MiddleClassCentrist

If true, I think he'll tank in the polls. I'm a bit offended by it. We are already making cuts to avoid it in Canada... now those cuts would go to assist countries overseas? I am a fan of letting everything tank and sorting it out rather than just artificially proping up our failed system. Let the rich lose all of their money, hit the restart button.

I agree with the conservatives on this one. The money poor money management was that of investors who took risks, they knew the risk. Let it if fall.

Source?

It's pathetic that the MSM has towed that line. Seems like they are in the back pocket of the oil corps too... "Let's develop them sustainably" "Booming dollar hurts manufacturing, which is dutch disease" They have successfully brainwashed their mindless followers that sustainable development is pitting east vs. west and that the well known fact that a high dollar hurts exports no longer applies because we have oil sands.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/albertas-red-deer-river-hit-by-oil-leak/article4241238/ http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/spill-sends-22000-barrels-of-oil-mix-into-alberta-muskeg/article4219809/ Let's add in the one that happened before last year's election but mysteriously didn't appear in the news until AFTER the election. http://www.davidsuzuki.org/blogs/panther-lounge/2011/05/albertas-biggest-oil-spill-in-30-years-is-a-call-to-action-for-canadians/ Probably some more that were unreported by our benevolent corps. Why are we stripping envronmental legislation? Why are we not punishing these billion dollar corporations making these careless mistakes? In the next century, water will become our most valuable resource as world demand for water increases. Why are we toxifying it with this short sighted conservative economic policy?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/ottawa-launches-alberta-counter-terrorism-unit/article4236422/comments/ The federal government is a fierce supporter of Alberta's oil and gas industry, going so far as to label some opponents as "radical." You would almost think that the oil/gas industry was in their back pockets. I'd like a personal security guard to keep the neighbourhood hooligans from taking my coffee money out of my car. It is just more proof that the rich benefit exponentially from tax dollars. The Koch brothers are supposed to be worth 25billion each. These people hate labour, hate the environment, and spit on government interference. Why are we paying for this again? This is a essentially a private security force... Pony up billionaires.

I don't think Fletch realizes that he's not actually winning any arguments by being so extreme. In order to win the minds of people and convince them you are right, you need to slowly pull them in with reasoning. Not blatant party propaganda, here say and party talking points. The dubious conservative posters are out in force today thumbing up pro-conservative comments. It's interesting to see.

Technically, this thread was about being annoyed by the plethora of pro-west propaganda/misinformation until about page 3 when Claudius entered and made it about east vs west hatred and emotionally charged the discussion.

Or the finance minister that slags Ontario.

Alberta, because they are pumping money out of the ground.

Conservative/austerity ideologues don't get it, and never will get it.

I have a deal for you. You give me 4% of $1 billion dollars. I'll give you 10% of $1 million dollars. You'll have more money in the end. Financially sound decision. Really though. If we keep this up we can get Claudius to 100 posts on the top poster list.

All this bantering aside. I have nothing against the people who live out west. I'm sure they are great people. I have something against the propaganda in the MSM that downs Ontario/The East and Ups Albera/The West.

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE POPULATION OF YOUR PROVINCE? I'm starting to doubt that you live in Alberta. 3.6 Million in Alberta 12.8 Million in Ontario.

Did you know that Albertans are more likely to have Genital Chlymadia than Ontarians? By a factor of 1.65! 0.00172 infection rate in Ontario (1.72 per thousand Ontarians) 0.00286 infection rate in Alberta (2.86 per thousand Albertans)

Did you know that your extremely socialist provincial government spends more per person than Ontario AND has more public servants?

Go on... Your ranting is amusing.

It's sad that people don't take democracy more seriously.

Pointing out that men go where women are, not the opposite. And that it is silly to put positive spin on families arriving in Alberta without proper infrastructure to support them. Yep. Definately personal.

You could make the connection that I said that it is retarded. Not that it doesn't happen.

aaaahhahaah. This thread has devolved.

It exists to counter the positive spin that was put on the articles I read that day. You are taking a thread that has the word "Sausagefest" in it's title too seriously.

I wasn't raised a century ago. And neither were most westerners. I posit that it is simply retarded to hold on to hate for things that happened before we existed, even something that caused a divide 30 years ago is no longer relevant because the people in charge are no longer in charge. The younger generations shouldn't be punished with assumed hate as I have experienced. What is happening today? "Ontario is garbage" is the mentality I'm exposed to. I don't appreciate it.

*Intervention* Claudio is about to burst. Let's all just let him get back to his man party of a life, live and let live.

Maybe the purpose was to counter the plethora of pro Alberta propaganda in the news? Have you never seen a big winner news article and the spam of Westerners complaining that it is another win from Ontario? If you can't detect some sort of humour in the original post, you must be a pretty angry individual. U mad? so sad.