al-Rimi (leader of Al Qaeda) and Bashir Mohamed Qorgab (leader ofAl Shabaab), for starters. That's the pinnacle of the leadership of the 4 largest terrorist orgs in the world. American forces haven't been killing honest soldiers from Iraq or any other ME country at all in the last 3 years, just islamic state terrorists that everybody hates. He hasn't given terrorist recruiters any juicy new reasons to kill. Back to the latest winning streak - everything is coming up aces so far, like I mentioned earlier. The world knows that Trump will act decisively, and terrorist leaders aren't puffing out their chests because they know they'll die really quickly if they do. Other US Presidents left messes. They killed a lot of actual soldiers from other countries: Obama pulled out of Iraq too quickly allowing isis to form, called them a Jr Varsity terrorist sqaud and let them grow into a huge country which commited a sizeable genocide, and then he had Benghazi. Despite not "starting" any new wars Obama was a disaster. GW Bush was a disaster. The legacy of G H W Bush Sr was ok, but he started off that whole Iraq saga that saw thousands of Americans dead and wounded through the years. Clinton took over after the cold war was won, all he did was botch a mission in Somalia afaik. Trump's military legacy to this point is killing off islamic state in quick fashion, killing the 3 highest-ranking terrorists in the world plus Iran's top terrorist planner, and starting no new wars. What US President has as successful a military legacy as Trump? Eisenhower and JFK are the only recent ones with successes to match Trump (to be sure Ike and JFK's accomplishments dwarf Trump's), but they share the blame for the Bay of Pigs disaster. Trump doesn't have a Bay of Pigs yet. The Eisenhower Doctrine turned out to be the mother of all "cans of worms", and JFK escalated the war in Viet Nam. If you think back to when the US was fighting isis, the MSM liked to criticize Trump and act like he had no clearly-set foreign policy, but with the benefit of hindsight, Trump kicked ass and left no questions about America's resolve to deal with military issues quickly and to their own satisfaction. I'd love to see a running total of how many US troops were wounded or KIA under Trump vs other presidents, and their lists of successes and failures. Thoughts?