WestCanMan

Yup. You know what you think is true. But I know that you think that way because you've been told to think that way - by people whom you shouldn't trust. Just remember that at one point you thought that the jab would get us to herd immunity if 80% of us took it, because Fauci and Tam told you that. Now you know that was a lie. At one point you thought that the jabs would be safe because Fauci and Tam told you that. Now you know that was a lie. At one point you thought that the jab would prevent infection because Fauci and Tam told you that. Now you know that was a lie. At one point you thought that the jab would prevent the vaxed from spreading covid because Fauci and Tam told you that. Now you know that was a lie. At one point you thought that the jab would prevent hospitalization because Fauci and Tam told you that. Now you know that was a lie. At one point you thought that the jab would prevent trips to ICU because Fauci and Tam told you that. Now you know that was a lie. At one point you thought that the jab would prevent people from dying of covid because Fauci and Tam told you that. Now you know that was a lie. At one point you thought that two jabs plus a booster would prevent people from dying of covid because Fauci and Tam told you that. Now you know that was a lie. At one point you thought that two jabs plus two boosters would prevent people from dying of covid because Fauci and Tam told you that. Now you know that was a lie. So tell me again ef, what do you think now? Do you think that the 12th round of vax propaganda will finally be legit? Of course you do, because you never learn. If you did, you'd disregard the propaganda

This coming from a guy who doesn't understand the basic facts about the covid Pflacebo because you can only repeat what you see on CTV - you can't think for yourself.

No, that doesn't make it a conspiracy at all. It's just run-of-the-mill MSM disinformation, which I told you about several times. If you want to believe that the MSM actually works for the Dems, you can, but that's neither here nor there. The point is the MSM lied. All I did was state the known, pertinent facts. You have no valid counterpoints so now you're making an accusation. More like "Leftist accusations: because facts are always on the side of the right-wing bullies ?".

Yeah, your post was idiotic, and was utterly skewered. With ease, I might add. I pointed out that you didn't even attempt to make any valid criticisms of the article, you just said it was poopy because you feel like Fox is poopy, and you also mischaracterized the article entirely - you don't even have a clue what it was about. That's weird because the article wasn't even a bit complicated. Then you called me westcanpoopyman, because it was all you could muster. Yes, I'm back again, I don't stay on here 24/7. So what?

CTV, CNN, the Dems, and the libs have definitely managed to make a living off of it.

That's pretty wild coming from you. There's not a topic under the sun that you don't see and discuss without extreme political partisanship. You won't even admit that healthy people - who have absolutely nothing to gain from vaxing - are suffering extreme side-effects from the pseudovax, or that they still spread covid after being jabbed, or that the same people who are at risk from covid still die of covid regardless of how many boosters they have, solely because of your extreme political bias. Honestly, how much more extreme can it get than ignoring actual human suffering? Yet you won't even consider that it exists until the Demonrats, Libs, CNN or CTV finally fess up. The case could be made that you are exhibiting psychotic political partisanship.

Your post was skewered, now you're gonna get a spanking from the mods for your childish name-calling. It's the same old same old.

You're just saying stupid things and acting like you're making salient points. It's a bizarre leftist thing. FYI - the fact that the police didn't find evidence there doesn't mean that there was no reason for them to search there. The police conduct searches hundreds of times a day without finding evidence. You're just an idiot if you think that what you just said is a thing. Furthermore, you of all people have no room to say that being unable to find evidence is proof that an investigation was bogus - you watched the Russian collusion investigation dig up zero proof of collusion for years yet you kept cheering it on. Also, there are absolutely no "bitter accusations" at all, because nothing that I said was incorrect: -leftists actually were saying that Brionna was just a hard working girl who was shot for no reason -leftists were saying that investigators had no reason to be there, -leftists were saying that the police never identified themselves as police, etc. Every single one of those claims in known to be 100% false. She's the ex-partner-in-crime of a drug dealer, there was a dead guy found in a car that she rented (one of her drug dealing partners), her ex-bf still used her home as his mailing address, her current bf acknowledged that the cops identified themselves as cops but he shot one of them because he didn't believe them, and a cop was shot before any shots were fired. The narrative that "Brionna was shot for sleeping black" was UTTER BULLSHIT. I don't care what a bunch of leftist prosecutors are doing for brownie points, none of that changes the fact that every single thing that I said about the Brionna case remains true to this day.

Lady? On MSNBC? You're joking, right?

As usual. That'd be you dude. You completely mischaracterized the article, and then you had no adult commentary to offer about it. Get your shiny new Crayolas out and take some notes now. FYI, instead of just saying things like "West, your article is poopy because Fox News is poopy" you need to say things like "Rachel Maddow never actually said what she was accused of saying", or "what she said was accurate enough that she shouldn't feel the need to apologize", or something along those lines. That's how adults discuss these kinds of issues. If you make a salient point or two, that's when you get to say "...and for all the aforementioned reasons, Fox News is poopy." You can eat the rest of your crayons as soon as you're done taking the notes.

Of course I didn't lose, silly. I always beat you like a rented mule and this is no different. The only charge that had any merit was the criminal charge for recklessly endangering the neighbours' home. The shootout was legit, and Brionna was involved enough with the main suspect that a search of her home was warranted. The whole backstory that "Brionna was a hard-working girl with 2 jobs who was as pure as the driven snow, and there was never any reason whatsoever for police to show up at her door before she was 'shot for sleeping black'" was complete bullshit. There were a lot of good reasons for police to search her home or they wouldn't have been there. They didn't just run around looking for innocent people to bother. You're such a sucker it's pathetic.

But you don't understand "unprovoked and criminal aggression" or you'd know what Zelenski's problem actually is. He has even admitted to it. ?

The problem is people like you who get sucked in by hollow MSM bullshit. You were lied to ef. Getting 80% 'vaxed' won't get us to herd immunity. It won't stop you from getting infected. Therefor it won't stop you getting sick. Therefor it won't stop you getting hospitalized. Therefor it won't stop you getting sent to ICU. Therefor it won't stop you dying. It actually didn't stop over 7,000 Canadians from dying, and that was a while ago. Therefor it doesn't really accomplish anything, aside from maybe giving you some dangerous side effects. Therefor people shouldn't be forced to take it. Therefor the people who protested against pseudovax mandates were actually doing the right thing, peacefully. Even if they were wrong, and protesting peacefully, they shouldn't have been beaten up. But they were beaten up for peacefully protesting against a harmful pseudovax that's being forced upon Canadians by our fascist government, and that's gonna be a big deal until there's no longer a Canada. You are 100% wrong again ef. The discussion above was just between you and I going a long way back, and when I interjected it was actually about something that D93 said a long time ago. You can see for yourself just by clicking the back arrow in the top right corner of each quotation box. This new debate is apparently a merger of the two topics which were were discussing concurrently, but separately, within this thread. When I interjected about West's Fox article in the other, separate discussion that we were having, the article was not about "They said the vaxx would stop transmission which was why they forced folks out of work for being unvaxxed ", that's a very idiotic misinterpretation of the whole story. The Fox article said that "people on social media were angry [true] that Rachel Maddow made a bunch of claims about the pseudovax [verified by a video in his link] which turned out to be completely bogus". People want an apology or an update from Maddow on vax efficacy. That's it. Your response to West's post basically boiled down to "Fox is poopy"; you had no counterpoints to speak of aside from that. So where we stand on that debate is "Fox News was absolutely correct and everything that they said was verified" and your ad hominem argument was infantile and worthless. I eagerly await your next sandbox insult.

There's no doubt about the fact that the article is 100% true. People want an apology from Maddow. That's verifiably true. Maddow maden a ridiculous claim about vax efficacy (shown on video which is linked to the article) which is now known to be 100% untrue. Again, not a topic that's even in question. The Fox article is 100% legit, your critique of it was worthless and stupid.

Just because you're not smart enough to understand the problem doesn't mean that other people can't talk about it.

I never said anything about a dead horse. You did. Sadly for you, the debate doesn't end just because it's making you look stupid.

Yes, there are quotes from Rachel Maddow in there, that doesn't affect the value of the post. What's happening is that Rachel Maddow, with zero degrees in virology and epidemiology, passed along disinformation which people acted on, and they suffered as a result. That's all true.

... because the problem is "not enough people took the worthless jab with all the serious side-effects" ? It's one thing for you to continue to refuse to acknowledge all of the lies from our health officials and MSM about the pseudovax, and the pseudovaxes' abject failures, it's quite another to think that the solution is just to kill everyone who was smart enough to pay attention to it. You've reached a new level of WTF-ever your problem is.

It was inane the first time you posted it, and it's not aging well. This debate is about the fact that you had your head up your ass when this incident initially occurred and now you've changed your argument to "I had my head up my ass for so long that this is no longer an issue." It was a huge issue, it remains a huge issue, and the fact that you kept your head up your ass this whole time is nothing to brag about.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-crime-police-outline-worst-worst-repeat-offenders-some-more-than-95-arrests In NYC there is a major crime wave happening as a result of idiotic leftist bail reform laws and the de-funding of police. What few police are left in NYC keep on arresting the same violent felons over and over to no avail, they are just back on the streets again in no time. These ten people have been arrested 500 times, but that doesn't mean they just committed 500 crimes, because not all crimes result in arrests. Some crimes, like B&E for instance, have very low arrest rates. NY's Mayor, Eric Adams, is acknowledging that new laws are mainly to blame for this menace to society, but he's not mentioning what party is responsible.

FIFY... Vaccine salesmen, love it. I'm using that one now.

They are bombarded with disinformation daily. They are made to believe that: -covid is a threat to everyone, even children -the jab is 100% safe for children -the jab will stop children from spreading covid, so it is the socially responsible thing to do. If I believed all of their bullshit I would have vaxed my son too, but unlike the majority of Canadians, I don't just gobble up everything that I see on CTV.

The US is playing a direct role. If you don't know that then you don't understand war. People have risked their lives on reconnaissance missions since the very beginning of warfare. Again, the Ukrainians are using ambulances as troop transports, their non-uniformed civilians are shooting at Russians from civilian buildings - making legitimate targets out of them. You just don't understand the rules of war. You can't just turn them off and on when you want to.

There actually is no real crux of your zero loser argument. It's "It happened a long time ago, so I don't care about it." It happened under this PM, it's actually still current.

Who cares? Why shouldn't Americans support democracy?