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"Most people who became infected during the SARS epidemic — that virus is a close cousin of the new coronavirus, called SARS-CoV-2 — had long-term immunity lasting eight to 10 years, said Vineet D. Menachery, a virologist at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston."

This video depicts everything. Blissfull ignorance about dangers from abroad, open orders as an ideal rather than a means for something, total inaction against a real threat, implying people who want to implement measures as racists as to oppose the pro Europeans as being tolerant and kind... Europe has lost Italy in 2020. It's a matter of when Italy leaves the EU, not if.

The only thing which impresses me is actions taken to mitigate the damage of this. So the countries I have praised are South Korea, Singapore, and Taiwan. A step below that are Australia and Germany.

I'm so with you on that.

They have no news of criminal activity any more. All they talk about is sanitizing, washing hands, buying masks, tenant eviction restrictions or rent raise suspensions and what not. There is virtually no regular news any more. Well, some of it is due to cancelled events that did not take place to get in the news. Also how can one in the US do a mass shooting at a theater, school, concert or workplace when those are closed. (sarc.)

What am I talking about, it's probably Fruit Loops.

Home is where they should be staying, eyeball. They were told to shelter in place. That does not mean traveling to your part-time cottage in a rural area.

Neither of them announced much of anything but wishful thinking before last week.

Sounds good to me but I still think we should still have a plan for at least an 18 month economic hiatus. I completely understand where the urge for putting this behind us quickly is coming from because I share it too.

Yah but do not tell anyone that.

Great question. I guess we will learn. Hey my other posts on read back sound know it all to you. I only mean to debate. That said and I know you know that yah I too wonder what will change I response to your comment .Surely the stuff we do in crowds will change...or do we revert back to what we dide like we did with Sars. Had we finished what we started in response to sars, we should have implemented with Sars..this would not be so bad..but we did not put in place early testing and proper hygiene protocols and this is the major reason we now have to social distance buying time to now to do implement this. Hindsight. I hope to fuck we learn from it..

It's interesting to note, that this disease has only really ravaged First world economies. It hasn't ravaged countries in Central America, South America the Caribbean or Africa. Could that be weather? Or the fact that it's easier for governments in poor countries to control the populace. Who knows?

Well, yes, at some point in the near future, a few weeks, a month, things are going to need to be opened back up. And those that are high risk need to stay home. Also, please stop bringing up Trump in everything, it's not necessary.

Sure people die as a natural part of life. But not the the extent we've seen in countries that have been ravaged by this disease. Is it common to not have a big enough morgue for the bodies? Or mass graves like seen in Iran? In one New York hospital, they had to bring in a refrigerated truck for the excess bodies. Any attempt to normalize this pandemic is dangerous and reckless. This is not normal!

It's, quite frankly, hilarious that Trump isn't at all to blame for the dire situation the US is in. And at the same time, Trudeau IS to blame for a crisis that hasn't yet materialized in Canada. Partisanship indeed.

Me too! I just hate that we have given up all we have for projections /estimates/modelling that have never appeared, and should have by this point. The interesting thing about that nejm article i posted is the dichotomy it creates with his on-air narrative for us and his professional narrative for his peers.

nope this is from the new england journal of medicine dated march 26, 2020, written by the main man himself, dr. fauci: from the cdc in america: 38 000 000 - 54 000 000 seasonal flu illnesses for the current flu season to to day (oct 1, 2019 - march 1, 2020), with 400 000 - 730 000 hospitalizations and 24 000 - 62 000 deaths compared with cdc for corona to march 30, 2020: 140 904 illnesses with 2 405 deaths please help me understand how you arrived at your conclusions?

OTOH you can rent out half a divided house to pay the mortgage on the whole thing.

Clearly a Liberal.

Interesting COVID-19 exchange from the World Health Organization vis-a-vis Taiwan....complicit with China...the WHO doctor is Canadian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCYFh8U2xM

Uh, no. Doctors, nurses, facilities could be so overwhelmed with the 3 or 4 percent of serious and critical Covid 19 patients that despite their best efforts and intentions, an injury that you'd normally recover from, you don't. No, you don't just get money. You have to prove negligence on their part, and that may hard to prove in these circumstances. Medical staff are neither superhuman, nor infallible - if they are exhausted, stressed, overworked, short-staffed, scared, they will make mistakes, people will be sicker than they need to be and some will die. Minimizing this disease because most people don't die and many barely get sick demonstrates a serious lack of understanding and compassion ... and perhaps this is why: This has nothing to do with God; our behavior directly impacts how well we come out of this and how many people die. "God" is merely a disinterested and by all evidence, a powerless observer, supposing one exists at all.

People have already gotten it and become immune. They haven't had to wait for a vaccine.

Look I'm not a very religious man either, I will not blow smoke up your arse and say I have not prayed to the big guy in my time of need, lots of times as a soldier, when my each one of my kids were born, I will say I do not attend church except for funerals and weddings... That being said I find it a little ironic that you don't like it when they impose THIER VALUES on everyone else, but it's ok for others to impose your beliefs on them...things like gay marriage and abortion rights are off the table.. And if you do want to talk about these issues well they deserve to be ridiculed…. key word here is ridiculed...I wonder what else is off limits ? Lots of things are basic rights, clean drinking water ? how about basic shelter ? don't get me wrong I'm not native or do I beat their drum, but when it comes down to being treated equal there are a lot of groups that have lagged behind like the few I mentioned, and those that are the squeaky wheel are getting all the attention because of powerful lobby groups...Today we think that if you do not dance with the LGBT folks your a piece of shit, and own all the ridicule you get......regardless of your own personal values or opinion..