WestCanMan

Nothing was mischaracterized in his arguments. You could have just learned something of historical significance from his post, instead you made a pathetic attempt to discredit him. That's pathetic.

The part where there was a huge problem but no one really knew for sure that it existed, or to what extent. The FBI didn't just become a complete farce in 2017, they were a farce all along and we just didn't know it yet. The people at the top didn't just join in 2016. People like McCabe, Strzok, Clinesmith and Comey were worse or they wouldn't have been criminally charged or fired. He picked the best of a bad lot.

The Oxford dictionary still defines a vaccine as "giving immunity against a specific pathogen", but people growing up in this covid generation think of "vaccines" as shots which merely "raise one's ability to fight infection by a modest amount". We tend to think of dictionaries as "rule makers" but they're actually just a record of how the majority of people use a word. Seeing as leading members of the scientific community have been using the word vaccine to describe the Pflacebo, I'm pretty sure that the definition of the word "vaccine" will eventually be changed to reflect the way it's commonly used by vaxtards today.

The information that's coming out now, which is exposing the pseudovaxes as mostly useless and potentially even a massive fraud against the western world, is like a death knell for Trudeau's election chances. Our village idiot went full-fascist and treated unvaxed people like second-class citizens when we were the ones who had the rights of it all along. This is gonna get really ugly unless the MSM can come up with a massive distraction, and I don't even wanna think about how big that would have to be.

Omicron = flu 5:00 in https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1212209369513557

Do you honestly still think that the vaccines even work Boges? What stats do you have to back that up? I could point out that 86% of covid deaths in Canada between May 1 and June 19 were among the dbl- and triple-vaxed. Between June 19 and July 24 it was at 86% again. FYI there are already 475 quadruple-vaxed deaths, and 4xers have only been around for a couple months. Again - what is it that makes you so certain that the vaccines actually do anything? Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt and say "the vaccines help a little bit", do you think that's enough to justify forcing people to take the vaccines? Or forcing them to vaccinate even though there are known side-effects which are very serious? What is your "very good reason" for thinking that anti-Pflacebers are so bad? Say something aside from "Trudeau said so!" ffs.

Yes - the vax "happened". It didn't "work" though. When have you acknowledged all of the serious side-effects that were suffered by people who were not even slightly at risk from covid? When have you acknowledged that vaxed people spread covid like wildfire? When have you acknowledged that vaxed people are dying just as fast as the unvaxed? Yes - Ottawa Protesters got screwed in the end. I never said that they didn't. Why are you happy that the people who were on the right side of history got screwed in the end? Why aren't you more sheepish when you discuss the facts?

If you went through these threads and deleted all of the posts which were pure ad hominem attacks that didn't contain an actual fact, stat or cite worth reading, there would be a lot of leftists who's post counts would drop by more than 95%. You could knock me over with a feather if Jack, moonbox, treebeard, exflyer, etc ever acknowledged an actual fact or replied to the actual facts in a post. At the top of the leftist food chain there are some guys like Hardner and Beave who will go after straw man arguments or reply to posts with hollow, unverified quotes from fake news sources. That's it. There's an old joke about Italian tanks - they theoretically have 1 gear in forward and 6 in reverse har har har - that's how leftist talking points go. They start off as idiotic ideas with no basis in fact, but they pack an emotional punch that their stooges fall for every time. Then, just as they about to back-peddle their way to oblivion, a new, shinier set of lies comes out so that they don't have to fess up. The covid story is a perfect example. At every stage of covid they pretended to know everything, and anyone who was't parroting everything they said was racist and stupid. "The vaxes will be safe and perfectly effective." The vax is dangerous and basically worthless now, but you won't find a diehard leftard who will admit that they were wrong about it at any point, ever. They've never acknowledged side-effects. They won't acknowledge vaxed deaths. They still pretend that being vaxed means that they can't spread covid, even though it was only vaxed people who were allowed to fly and yet somehow omicron got from South Africa to every corner of Canada within about 3 weeks. I'm not sure what story can come along now that's big enough to distract us from vax-failure. I'm kinda worried.

Of course they can't. They'll never even try. At best they'll throw some sandbox insults around and leave. Beave was the only leftist here in a long time that would attempt to address core points of an issue, but it's always a losing battle for leftists because the facts are never on their side.

I'm saying that just because he's the POTUS doesn't mean that he could fix all of Washington's problems.

Cognitive dissonance is a bitch. I personally don't like taking in information which deconstructs my own worldviews, but that doesn't mean that I choose to remain ignorant like some Antifa/BLM acolyte or a CNN sycophant with TDS. I'm a law and order guy. I'd love to believe in the integrity of the RCMP and FBI. If they're a failure then our society is in no small way a failure itself. But here's where we are, and if we don't openly acknowledge the fact that we have a serious problem then it's just gonna get worse. It's not like the FBI or RCMP can just keep on getting away with shit and then one day they'll magically decide to knock it off all on their own.

Saw a great meme yesterday:

No one said that they did. Do you ever even pretend to be intelligent?

It seems like every time there's a terrorist attack it's always by "a person known to the government". Lately I've seen a few places where FBI agents were allegedly onto them, even working with them to some extent. I don't have any links so I'll just leave that as a hollow opinion for now. I honestly hate being a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, it's like a kick in the gut to accuse the US gov't of that, but there are serious questions about the fall of WTC 7 that the government is determined to brush under the rug. It's the only concrete/steel structure in the history of the earth to "collapse due to fire", yet there was only a small amount of fire in there for a short period of time before it fell. Other steel structures have been completely engulfed in flames until there was just a skeleton left but they never collapsed. If that's not enough, police in NYC predicted the fall of WTC 7 down to the minute. There used to be video of them telling people to get out of the area because #7 was "coming down" in the very moments before it actually fell. That was an absolutely astonishing "prediction", considering that not one expert in the fields of architecture or structural engineering would have expected it to happen at all. Larry Silverstein also said that they made the decision to "pull" the building, which is industry jargon for a controlled demolition where the building falls within its own outer perimeter. That also seems nearly impossible because controlled demos take weeks of planning and preparation, it's not the kind of thing that you can do in less than 12 hours, especially when it's in a building that's beside two other buildings that just had planes crash into them. Who would bring explosives into WTC7 when there were massive buildings burning beside it, in a possibly ongoing terrorist attack? There are a lot of other incredible coincidences and highly unusual things that took place on 9/11. Our generations and the current US gov't are willing to ignore it but I think that at some point in the future powerful people or governments will re-examine the whole incident and come to completely different conclusions from what the 9/11 commission did.

Yeah, the pipe bomb was planted the night before and sat there until about 1 minute before the first gates were pushed back at the capitol. I wonder if the first gates were initially attacked by FBI plants. And it's still weird that any kind of conspiracy theory about the FBI seems realistic now.

The plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer actually came from the FBI, and not from anyone who was charged for the alleged attempt. https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-reason-publics-confidence-fbi-plummeted If you read the article, you'll see that among other things: 1) the FBI created a FB page called "Patriot 3%ers" to get this going, 2) they offered a basement-dwelling pothead (who they smoked up with) credit cards with $5,000 on them so that he could buy guns and ammo on 5 different occasions and he refused. 3) The FBI came up with a plan to shoot guns at the governor's mansion and at her cabin, but their plan was rejected. And like I said earlier, the plan to kidnap the gov came directly from the FBI themselves. Remember that the FBI and Whitmer herself pimped this as an investigation into people who plotted to "kidnap her and maybe kill her". It wasn't that at all, it was an investigation into people who were given drugs, who were offered cash by the FBI for guns, who were offered the help of an explosives expert by the FBI, so that they could commit several different crimes - all of which were planned by the FBI. Remember Ray Epps? The guy who was trying to convince people to try to gain entry into the Capitol Buildings but was never charged with sedition....? He was suspected of being an FBI plant before the mostly peaceful protest at the capitol even happened. That was also before the FBI charged everyone else but him for crimes there. Now we know he was a plant for certain. The FBI is a cruel joke on law enforcement everywhere. It's no surprise that the Dems demonize legitimate police officers of every stripe aside from the FBI, while continuously using the FBI to conduct their various attempts at fraud on the American people. The FBI is a criminal syndicate that works for the DNC, and not an actual law enforcement agency.

There ya go again, running your mouth without addressing a single point. You pretended to hate Trump because he "was in it for himself", then when I gave you examples of politicians actually just being in it for themselves you couldn't piece it together. I'm not even having a debate with you, I'm talking about reality and you're just flinging insults around like an angry toddler. Heya herbie, what do you think about the Bidens pulling millions of dollars out of China and Ukraine for no measurable services rendered? Heya herbie, what do you think about Trudeau making laws and firing an AG just to protect an illegitimate company (with a history of giving out bribes to Canadian politicians) from a reasonable amount of justice? Do you even have an example of Trump's kids selling influence to a foreign power, or just anything at all to contribute to a meaningful dialogue? You chose this topic herbie... Think man! You're still at 0% right now.

It's sad to see young people like Mr & Mrs Biebs suffering side-effects, and the fact that they pimped the Pflacebo so hard to their followers still doesn't mean that they deserved any part of it. They're just kids who got sucked in by an over-amped media frenzy and shrieking politicians. The people that I'm the most disappointed in are the elderly who advocated for young people to take it when they should have known about possible side-effects, especially when they just because they wanted young people to vax as a shield for themselves.

I'm pretty sure that they've already found a fall guy, the Minister of Transport or something like that. Actually it's: The police never asked for the emergencies act, blah, blah, blah. https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/emergency-preparedness-minister-police-did-not-ask-for-emergencies-act-1.5946705 CTV is saying it. They have their fall guy.

Speak for yourself. Those are my homies!

How did this thread get onto the topics of hockey and the Democrats? Can we just refocus our absolute hatred on our worthless scumbag and village idiot PM?

Judging by this old thread, vax-Naziism actually used to be way worse here in Canada than it is now.

I was just skimming through this old thread. It aged so poorly for the vax-Nazis when you look at the most recent stats. Summary - there were 2,044 total deaths from covid between May 1 and Jun 19th of this year. 1,757 of them were among those with 2 or more doses of the "vaccine". IE, 86% of the covid deaths in that span were among the "fully protected". There were already 265 quadruple-jabbed covid deaths as of Jun 19th. That's more than the number of people under 40 who died since the very outset of covid. All of the above stats are for Canada only.

I have no problem acknowledging Trump's faults and lies. The vax is one of them. He's also a crass and "small" person. His temperament isn't what you'd hope for in a leader. He has a laundry list of dalliances, and he's credibly accused of not paying people who worked on his construction sites, which is basically a dealbreaker for me. The fact that Trump and Hillary eventually became the only two contenders for the 2016 election is a huge black eye on democracy. It was an epic failure that should never be repeated. There are probably thousands of people who I would have voted for ahead of Trump, and far fewer people who I would have put behind him. At the time, I would have probably even chosen people like Schumer and Pelosi ahead of Trump. I hope I'm wrong, but it's a possibility. But as a POTUS, Trump was a 'yooge' success. I was initially mistaken to think that he'd be a terrible president. His economy boomed, crime was normal/manageable, wages increased more than they did under the last two administrations combined, his foreign policy was a smash hit, America didn't get involved in any new wars, almost no soldiers died, terrorism did a faceplant.... It was a massive success by all of the key markers. The main knocks against his tenure in office were smears, like lies about covid, collusion and him "calling all immigrants animals". The media even went so far as to call Suleimani "a beloved father figure to Iranians" to smear Trump. It was unconscionable and repugnant how far they'd go to impugn his every action. You literally have to wallow in shit to side with the MSM half the time. I actually have no problem at all admitting to Trump's blatant failures, but the fact is that you can't acknowledge his successes, and you bend over backwards in an attempt to give credibility to every lie and smear that was ever made against him.