Hal 9000

I've googled "sexual assaults by mob - Times Square" and this is the first thing that came up. Weird eh. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/05/egypt-women-rape-sexual-assault-tahrir-square

More than 150 young girls (in numerous cities) have reported being chased through the streets, dragged to the ground, clothes tore off and sexually molested - then robbed by several gangs of 25-30 arab looking men. What here is not a fact?

So, if these guys are not "moderate", then they are "radical" muslims and the UN and Germany have allowed them in, then what we have is a whole lot of radical islamists roaming around western europe and integrating into the refugee numbers - Is that what your saying?

@ WCR, I don't think I have ever seen you side with the male side or male perspective over the female perspective ever. If there is a college couple on date that ends with a "he said/she said", you wind us up about rape culture, but on this...you've got nothing? When you ask why I think these guys will go uncharged (or minimal charges), I just look at your reactions here and know. With the lack of respect that most muslim men have for women, it seems inevitable that sooner or later, you would be forced to one side - I'm a little surprised at you really.

I gave a fact. What about my statement is not factual?

They're not my facts, they're everybody's facts. That's what a fact is. The nice thing about a "fact" is that they are the same for everybody.

The facts so far are thus; More than 150 young girls (in numerous cities) have reported being chased through the streets, dragged to the ground, clothes tore off and sexually molested - then robbed by several gangs of 25-30 arab looking men.

No we don't. I gave an opinion and asked yours - thats all.

^^ How about this WCR, If there are no sexual assault charges, what would be the reason why? Here I thought you and I would be on the same page with this on - how awkward!

^^^ I have said that they probably won't get charged...that I doubt they'll get charged. That's an opinion! What is your opinion, do you expect charges? If not, then why?

I know because i've already seen the interviews with the politicians and police trying to worm out of it. At best they'll say it was just some every day robberies (because, y'know they're just poor people that need money for food) and steer as far away from the sexual assault and rape allegations as possible. By saying it's ridiculous, are you saying that you expect charges or that you simply don't believe the women?

I don't think anyone has been charged, and I doubt there will be charges (unless actual semen is found on a girl). That's the problem. For various reasons, they'll get away with it. These ba%+Erds will actually get away with sexually assaulting women in the streets of Germany in front on thousands of people.

Yes, a white person can do something bad, so can a black, a jew, an asian...or any other person. And, I would agree with you if what happened was simply one muslim man assaulting one woman. What we saw here was a systemic mind set by literally hundreds of men who clearly all think the same way. When has a group of 25 white guys (or blacks, asians, jews etc) chased down and sexually assaulted a girl...Let alone several groups chasing down several girls in multiple cities. Sorry, this is their "normal". You can call them the 1%, but they're not the radicals, they are the "moderates". They are the "good" ones - the ones we want to bring in.

Well, open a thread on it and I'll probably agree with you on many things. But, this is not that thread.

Who gives a crap about percentages. I'm sure it's of no comfort that was only a small percentage of women who were sexually assaulted. I listened to a girl tell that she had 25 men actually chase her down, hold her on the ground, tear off her clothes - grabbing her bits and robbed her. I have no interest in the math involved, what I do know is that it's a similar story as 125 other women on that night. And that's just the ones that got caught. Woman described it as running the gauntlet. This was planned, this was several groups of men planning attacks on young girls.

Whew, you guys were finally able to generate a straw man that could relieve you from the actual truth of the actual situation that we're talking about - close one!

You guys constantly say, "It could've whites"or "it could've been Christians/Catholics", but it's not - Is it? No, it's muslims...again. Did you know or suspect that it was gonna be muslims before you read the whole article? Sadly, I did! Tell me Dialamah, are you OK with what happened in Germany? Are you really gonna just shrug your shoulders and make some inept attempt to correlate it to sex tourism. Your sister married a muslim, they're very happy, I get it. But you can't just dismiss 125 women getting sexually abused in one night....can you?

I'm flippant because of where we are now, because this behaviour was predicted and fell on deaf ears. You guy's keep saying that we deserve whatever we get, I have a hard time with that concept when I see what happened on NYE. But, the europeans want to travel down that road, and surely some (if not most) of these victims, were all for allowing these people into their country and neighbourhoods - So, maybe you people are right - maybe there is some truth to getting just desserts. All I know, is that I'm not willing to give up my daughter to this behaviour in the name of guilt or because Justin saw an awful picture of a dead boy on a beach somewhere.

Easily! First off, the police have a hard time placing charges when an entire group is at work. Eg. MC clubs and rioters. Also, politics - does the "Time - person of the year" want to admit that the Germans have made a huge mistake in their open boarders immigration policy? I think not! Merkel's decisions have made victims out of 125 german women - the optics aren't good. P.S - It makes more sense than 125 right wing women getting together and staging sexual abuse, robbery and assault.

So, uhhmmm. Where's WCR in all of this. We've had a situation of 120 some odd cases of sexual abuse of women in one night by 1000 men - IN ONE NIGHT! And, she's nowhere to be found! What a shame, I was looking forward to discussing a topic that her and I could agree on.

We could try doing what they've done in Denmark and try encouraging them to take courses on how to not rape women. http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151029/1029282939/denmark-migrants-rape-consent-education.html Questions like: If she has her hair uncovered, are you allowed to rape her? Yes or No! If her ankles are exposed, are you allowed to rape her? Yes or No! If she is wearing a bikini, are you allowed to rape her? Yes or No!

I should've put the word moderate in quotations.

But, you can't claim that Hillary scores very high on the "emotional stability scale" either.

Encouraging them to stay there. Enabling them to say there. Allowing them to stay there Whatever term you prefer! The fact is; Reserves (rural and isolated) are rampant with addiction, abuse, pedophilia, incest, illiteracy, poverty, suicide, starvation and health/mental issues among other things and only contributes to the genocide and erosion of the First Nations people. Their only chance at survival is to bring them into the 21st century.

This is exactly what people like Kimmey and many of us were talking about for the last couple of months about the social construct of these muslims. These guys aren't radicals, they are the moderates. They are the ones that we are letting in based on the idea that "we're all the same" and "the moderates just want to live in peace and happiness" yada yada. The problem is in the numbers, no longer can we just profess that "it's just one muslim guy", "it's an isolated event" or "even a christian will sometimes grope a woman". This is a group thought, this is what their culture feels is acceptable treatment of women or at the very least, they don't care about women and know they won't be held accountable. Could a western/christian guy grope or rape? Sure! Could even 2 or 3 gang up on woman? Sure, in rare and isolated events! But for several hundred or a thousand men to have that thought process at the same time, and the same event and even in different cities is staggering. Surely, this must prove or at least greatly support Kimmey's claim that even moderate muslims could pose serious problems to women and gays of western society.