WestCanMan

So the liberals start out saying he did nothing wrong, now they admit that he was a scumbag, but Trudeau is saying this morning that Gaigner was as pure as the driven snow for the last 6 months but he suddenly did one really bad thing right out of the blue. Is he stupid enough to believe that or is he just a liar? Are 35% of Canadians really dumb enough to believe him?

making money from a foreign country is different from making money from a charity at home, where you are already on the public payroll.

wow what a coincidence. Most people in this country are old stock Canadians. Difference being that old stock Canadians don't coordinate their killings with people from overseas, or need automatic weapons etc. Every country has domestic murders and if you are trying to insinuate in some way that we do more than our share of killing fellow citizens than the countries that are associated with terrorism then that's way off topic and I will just agree to disagree with you.

Trudeau doesn't think we need new fighter planes, that's a huge handicap for our armed forces down the road. If the situation arises where we do need them how long will the waiting list be? What will the time frame be, and the cost, if we can get them at all? He will be judged one day in hindsight and I don't think he has the foresight for this world.

I agree with most of this post, but I am still honestly concerned about a Trudeau victory. Not nearly as much as an ndp victory, which is basically the death knell for business in this country. Trudeau is facing a world of hard choices that he is woefully unprepared for. It's easy to say that personal rights and freedoms are the be-all, end-all, but when you're faced with protecting 49 bajillion square miles of this country from internal attacks you will be really interested in knowing what certain people are saying in their texts, emails, etc.

and I think it represents how far the ndp and liberals are willing to stoop for a bit of political gain.I honestly believe that the "opposition" has a greater responsibility than just bitching and complaining every chance they get. Imo they turned parliament into a sandbox.

You can have your own opinion TB, unless of course Trudeau gets elected.The way I see it is they see the Trudeau name as their meal ticket and they're willing to overlook anything for a few more seats.

ok, you got me on Ford brothers. Still, Trudeau brought out shawinigate-man so that almost evens the score on that front.Talk about lying, all the liberals have done for three years is say that the most important thing happening in the world was duffygate. They turn every parliament session into a witch hunt over some chump change from back in the day. I watch the news every day and I'm so sick of hearing mulcair and Trudeau cry I wanna scream.

Trading with the Chinese is not a crime the last time I checked. They have the second largest economy on earth, and I never advocated a head in the sand approach to running the country or managing the economy. I just think it's a little odd/alarming for the leader of a major political party in Canada to pronounce his admiration for a communist govt with such a brutal track record for human rights violations. ToadBrother, is it no big deal to you that he said that, or that he publicly abolished democracy within the liberal party regarding the abortion issue?

Trudeau is appealing to the malcontents of the country who wandered around our high schools saying "I hate cops" for no good reason and that's literally the only play he's got. "Let's legalize weed and get rid of the current govt, because what have they done for you?" Honestly he's running around now saying that if Harper gets a minority govt he's going to do everything he can to grind the country to a halt and force another election. Is that the kind of maturity that you want in a leader? Seriously answer that question or don't bother replying to this post.

imo being anti-democracy is evil. Trudeau publicly admired the Chinese govts ability to do whatever it wants, and then he openly banned the expression of a popular opinion in the liberal party. You can easily follow up on those facts in one second with Google. Has Harper ever done anything remotely as stupid in ten years with cameras on him day in, day out? Trudeau has been in the spotlight for a fraction of the time. There's no cure for stupid. We will see more and more of this from Trudeau over the years, just pay closer attention.

Isn't it a bit late in the game for you to not have noticed?

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Trudeau isn't necessarily pro-terrorism, he's just so lacking in wisdom and intelligence that he always says and does things without thinking them through. Even if there was no such thing as religion Trudeau would be a terrible choice for a leader.

He's like a modern day Robin Hood, taking money from the poor and giving it to himself. Am I right?More like taking tax breaks and taxes from the rich and giving them to the people lower on rhe socioeconomic ladder. I expect that is really what bothers Conservatives about him. In your own words: Dialama, you get one point. I didn't explain exactly what was different between Harper outing someone for saying something utterly retarded, and Justin Trudeau saying that no one is allowed to run for election as a federal liberal unless they share his views on abortion. I honestly thought it was blatantly obvious but now you "should" know the difference between the two. Outside of that you dodge, evade, and throw out straw men on every point. Eg, the vote is split three ways, just like it has been in every election for as long as I have been alive. And yes Trudeau did exactly take money from the poor and give it to himself, if he gives tax money back to Canadians that doesn't take away from that fact because it's not his own money that he would be giving away. But whatever, there's no reasoning with you.

The easiest thing in the world to do is to make promises as the leader of the opposition. No one can hold you accountable for all the things that you're not going to do in the future.Harper ran the country through some very difficult times and he's being held accountable for what? Basically getting us through unscathed.

Don change think --> doncha think iPad spellchecker got me. Pressed for time.

its on point, when you consider the close relationship between Trudeau and Trudeau. Don change think? Good grief. Are you serious? Go vote for the liberals, there's no curing what you've got. trudeaus govt isn't wanted by the majority of Canadians, neither is mulcair's. It's a three dog race. Do you really need me to explain to you how that works? if a man is elected to parliament he has a responsibility to Canadians to do his best for this country. That's it. Not to try and thwart the entire system and get another vote so that they can have a redo. This ship can't go rudderless indefinitely.If those idiots carry out their plan to bring this country back to another election then they need to man up and give up the leadership of their parties. am I supposed to say "yay, one point for Trudeau"? Lmao, you are still at zero. "he drove a second hand car, therefor he can run a country." I'm pretty sure there's a logical fallacy there somewhere. he chose a career in politics, so we should make him pm. You're still at zero points. More like he took the path of least resistance. With his name he was basically slingshotted into the leadership of the liberals. He was born on third base and you act like he hit a triple. why did he make so much money in his speaker career when he says so many utterly stupid things? Is it because people think he has something valuable to say, or because of his famous daddy? His whole career is an inheritance from his daddy, I don't know how you don't see that.In case you forgot, he was also taking a lot of money from charitable organizations as a speaker when he was employed by the federal liberals. He's like a modern day Robin Hood, taking money from the poor and giving it to himself. Am I right? Can I be a liberal? you are a true liberal.

So you don't see the irony of a Trudeau talking about senate scandals, or bringing the dirtiest pm of the last century on his campaign. Not much I can do for ya Waldo. To people with their eyes wide open its good for a laugh.L'Affaire Duffy is much ado about nothing, but the liberals and ndp cling to it like a drowning man clutching a piece of straw. For a govt with a country to run plus major concerns on the international stage to contend with diffy is not even a blip on the radar. He was appointed as an actual senator and no one even questions the fact that he did what little work they actually do. A major scandal is when the leader of a political party officially and openly bans a widely held opinion nationwide. Go ahead and vote for that guy Waldo. The same guy whose campaign promise is to take his ball and go home with it if Harper gets a minority govt. Really mature of him to try and sidetrack our democracy yet again. Can you tell me three good things about Trudeau? Honestly? I don't think Harper is the ideal leader for Canada. I don't think we should blindly support Israel, it's disgusting. But we have three choices. I think it would be a huge mistake to make Trudeau or mulcair pm. --> "Village idiot for mayor".

His own father bilked the senate for ten times as much money back in the '80's with bogus appointees and didn't even disguise the fact that he was ripping off Canadians. He also gave western Canada the finger. No Trudeau should ever complain about anything senate-related.Harper was clearly uninvolved in the mis-spent money, and the way the money was paid back is of no concern to me. I appreciate the fact that Duffy's feet were held to the fire and even you can't deny that with the conservative govt in power there was at least some semblance of accountability in many instances. There was zero accountability in the PE Trudeau era or in the shawinigate era under those liberal govts.

no, I'm saying that he's either anti-democracy or incredibly stupid. That was an alarming thing for the leader of a farcical group like the Green Party or the rhino party to say, let alone one of the major political parties in Canada. Dropping a stooge bomb like that should be political suicide, but then again it seemed to work for GWB and Donald Trump down in the states.

ReeferMadness is calling out the prime minister. 'Nuff said. /thread

99% of what you see your beloved leader doing is slander. He focused on the $90,000 that was mis-spent by Duffy for two years while there was a country to run, and then dragged Shawinigate-man around with him on the campaign trail for added credibility. Ironic? FYI, $90,000 from a federal budget is like a ripple on the ocean, the Liberals and NDP were desperate to make this into the only issue of poltical importance of the last 3 years and they sidetracked our whole democracy to do it. If your spouse lost a dime that was sitting on your kitchen table in 2012 would you still be bitching about it? And who really expects the PMO to be overseeing every travel dollar spent by all his appointees in the senate and every elected member of their party?, Plus support staff, etc? Trudeau's dad appointed senators so old that they were less than a year from mandatory retirement, and they received severance packages and pensions worth well over $90K in 1980's dollars. T If you're a liberal supporter then slander is the only weapon in your arsenal, aside from "vote for me and I'll legalize weed". The main reasons not to vote for Trudeau's party are: 1 he's a self-proclaimed enemy of democracy -recall that he stated in public that noone is allowed to run for election as a liberal unless they are pro-choice (abortion)? Fwiw I'm pro-choice, but I consider it undemocratic to forbid a popular opinion from being expressed by anyone in the gov't. Call me crazy. -recall his admiration for the chinese governments ability to do whatever they want? 2 he's a stammering fool and lacks any semblance of stateliness or common sense. He's basically a Denny's night shift manager with a famous daddy. I can't imagime the PM of Canada being asked a question and just standing there with his mouth open for five seconds before he gives his trademark stupid answer.