dialamah

You are one of those that deny the benefit of mask wearing and in your last post proposed spending billions on building places "for the vulnerable" (while clearly not understanding just who "the vulnerable" encompasses), so that rest of society could continue on as normal. Also, I read your post. If you intended to say something else, that's on you, not me. If people are misunderstanding you, you need to learn to express yourself better. I'm happy to wait while you formulate an intelligent answer. I'd truly like to read one.

Hospitals overwhelmed aren't "what-if" scenarios. Its already happened around the world, and is now happening in Utah, where plans are in place to ration care, and give preference to young people over old people, because so many are sick with Covid. Just because these things haven't happened in Canada yet doesn't mean they couldn't. Do you even know who the "vulnerable" are? Its not just old people; its people with diabetes, heart disease, cancer, or cancer survivors, COPD, overweight/obese, liver disease, kidney disease, hypothyroidism, transplant patients - the list could go on and on. We can't take 20% or 30% or 50% of the population and separate them from everybody else, thats just dumb. And its not just having a lack of beds to put sick people-its medical staff to take care of them. Medical staff also get sick and die; some will burn out. In places where hospitals were overwhelmed, they spent months away from their family because they didn't want to put kids, spouses, parents at risk. Also, a few months ago you were crying about old people in care homes not being able to see families - how terrible that was. Now, suddenly, its your solution. What has changed? Reducing, as much as possible, the spread of this virus is the most sensible course of action. Our shut-down earlier this year, soft as it was, saved lives. Authorities everywhere want to avoid another shutdown, hard or soft, and are attempting to slow the spread through other means - including curfews, masks, limits on gathering. But of course, there's that subset of society who think their rights to live life as if there is no pandemic trumps the rights of the rest of us - including the vulnerable - to be as safe as we can and remain part of society.

Not even Trump is donating to his campaign. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/522266-trump-has-not-donated-to-his-own-reelection-campaign

Don't assume every Muslim is a criminal.

Sure, I can agree that the law of the land should be paramount, regardless of one's personal beliefs. On the other hand, not all laws are just. India's laws which effectively prevents Muslims from citizenship, China's laws allowing Urghers to be put in jail, or Egypt's laws allowing them to put LGBTQ+ people in jail are all unjust laws. And, in my opinion, laws which prevent people from wearing religious garb is also unjust. So? Skiers/snowshoers/skidoers wear balaclavas, but that doesn't make them all criminals because some people wear them to rob banks.

Its sad when people can't tell the difference between religious garb and hiding one's identity for criminal activity. Grab a clue, man.

Triage - a better option than wearing a mask or staying home, I guess.

At least a half dozen Muslims on my FB feed condemned this attack, as I'm sure most do. And yeah, extremists of any stripe target those most disadvantaged (or who feel most disadvantaged) in society for recruits.

I don't see that; you use sources and sites, just as many others do. And while you prefer sources and sites that tend to go against the mainstream, that doesn't mean they're automatically right. But to be fair, the one thing I agree you raised earlier than most was the issue of mental health due to lockdowns or restrictions. So a reasonable question might be - is an uptick in mental health issues worth making sure our hospitals and medical systems weren't overwhelmed by covid patients at the onset of the pandemic? Was the attempt at avoiding scenarios like Italy, Spain and New York successful? I think it was. I understand people are suffering, but I daresay the ones complaining the most are the ones who have not been personally affected by the death or serious and long-term illness of a loved one - whether old or young - from Covid. While you seem to prefer to focus on momentary (relatively speaking) discomfort of job loss, isolation or mask wearing, others prefer to focus on avoiding, as much as possible, the permanency of death to ourselves or people we care about. Yes, my heart hurts for those who are facing financial hardship and loneliness, people trapped in homes in which they do not feel safe, just as my heart hurts for people who've already been affected by Covid. But death is permanent, while the other effects are not. So I put considerably more importance on efforts to reduce the spread of Covid and thus save lives. I don't really suppose you are 100% wrong, or I am 100% right, except about the usefulness of mask wearing.

Especially if you ignore the information that debunks your claims.

Maybe Trump figures if he loses, he'll kill as many Americans as he can on his way out

Muslim extremists in France have been very violent. Maybe you need to condemn that violence instead of criticizing the people that have been attacked.

So, you criticized people alone in cars, wearing masks. Yet, "tight techniques" means cleaning one's hands, donning the mask, leaving it alone till they're done with mask wearing, cleaning their hands, removing and discarding (or cleaning) the mask. Basically, you made fun of people who could reasonably be seen as practicing good mask-wearing technique. Why would you do that? Nope. Its "protect the vulnerable", with no plausible explanation of how to do that. Lets see who catches it - we who take care, or you who do not.

Applies to too many Canadians.

Aren't you one of those who say "protect the vulnerable"? He's one of the "vulnerable", but you continue to denounce mask-wearing despite all the information confirming that mask-wearing helps protect people from this virus. So please, explain how you propose the vulnerable be protected, if not by including masks with distancing and hand washing? https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449 https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/cloth-masks-do-protect-the-wearer-breathing-in-less-coronavirus-means-you

No, he's not ok.

A few months ago @OftenWrongwas weeping over the fact that gramma couldn't have visitors, to "prove" his personal theory about Covid response. Now he's happily counting her death to "prove" his personal theory about Covid response.

Yeah, I like that outcome too. Liberals needed a wake up call and now they have one.

How Trump has subverted the rule of law as President. About 10 minutes long.

What an incredibly inhumane comment. Maybe you should learn that its wrong to kill people who think or believe differently than you. We need fewer Muslims who think like you and that kid, and more like my brother-in-law and my neighbor, who don't support the death penalty against non-believers. What an ugly person you are.

Trump does that all the time. Do you think he's a dictator-in-waiting?

I wish I could understand why this non-sequitur is so important to you that you repeat it so often. Do you have some kind of inferiority complex that demands you reassure yourself of how important you are via your association with your country/president? Like, give it a rest - maybe get some counselling.

Well, that explains a lot - thanks for the info.

I follow that which is relevant. You should do the same; maybe you'd be less confused.