WestCanMan

Try to see the actual parallel I drew there. It wasn’t racist for Trump to refuse to disavow voters. It was pathetic. Just like it was pathetic when Obama did the exact same thing. Buildings were being burned down. Racial hatred was spiking. Cops were being killed. Obama was having BLM leaders to the whitehouse for lunch. He stood in front of 5 murdered policemen and linked the cause of their deaths to “centuries of racism, slavery and (the Democrats’ own) Jim Crowe laws” thereby making a martyr of their killer. Obama didn’t do a damn thing to distance the Democrats from what was going on, he just kept fanning the flames. He even admitted that he’s racist. I can stay on this topic as long as you want.

It’s an article that’s full of quotes that are attributed to anonymous sources. It’s not exactly on the up and up but CNN doesn’t deserve better. They’re the world leader in anonymous sources.

What I see is Obama failing to lead properly because he didn’t want to offend voters. Much in the same way that he refused to call for an end to rioting, looting and cop killing because he didn’t want ti offend his voters. Or because he hates cops and he is ok with the destruction of property.

That’s a crazy swing right there. Pretty brutal for the Dems I gotta admit.

Yes that’s now it works in BC, but that isn’t the point re: Carolina. I was using Metrotown as an example because people know that area better than they know Carolina.

You’re looking at the whole election freakoit thing upside down. If you recall the Dems were accusing Trump of being a sore loser before the 2016 election happened. Then when they lost they were the biggest sore losers in ths history of democracy. There’s still a collusion investigation going on, remember? Now there’s a recount in Florida, and in the hours before the Republicans’ 2 injunctions kicked in the crooked Broward election team found tens of thousands of votes and narrowed the lead from 60,000 votes down to just 12,000. You think Trump is a problem there? Tye Dems are also the ones who want people to vote without id. Why wouldn’t people go vote multiple times?

If you watch Fox you'll find bias for sure, but they're nothing like CNN. TBH Acosta needed to go, and CNN should have figured that out themselves. They need to put on their big boy pants for a while. They could actually be a better deterrent to Trump if they were less idiotic. Trump is the less boorish of the two. Scary.

That doesn't mean anything without an accompanying map. If you look at the map of how districts voted in the US federal election in 2016 it's almost entirely red. The blue dots are a small fraction of the overall map, but they're in the areas with heavy population concentrations. So in a place like Carolina, if you get a close vote in 10 large geographical areas and then a solid Dem win in 3 areas it tilts the vote. Can you really turn a small area like Metrotown in Burnaby into 6 ridings? Not ideally. Should they get to determine the fate of the entire city of Burnaby? Not ideally.

Obama wouldn’t even say “islamic terrorism”. Cuts both ways.

There’s no white supremacy agenda in the Republican platform, so whatever you’re dreaming up is pure bullshit. Its pathetic for Jake Tapper to ask Trump to denounce voters, just like it would be pathetic for Fox to ask Hillary to denounce supporters of Islamic State. And we both know exactly who they would vote for in both Canada and the US.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johnson-civil-rights-racism This isn't from a right-wing site. It's MSNBC. LBJ came up with a decent enough strategy - he switched course and came onside with the Republicans and made the civil rights bill, which passed with bipartisan support. Up to that point he Republicans singlehandedly advanced the cause of slaves/blacks and Dems always voted unanimously against anything that helped them. The quote "I'll have them niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years" isn't something that was caught on an audio recording but it encapsulates LBJ's position perfectly. He used the word nigger a lot. So you have a source that says two people in the history of the Republican Party tried to cash in on the resentment that jilted kkk members felt towards the Democrat party. And it's not that the Republicans ever presented bills or voted in a way to harm blacks, they just didn't go after the black vote. LBJ had it wrapped up. I didn't know who David Duke was until this election cycle, so I can't say who should or shouldn't. I know who Hillary's mentor is though, it's the former Grand Wizard of the KKK and the longest serving democrat Senator ever - Robert Byrd.

That was pretty sad to see that many people think and act like that. The sadder part is that there are plenty more of them who just aren't willing to show their faces in public. I don't even get the part about "Jews will not replace us". That's a f'n nutjob chant if there ever was one. I'll dial it back from equating Antifa with those guys, but just by one degree. Antifa was also protesting against police which is right up there in my books. The Republican party is right where they've always been, and that's in lock step with the constitution. No slavery, equal rights, low taxes, capitalism. Since the 1800's it's been that way. There's no courting of losers involved, period. That's just Dem speak. They didn't just magically do a 180. There's literally nothing wrong with just using the word sheckels. I've never heard it used in a derogatory way before. This is the first. I don't see real evidence of Trump's bigotry anywhere. It's not in his policy, and his comments aren't that bad outside of the initial muslim ban comment comment but that was literally him overreacting to the pulse nightclub shooting. Having an overreactive US president has been a good thing abroad. Domestically it doesn't seem like muslim terrorists even want to attack America while Trump is President. 2 years without anything big. We've had our first two big attacks since Trudeau came in. It seems like they only attack when the government favours them. Aside from that muslim comment , people act like it's a big deal that he said MS-13 are animals and Dems have tried to equate that with "all immigrants are animals". That's just another straw man argument. It's pathetic that people can say stupid things like that and CNN backs it up. Shithole countries was something that 1 person accused him of, but I'll say it right here.... shithole countries are real. If you can kidnap 200+ girls and keep them hidden from the government for 2 years, you live in a shithole country. If there are enough terrorists to fight off your army, you live in a shithole country. If women have to wear certain clothing so that they don't get raped, and the police will just laugh at you, you live in a shithole country. If a woman can get sent to jail for taking off her hijab, you live in a shithole country. If Americans get to choose who comes into their country, they should be extremely choosy about who they pick from those places.

Our current government is killing our energy sector just to try to look good, while countries like China, India and Saudi Arabia are still going all-out on carbon-based energy. They're not sacrificing a cent from their economy while we're gutting ours. Plus we're bringing on the financial burdens of this lib gov't debt, plus we're adding the drain of unchecked immigration to our system. Tent cities weren't a thing in Canada when I was a kid. It seems as though we're just getting started. Rising energy costs, rising housing costs, mounting debt, and a government that thinks money grows on trees...

Eyeball why does it even matter if it's 75%, or 50%, or even 33%? Shouldn't you be able to say "Nothing that I posted here is intentionally untrue"? Why do you feel like it makes your points more valid if you support them with inaccuracies/fabrications, or try to detract from other people's points by mischaracterizing them? Maybe you should reconsider your position if you have to lie to make it seem solid. You have to admit, it's pathetic that you're squabbling over the exact percentage of "non-truth". Like "Yeah I know I lie, but I keep it way down below 40% of the time. Like WAY below. Usually."

Talking about facts and events is the way to go. If you want to talk exclusively about why people do what they do that's just speculation and completely unfair/ridiculous.

OK, more than 50%. I didn't say 75.0%, I wasn't acting like I tabulated everything.

So every single person at the Charlottesville protest was chanting "The Jews will not replace us"? That's the first I heard of that, and I'll be shocked to find out that it's true. In my mind's eye I'm envisioning a few people trying to get that chant started somewhere and it fizzles out. Do you have a link to that? And fwiw I definitely am equating Antifa with the white nationalists. They might have looked good by comparison in that specific place but overall they're a gang of angry, stupid, violent Dem pawns. Useful idiots. The Dems have a long history of having a violent arm, including the KKK. Shekels is just money. Drachmas, bot, skibeebees, wampum, dineros, moolah.... whatever. I've even heard people refer to "a pound of flesh" in matters that had nothing to do with Jews. To be honest I only met a handful of Jewish people in my life out here and I've heard the word sheckels a lot. I've heard lots of random things about Soros, I don't know what's true and what's not. It's definitely true that there are wealthy people trying to advance the Jewish cause, just like with Christians, Muslims and every other group. That's what religions do. I would think that Soros and Trump run in the same circles, so I would be surprised if Trump is way out in left field if he ever says anything about G Soros. In any event, you have a bunch of unrelated, minor things, none of which are actually incriminating. You have to really want to believe it. If Trump didn't have Jewish grandkids and didn't support Israel so thoroughly I'd give this more consideration, but his pro-Jewish actions are epic and to say that he has anti-Semitic incidences is a stretch. The case against the Clintons and Obama is far more obvious.

TBH your list has some falsehoods and some stupid BS. Pretty much everything that you saw about Charlottesville on CNN was part of a smear campaign. You'd have to be an idiot not to know that even if you didn't bother to do any digging. Eg, Trump said that some people were just there to protest the statue coming down, and it's impossible for that to not be true. He was also correct to say that "both sides engaged in violence" but CNN demanded that Antifa should bear no responsibility for any of the violence, even though they're the ones who showed up without permits. None of that is even debatable. Just because you don't like the truth doesn't make it not the truth. Re: the sheckels comment, everyone says sheckels or uses other slang terms for money. Only an iiot would call that anti-Semitism. Who cares what shape the star was on his ad? It was a solid colour. A star of David shows the lines on the inside of the drawing, like a pentagram. Without those it's just a star. George Soros is an extremely political, behind-the-scenes guy. Soros skepticism isn't anti-Semitism. What would migrant caravans have to do with sinister Jewish plots? Are they being blamed for trying to sneak muslims into the US so that Americans will learn to hate them, and then they'll nuke all of Israel's enemies? Can you somehow link the caravan to a Jew plot because I don't see one. It's ridiculous.

So who do you think does appreciate your opinions? Literally 75% of what you say is untrue, so what kind of people listen to you? I can't even imagine what a conversation would be like with two people just re-inventing history so that they could bitch about things that never really happened.

Lol.

Do you honestly feel like people respect you or your opinions eyeball? Do they like your baseless accusations, your ad hominem and straw man arguments? Honestly you need to do some thinking when you read a post, not just try every trick in the book to discredit it, no matter how lame.

I don’t think there’s much to some of those. Especially the ones about Soros. Just because Soros is a Jew doesn’t mean that hating him makes Trump anti-Semitic. I hate Trudeau and he’s a white Canadian, he abides by the laws, he dislikes racism for the most part, we’re close to the same age... Soros definitely isnya person to trust if he grew up turning in Jews. I get that he was powerless, since he was a kid at the time, but it’s part of his upbringing to betray people. Id need more context with the rest of those items. Not because of you, but because Trump smears are rampant and for the most part, inaccurate.

To be honest a lot of people in the States adore Trudeau. He's known to be a virtue-signaller down there and fact that he's cozy with serious anti-Semitism no doubt makes the rounds down there. The anti-Semite community would be well aware of it, but the real support there comes from Obama. Obama & the black caucus chilling with Farrakhan, B Clinton sharing the stage with him, those things are outrageous props for the anti-Semite crowd. Both of those things are fairly recent too (the Obama photo is old but was just recently released), their place on the timeline with the Pittsburgh shooting shouldn't go unnoticed.

To be honest, I've put a lot of effort into being polite and responding to your posts with accuracy and fairness while you are just flinging out posts which you know are bogus. He's still doing it. If he doesn't have the cajones to do his job right that's still reason to vote against him. The connection isn't as tenuous as you'd like to think. Trudeau has been extremely quick to pounce on what he interprets as bigotry time and time again. He's making a big show of the fact that he's trying to set the bar at 0/100, which is where it should be. So a lot of people, especially the ones who were dumb enough to vote for him, think his line in the sand draws a very righteous path. But when it comes to anti-Semitism he has now set the bar at about 80%. If you're feeling just a bit anti-Jew you can let it fly now. Do you think that a call to heap some Palestinians into body bags would have gone unnoticed by Trudeau? Re: the "right wing", I've freely admitted that Trump's name-calling is bringing down the level of political discourse to a new low. He's also too quick to run his mouth, he leaves a lot of room for the press to play with his words and twist them into something they're not, just like Maxime Bernier did with his notorious 5-part tweet. But Trump is 100% free and clear of anti-Semitism charges. It was utterly ridiculous and repugnant for CNN and Dems to try to make that connection just to score political points in the most heinous manner possible. That's far lower than anything Trump did, and unfortunately that says a lot.