WestCanMan

It's probably time to shut this one down. Honestly the whole premise of the thread makes about as much sense as "What's better for making sandwiches: bread or cinder blocks?"

Not a chance. He's exerting control over social media now and he has been buying off mainstream media ever since he got elected because he knew that things like SNC, Norman, Ray-Bold, and all his other ethics breeches would come up. He thinks that they are all under control, and to a large extent they are. Norman is silenced, the CBC and CTV throw all types of meaningless news ahead of SNC, Ray-Bold and Norman. He's like every other truly narcissistic megalomaniac, and those types never see themselves as a problem or flawed, except for in the eyes of the deplorables. He still thinks that he's the cat's meow in the eyes of every decent, true Canadian. I think that his post-election excuse campaign will make Hillary's look classy.

NVM, it was over your head.

There’s a ton of proof that you’re “John Otis” and there are a lot of reasons why you got banned the last time.

Get a life Mike. Serious accusations come with a burden of proof. It’s time to put up or shut up.

I never said that their rating for being factually correct was high. You did. I just proved that they lie. Now you know.

Your own article says that 130 people per year are killed in India. Their population is 33x ours, and we had 13 deaths from islamic terrorism in 2018. They need to have 437 deaths per year to keep pace with us. They’re at 1/3 of our pace. Sucks to be us.

Honestly all that your reply says is that you can't comprehend what I posted. And he was elected twice fwiw. It's not even the tiniest bit rational to believe that the most extremely unbiased country on earth religiously is the most biased country in the earth by race. That just doesn't add up, and you just have one survey by two dudes to back your claim, plus this new "he said, she said" article. Lmao Argus. You make the weakest case in history for racial bigotry in India. I make the strongest argument against religious intolerance in the history of the earth in India. You need something epic. Something you can at least hang your hat on. I have TWO federal elections to act as proof, and you even named a 3rd one yourself to prove that they're not even gender-biased. LMAO.

It proves that they're not just whistling Dixie. They're serious about their religious obligation to wear a turban. If their religion is that serious about it then I can respect that.

The problem is that SNC was caught paying off a politician ($2M) to help get themselves a bridge contract. Why is Trudeau trying so hard to get them back in the loop? Does he have a finacial stake in it?

Here's one single huffpost article proving that the overall worth of their reporting is less than zero. Here's an excerpt: These "credible, significant allegations of sexual assault" don't include a day, a week, a month, or even a year. They don't name a house, a specific area of a town, they don't name who hosted the party. She can't find a single person to say that she ever talked to them about it in the recent or distant past. She didn't talk to her mom, her dad, her grandma, her best friend, the police, high-school guidance counsellors, her ex-boyfriends.... no one. Every single person that she named as a witness said that they had nothing to testify to. She claimed that she couldn't fly in to testify under oath because she has a fear of flying, yet she has flown multiple times in her life. The Republicans offered to bring their lie detector and their lawyers so that she could testify in her own city, and that was stated multiple times on various national news outlets "but she never saw or heard of it, and her lawyers never informed her of the offer". She claimed to have claustrophobia and said that she couldn't stay in a hotel room because it only has 1 exit, but she lived many years in an apartment with 1 way out. So how can you define her allegations as "credible and significant"? If you can do that then you can claim that my objection to Huffpost is unreasonable.

The sky must be falling then jacee, because foreign-owned companies explore, drill, and refine oil in Canada too. Where is your proof that USA is taking the oil profits away from Venezuela jacee? When you make statements like that you need to provide facts, cite sources, etc.

Trump has at least been strong. I will be hard for the next Potus to match his perceived strength internationally.

The last post in this thread was 16 days ago. Would you say: 1) it's remarkable how quickly the CBC and CTV have managed to make the SNC scandal go away, or 2) it's remarkable how quickly an even bigger, more unseemly scandal could totally draw all the attention away?

I doubt it. But again, it's within their own religion. If they want to have this ridiculous hierarchy within their own religion, it's their own personal choice to do so. It's only religious bigotry when you inflict your own religious beliefs on someone with a different core beliefs.

All 3 of your sources reference the same survey. The third one just posed another question alongside it which, answered honestly, would yield the same answer from everyone on earth. So you're basing your theory on one survey which might just be garbage, and a second one that certainly is. Here's the thing Argus. I made an indisputable observation. It was based on the most honest measure imaginable (how people cast their secret ballot), of the entire population (a federal election). You're pimping one survey which certainly would have sampled a minuscule percentage of the 1 billion+ Indians, and a silly question. I know that my proof involved the topic of religious bigotry, while yours was based on racial bigotry, and I can see how you could claim that yours is on-topic and mine isn't. Here's the rub. In order for you (your survey) to be correct and my proof to be wrong, then Indians would have to simultaneously be 1) the most racially-bigoted country on earth and 2) by far the least religiously-bigoted country on earth. In my opinion, that's not even remotely possible. It's far more sensible to draw the conclusion that your survey was either; incorrectly interpreted, poorly contrived, intentionally manipulated or otherwise flawed/corrupted. Mic drop digitally remastered.

Further to my earlier replies to your posts, I wanna post this little nugget of information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh In a country with just a hair under 1 Billion Hindus and a religious makeup of; 80% Hindu, 14% Muslim, 2% Christian and only 1.7% Sikh, a Sikh was elected twice in a row as PM. Mic drop! I was gonna stop there, but honestly, I think that people need to take a closer look at the folks who are dissing India. I think it has more to do with their own agenda than anything that the majority of people in India are doing. I'm not Indian, or Sikh, or Hindu and I don't have any of those guys in my family or married into my family. But if you look at the view from 50,000 feet it's had to say those are the "bad guys". Yeah I know this is off-topic, I don't recall being the one who directed the discussion here.

Are you referring to "India's caste system" or the Hindu caste system? Lighter skin, traditionally in sun-baked climates, isn't the cause of elevated social status but a direct result of living indoors. The poorest people are outside grubbing around for scraps, the uber-wealthy are inside getting massages and having grapes fed to them. In between that you have various levels of labourers, foremen, supervisors, upper management, etc, etc. Within the Hindu caste system people's entire bloodlines are banished to the lowest form of existence and they just live with it because it's part of their religion. It's insanity.

Can you cite some sources referring to these higher payouts by people wearing turbans? Wearing a helmet won't stop a direct hit from a bullet but it can easily save a person from death or serious injury by shrapnel, falling debris, etc. They risked their lives to fight without helmets alongside of us in the WWs, I'm not bothered by their right to ride without helmets, period.

I get it. He was murdered by a group of religious bigots (not racists), but a group of 30 Hindus in a country that probably had at least 700,000,000 Hindus at that time isn't proof of anything imo. Side note: there still isn't a "Hindus-only" nation on this planet and there are a billion of them now. How bigoted are they, really? People in Pakistan are getting the death penalty, FROM THE ACTUAL GOVERNMENT - NOT JUST A SMALL ANGRY MOB, for talking about Christianity. When a country's federal government is handing out death sentences that are purely based on bigotry, instead of small mobs, that's bigotry on an entirely different level. It's actually several orders of magnitude higher.

TBH, I was just over at some friends' place yesterday and their kids were talking about how openly & horribly racist the Punjabi students are at their school. I heard that from my step-daughters as well when they went to Tamanawis a few years back but they are white, and they had a separate agenda for getting out of that school so I didn't put much stock in it (they did change schools). It's worth noting that India's neighbour, Pakistan, is also considered to be the most religiously-bigoted country on earth too, so maybe evidence is mounting. But honestly, how different are the races in India? Their skin colour varies by about 1% and all their DNA is basically identical. Are you sure that you're talking about racism or do you mean religious bigotry?

1) You just quoted huffpost lol 2) Some rando is making vague accusations about the US picking off a handful of political adversaries, to thwart the spread of communism (google how many people were killed by communism in the 20th century), and that's reason to compare the US to the Huns, Mongols, Romans, Ottomans, Persians, Nazis, and all the various caliphates that raided India? If your comparison is even accurate, how many people did the US kill (50?) compared to the Persians in 1 year? Seems like they were doing the world a favour if that's the case.

If they develop a poop-emoji helmet I'm gonna buy a motorcycle. I'll ride around wearing a jacket that says "vote for Trudeau".

No more than most other places. The caste system that you're talking about involves people of the same religion and the same race. Can that really be considered bigoted? I'd call it religious stupidity. People can be as dumb as they want within their own circle. It's only when they inflict their views on another race or religion that it becomes everyone's problem. Sikhs fought for the allies, and very well, wearing turbans. If it's that important to them then they can ride motorbikes with them on as far as I'm concerned. As far as ICBC rates because of helmets, it's not like having no helmet means that you'll probably get a long-term injury and tons of money. It usually means that you're dead and you get nothing.

I live in BC, and what I find scary about those numbers is that it's mostly based on our own circular economy. The top 5 things on that list have nothing to do with bringing money into the province, unless the purchase of real estate by foreigners counts. And regardless of the sale of real estate, money coming in from China is a big part of our economy. If the economy here slows down it's easy to see real estate, the service industry, retail and construction all taking a big hit at the same time. Gas has hit $2/litre here in some places. The cost of living is going up all across the board. I'd personally love it if our economy stays strong but it's not fundamentally solid.