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Anti-maskers made to dig graves for Covid victims. Maybe a better plan than fines.

You do that, sweetie.

I suspect you could be black based on something you posted a couple of years ago. But that could be entirely wrong. If you are, it doesn't mean you can't be as big an asshole as my White Supremacist neighbor. Assholes come in all colors. Oh yeah, I'm not even bothered. You'll have to try harder with your slings, LOL.

You clearly haven't seen all the posts he's made, here and elsewhere. He did actually explain about when he was in a position in which he hired people, he'd ignore resumes if the name indicated that they were immigrants. My White Supremacist neighbor called me a race baiter because I objected to his abuse of the brown people next door. He behaved so badly that he was eventually put on a bond not to come within 500 metres of his own home - so he and his wife sold up and left, presumably to a nice white-only neighborhood. So you are in good company. I'm characterizing Argus, nobody else. You, I'd characterize as Islamophobic more than racist. I characterize people based on what they post on these forums. That's individual characterization rather than group characterization. Sometimes I group characterize conservatives based on the worst of the conservatives on this forum, but I'm working at quashing that tendency.

There is something wrong with looking at a name on a resume and assuming they won't speak English, won't understand English, won't have the right sense of humor, won't fit into the office culture. That's exactly what racism is. Even if that is true, making assumptions based on a name or skin color is wrong because that person may well be a second or third generation with perfect Canadian English or French. You don't know, and you won't even consider that a random Parmjit Singh or Zara Abadi could communicate clearly or understand our culture. Instead, you'd just ignore their application. Even if you're nice to the East Indians and Arabic people you interact with otherwise, your conviction that, as a group, they aren't as good as White Canadians and don't really belong here is what defines a racist attitude.

Sucks when a hoax virus puts you in the hospital.

The intent of government policies at the time was to eliminate native culture, their language, traditions, way-of-life and religion - to make them white christian in all but skin color. That goal is no different than the goal of extremists today in certain third-world countries: eliminate the culture, traditions and religion of Jews/Christians/Muslims/etc. Do you know how many kids died as a result of those government policies? They died through starvation/beatings/disease at the res school, and they died trying to escape and get back to their homes, often 100s of miles away. This was not a benign "help the poir darlings out", it was "destroy them by any means, short of lining them up against the wall and opening fire".

Well, I suppose when you deny other people the right to feel aggrieved for the decades in which whites were given preference, and deny that it still happens despite your own involvement in doing just that in your own hiring practices, and with declarations like "Why wouldn't we have 'power' in a democracy when we're the majority?", it looks a little like maybe you just want to play victim. Well, not a little - a lot. Yes, things are improving - I'd agree with that. I'm not convinced it's "equal opportunity for all" yet. But I see hopeful signs, despite right-wing dinosaurs that are not quite extinct yet.

I didn't say you had to feel guilty; I said white people who feel victimized by non-white people are stupid and dishonest.

LOL. Nothing like the victim culture enjoyed by certain whites - "We make up government, make the laws, rule the corporations - but OMG, we're victimized because people are noticing all this power we have! How dare they!"

That can only mean that Trump's enemies have bought off Fox News pollsters.

Initially, when children were taken, there weren't issues of broken homes, drugs and alcohol. There were family relationships that White people didn't understand. There were traditions and beliefs White people didn't understand. White people concluded that these were "heathen" and that the duty of White Christians was to save the children by taking them out of the community, to stamp out this heathen culture. When kids were taken and communities devestated, some adults probably did take up alcohol. Some probably committed suicide. Some probably decided White people were right and rejected their own culture. Its interesting that the villages that could hide even one child from the priest or police remained healthier (relatively speaking) than those communities that lost all their children. When these kids were released from res schools or foster care, they were strangers in their homes because they'd been trained, by their white teachers and caretakers, to reject their own culture. They were rejected by the larger white society because they were natives. Many of these kids turned to alcohol and drugs because of the pain of not belonging anywhere. When children were born to them, many had no idea how to parent because they'd been raised in an institution or used by foster families essentially as slaves. The prevalence of sexual abuse directed towards these kids also affected their ability to function and parent. Children born to these parents were raised by broken people, and along came the White "saviour" again - to take them out of their homes, away from from their parents and what was left of their culture. And the cycle repeated. Did you know the first residential schools opened in the 1870s and the last one closed in 1996? How many generstions is that of kids removed from families and raised in an institution where physical and sexual abuse are common? And of course, not every white caretaker was abusive, but many were - and many kids suffered. Today, in many communities, First Nations are healing themselves. The kids who avoided being taken became the repository of First Nations culture, but there weren't many of them and its a long process to reach everybody who was affected by these policies, and to heal them through connecting them with their history and their culture. You don't need to feel guilty about decisions made by white people in the 1870s or 1960s, or even anyone else at any time - those decisions and actions have nothing to do with you. I have no guilt for that, myself. What I do have is empathy for people who, through actions taken by government, have experienced intense pain and suffering. As much as I'm able, I want to support them in healing and acknowledging their experience. If you feel guilty for anything, it should be your rejection of what happened to them as "Overblown emotional poppycock with no basis". That is on you, entirely. If you can feel empathy for seniors removed from family contact for a few months because of Covid, why do you reject empathy for children removed from family for years?

I'd be happy to let you have your old life back, and I'd like to have my old life back too. Have you considered attending or organizing one of those "Covid parties"; they seem to have the right idea to prove there is no Covid by trying to get sick with it. Do that, come back here and report on how none of you ended up getting sick/getting hospitalized/getting ventilated/dying. Your success in this regard may convince us unbelievers, who knows? Perhaps your experience could be used to single-handedly change the course of BC's pandemic handling. Works for me.

@Argus You're so predictable, its amusing. Only took three posts to have you going off on a racist rant.

Basic English: "Preference for" is same as "bias against". If it's a natural human tendency to have a preference for people like oneself, then its a natural human tendency to have bias against people unlike oneself. That's racism. Well the personna you present in this forum makes very negative assumptions about Black people, Brown people, people in religious dress and people who express views that you don't like. But you're right, you're offline personna might be the most tolerant, accepting and immigrant-welcoming Canadian in history. And my offline personna might have voted for the PPC last election.

So everybody is racist then, right? Except there are people, such as yourself, who looks at someone's skin color, mode of dress, and makes all kinds of assumptions about their beliefs, level or likelihood of criminality, laziness, willingness or ability to work and pay enough taxes.

Is the video objective, not slanted at all? Hard to tell from the title. /s

Me too, thank you for saying this so well. My neighborhood would be so much less interesting filled with all-white people, doing all the same things in all the same fashions. Yeah sometimes the curry smell is a bit overpowering, but I'd miss the beautiful saris and the color coordination of turbans with today's outfit. And who doesn't love the lights of Diwali from October to November? Or driving by the beautiful architecture of various Churches, Temples and Mosques? Giving up Chinese New Year or the annual Greek Days Festival just to keep Canada White isn't acceptable, and think of the food we'd lose without immigration. Middle Eastern food is some of the best food I've ever tasted, not as spicy as SA, much tastier than the bland British food I grew up with. Who would really want to give up Sushi or Pho or Greek or Italian or real Chinese food in exchange for the meat/potatoe/vegetable Canadian speciality (though I love that too, of course). My life is much richer because of immigrants to this country. And the ability to be accepting and tolerant, as a country, is a strength. It gives us friends around the world. ETA ... I forgot to say that one of the best feelings in the world is connecting with someone you thought was so different, and finding out just how similiar you are under the skin, or even under the religion or political ideology.

You say that everytime you make the claim that people prefer those who are most like them - whites prefer whites, SA prefer other SA, Asians prefer Asians, etc - when it comes to neighborhoods, employees, customers, business partners. You can't have it both that white people naturally and unsurprisingly show preference for white people, and also aren't racist.

Shady would prefer that companies/governments continue to get sued because uneducated people who think racism doesn't exist continue to discriminate against certain groups. McDonald's sued. Five companies lost discrimination suits Canadian gov to settle racial harassment suit Black US farmers recieve 1.25B from USDA for racial discrimination

It really just makes me want to withdraw, but I don't think that's a solution. I do my level best to remove my own bias, but I'm only human. It's disheartening to be looking for accuracy, and have so much noise to deal with. I spend lots of time reminding myself that even people I think are stupid as fck, probably aren't. Its not a good feeling to consider that everything I believe today is wrong; it reminds me of how I felt in a relationship in which I was gaslighted. No wonder people run from that feeling, deeper into their own rabbit hole. But another side of me, a more removed part, is fascinated by this apparent devolution of society, wonder where it will lead, and even whether older people in the 1960s felt the same as women's rights and African-American rights and openly sexual behavior changed the culture. Should have gone to university and studied history I think.

I think that's unreasonable; if people can't tell the difference between a foreign word and an English slur, that's their problem imo. The letter essentially says it's not about the word, but the sound of the word!? They claim the mere sound of ne'ga is polarizing and thus a poor example of whatever the instructor was teaching. Ridiculous, in my opinion.

I'm pretty sure many of us agree more than we disagree on stuff, at the individual level. I don't know why that can't come out more in online forums, myself included. Islam: you mistake me for someone who cares about religion. They're all stupid and their adherents can all potentially use their religious teachings to oppress and kill non-believers or non-conformists. It's the individual and how they interpret their faith who matters.

The Conservative party did the same to me .... can't post on their FB page (5 years now), cause I failed to properly admire Scheer. I wasn't even particularly obstreperous, merely pointed out a couple of exaggerations in their claims. Still regularly see anti-Trudeau posts on the Liberal FB page, however and short of threatening physical harm, they don't seem to be taking them down. Also, there's a subreddit that will only allow conservatives to post; no other viewpoints welcome. I haven't seen anything similar from the left, but there's a lot of subs, so it could well be there. Point being that not wanting to hear any side but your own is not limited to any particular ideology. As it happens, I like the center-right posters on this forum and don't particularly care for the extreme left-wing posters on the other forum. This preference for more moderate opinions dictate which posts I'm more likely to read, and which posts I'm more likely to skip. (It's rather interesting that people claim all viewpoints should be welcome in all venues, because "bad ideas in the marketplace of ideas will be shouted down", but when a bad idea is shouted down, the speaker says "I'm being unfairly attacked and shut down; I'm entitled to be heard!")