WestCanMan

The pro-Kaepernick here crowd here would have a huge beef with him not being able to park that van wherever he wants. After all, political viewpoints and serious threats against high profile politicians are sacrosanct under freedom of speech laws, right? Even in the workplace.

Trudeau senior was more arrogant than Trump, and that's hard to do. He was a leader for sure, but he was just taking the country in the wrong direction.

CNN stooges, listen up. 1) They say that "there's dog-whistling going on" - that's another way of saying "We don't even have a little bit of proof of what we are telling you. We're just taking the smallest things imaginable and blowing them way out of proportion." 2) They say "Trump colluded with the Russians" over and over again for 2 years, and to this second there's not even one single solitary shred of proof of that, whatsoever. Do you hold them even slightly accountable for the truth? 3) Now they say he's an anti-Semite when he's literally surrounded by Jews, inside his family and out. On CNN they don't even talk about serious anti-Semitic vitriol coming from leaders within the Democrat community who are cozy with Keith Ellison and Barack Obama, but they reference Trump somehow dog-whistling? You gobble that up like a hungry bulldog slobbering up some warm barf? 4) Most of their "juicy dirt" on trump comes from "anonymous sources". No one is "on the record" saying anything troubling. But it's TOTALLY NEWSWORTHY to you guys. 5) On CNN they say he constantly lies, then they reference "crowd size" and "rain during his inauguration speech"..... Is that seriously what they back that up with? Trump has a laundry list of election promises that he's living up to. Those are "his promises" of record. 6) There are prominent Dems going around saying "don't be civil", "get in their faces", "they're hurting our children", "tell them they're not welcome", and they call severed heads & threats of bombing the whitehouse or killing the President "free speech" (it meets the dictionary definition of sedition), and then they go apoplectic when people refer to the angry mobs of people (the very ones that they themselves whipped into a frenzy.....) "mobs". After all that, when Republicans get shot, they blame gun control. Republicans get ribs broken in a blindside attack, not even newsworthy. Trump's family gets white podwer hoaxed, no big d. All of a sudden there's a Dem bomb threat and it's "FREAKOUT TIME!!!!!!!!" They say "Their rhetoric is way out of control!!!!!!!!!!!! It's causing issues!". I call it hypocrisy of the highest order, you guys say "Yummmm, more warm barf." So basically you value unsubstantiated/wild/ridiculous accusations, anonymous sources, people who incite mob activity, liars and hypocrites? Honestly, just sit back for a second and think about how many times you got hoodwinked by major stories like Russian collusion or the legend of the Caerbannock Kavanaugh, but you never for a second thought about how that affected the credibility of your vaunted " news sources". They're the same people who casually tell you that that top-level FBI firings aren't a news story. The guy on this site who said that "Trump's a liar - it actually rained during his inauguration speech" because his news sources told him so, but refused to watch the video of it not raining, is like the poster boy for Demmies. What a crowd. It's so hard to believe that in this day and age, with information so readily available, people with the ability to read and write would keep getting their news from a source with a track record of doing nothing but lying about or everything. It would be one thing if their lies even made sense, but when they turn a terrorist truck rampage into a gun control issue, I actually have to admire their mind-control abilities and feel a bit sorry for you.

Here's the breakdown for you, in case you missed everything since 2015. The USA was extremely divided in 2015 and 2016. There were riots, lootings and wide scale arson in several major cities for months at a time. Hatred of the police was rampant, and race was at the forefront of every single conversation. The President at the time didn't say anything at all to stem the tide. FFWD to 2017: Only a complete idiot would believe that the division in the USA got worse after the inauguration. I don't recall any buildings on fire since Trump was elected, aside from the ones lit up by the fascist demmies of Berkeley when they protested against free (and non-hate) speech. FFWD to 2018: Some people were killed in a Synagogue. CNN needed to turn it into a Trump hatefest before the 2018 mid-term elections, like they do with every story, including the weather of all things. So they just went out and told their moronic viewers that Trump is an Anti-Semite and that caused the killings. Here are some facts for you: Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is a Jew. Trump's daughter got married in a Jewish ceremony, and his grandkids are Jews. Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump are allied far more tightly than Trump and Trudeau are. Do these facts allow much room for the anti-Semitic theory? What "facts" does CNN present indicating that Trump is an anti-Semite? (insert crickets sound-effect here.....) Re: your anti-Semitic violence stat: Did CNN call Obama an anti-Semite In 2017 when pictures came out of him smiling with America's foremost anti-Semite - Louis Farrakhan? The USA allowed tens of thousands of Syrian migrants in 2016. Then there was a spike in anti-Semitic violence right after those two things and you assume that it's Trump's fault? Go fish. 2018 North America. Figure it out.

It's good that you're asking questions.

I do value free speech guys and gals, but honestly, I still think that there has to be a serious response to blatantly evil haters within our society. There’s no shortage of people dumb enough to get sucked in by hatred and especially by fear mongering.

Go sit down before you read this Argus. I just clicked like on one of your posts. You might want to take two Aspirin and call your doctor if you’re feeling cardiac-ish.

You make a good point. It’s places like Iran, where freedom of speech is more like “freedom to get killed for opening your mouth”, that are the real dumpster fires on this planet. It’s good that people like Farrakhan, Elias Hazineh and chucklehead Huda show the world just how low their culture can get, but it’s also too bad that they don’t get properly “outed” in the msm.

No arguing that I guess.

Let me reiterate: FREE SPEECH IS AT THE ROOT OF THESE MURDERS. You can try to make the argument that you still need free speech even though it got those people killed, but would you make the same argument if your mom was laying in a pool of blood in the place she got married, just because she frequented that place? Would you be ok with Farrakhan preaching hate against her? FYI it wouldn’t matter how many guns there were if people weren’t inciting, normalizing, glorifying, ignoring and endorsing hatred against “Jews, Zionists, Israelis”, and fear mongering about “their nefarious Jewwie plots”, or just passing all that off as free speech. News channels like CNN etc that turn a blind eye to Farrakhan’s rotten mouth, and give people like Obama and Clinton a free pass for being chummy with that piece of slime, are as guilty as he is. Can you imagine Trump standing at Senator Byrd’s funeral beside a Grand Wizard of the KKK and his beloved Hillary Clinton? They’d be in their glory at CNN. You can bet your life that they wouldn’t turn a blind eye. It’s friggin unbelievable that CNN is feeding their moronic viewers the line that “evil” Trump’s speech is responsible for this and ignoring Farrakhan and his buddies Bill and Barack. The only thing dumber than a CNN viewer is CNN viewers, plural.

I have no doubts about that. Almost all of the people that you see walking around day to day basis are just awesome, as long as you stick to the nicer places. The exact same can be said for born an' bred 'Muricans. The problems are: 1) the drugs and the actual serious criminals crossing the border and 2) the actual economic problems with unchecked immigration. They already regret taking in so many immigrants in Germany and eastern Canada. It's not easy to just provide decent housing for thousands of people, and you can't build it faster than you can build the supporting infrastructure. Trump is basically right about immigration, he just doesn't speak properly at times. Angela Merkel and Trudeau were dead wrong. If the nation can afford immigration, and there is a need for it, it should be done through proper, legal channels.

There you go again with another insipid and dishonest post. I've made my case against the CBC, and I've never quoted Breitbart or Alex Jones. You've still never made a single valid claim against Fox News so once again your post is completely without merit or integrity.

I think the US needs to tighten up on what's allowed and what's not. I don't think anyone's idea of free speech is "let's commit genocide". And our Canadian laws are useless if they're not used.

I should have cited some links. Do you really need any links on Louis Farkhead in the States or do you know what he's all about? Here are a couple of Canadian hate speech types. These aren't private comments either, they were entirely public speeches made to adoring crowds: It's worth noting that our idiot PM, who loves nothin better than a good ol' fashioned virtue-signalling session, refused to comment on the blatant hate speech made within 100 miles of our HoP. Of course the attack wasn't covered under "free speech" laws, but the idea of committing the attack was embraced and made popular by these kinds of people. Liberals keep trying to derail serious conversations about terrorism by turning them into "access to guns" discussions. Do you think that we will ever rid the world of guns? Even if we did we can't get rid of rental vans or knives, and you know damn well that some of the most successful islamic terrorist attacks have been committed with those things - and they can't be banned. We can't stop people from making IEDS either, like the one that was used to kill kids at an Araianna Grande concert. If you want an "access to guns" thread, start one. This isn't it. You're entirely off-topic.

Just because I don't subscribe to your drivel doesn't mean I can't do simple math Altai. A reasonable person would assume quite the opposite. You're the one who can't answer a simple question; "Can you name some places where non-democratic forms of government serve the citizens better than an average democracy"? I don't care whether you feel like democracy lives up to your expectations. That's not what I asked you. There's an obvious difference between having someone like Harper or Scheer running your country or a complete idiot like Justin Trudeau, and you're being completely disingenuous if you disagree with that statement.

The fact that hate speech against Jews in Canada and the US is legal (thanks Justa Traitor) has no doubt contributed to this disgusting incident taking place. I'm all about free speech, but it's still illegal to say "I have a bomb" when you're on an airplane. By the same token, people who are caught speaking publicly about genocide or assassinating the potus need to go to jail. There are actual laws on the books regarding sedition, and what you can do with an effigy. https://globalnews.ca/news/4605588/pittsburgh-synagogue-shooting-how-it-unfolded/

So I'm the "conspiracy theorist" now eyeball? Try again. I've posted plenty here to back every claim I make here, you just make baseless accusations and insults with absolutely nothing to back you but the opinions that you were force-fed on CNN. I can't say for certain whether you're unwittingly regurgitating lies that you heard on CNN or if you're part of the "tell the same lie enough times and it becomes truth" crowd, but either way your opinions here are completely without merit up to this point. Try posting at least one actual fact or a verifiable link one day. Amaze us all.

You know you're lying when you say that, and then you instantly proceed to talk trash about Trump like it's no big d. He said "they're not sending their best. They're sending their rapists, drug dealers and murderers....". That's 100% true. People who own businesses, and doctors, engineers & lawyers etc, don't rush the border at midnight with their kids. Those people cross legally. Most of the people who cross illegally are unskilled and speak little or no english, and there are a lot of people crossing the border that are human traffickers, carrying drugs, prohibited guns, etc in. You might be too politically correct to speak accurately and truthfully but that's not always the best policy.

Trump is saying fake news, because CNN and MSNBC are fake news. That's not a call to action, like get in their faces, make it so they can't sleep in their own homes, etc. Even worse is when people like Maxine say that he's harming your children. Fear mongering is like a call to serious violence.

OK sure Altai, there's no debating with a conspiracy theorist.

I don't know much about the story. I just read one article about it today. Their family corporation owned buildings and they're accused of not renting to blacks. I don't know if Donald Trump was in a position to make that decision, or if it was his father's decision, or a group decision. It's sad to say, but I have no doubt that the rent of all the suites in their building was higher due to that policy back in the early '70's. Give anyone the chance to make an extra $200 per month, per suite, with dozens of rental units, and they'll do it. And I obviously wouldn't rent anything out to those large mobs of racists that I saw there. Racism in the States at the end of Obama's 2nd term was insane.

Donald Trump's father was still alive until 1999, and Donald was only 27 in 1973 when that happened.

Should the Israelis have done the same thing the Pakistanis did? Commit mass murder and mass systemic rape to ethnically cleanse their new territory? Pakistani militias even committed approximately 300,000 rapes in Bangladesh as well in '70. No one is complaining about Pakistan anymore.

That's just a blatantly stupid comment Argus. Grow up.

Can you name some places where non-democratic forms of government server the citizens better than an average democracy?