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Again we see how Hot Enough has tried to hijack this thread to discuss his disjointed, simplistic one trick mantra of pissing on the US, period. His posts are indistinguishable no matter what the subject of the thread is. Getting back to the actual thread topic I do remember Omni for many posts claiming how Trudeau saved us all money by settling with Kadr. Omni could not fathom by not referring the matter to the Supreme Court of Canada to determine if the dirty hands doctrine applied, Trudeau has now put down a precedent of paying off people millions and so in the last 5 months like moths to flies we now have people lining up asking for multi-millions in settlements for violations of their rights. Next is Djamel Ameziane. He claims Canadian officials helped Americans. Ameziane was in Gitmo 11 years. He was released in 2013. He lived in Montreal in the 1990's for 5 years and was denied refugee status. Then he moved on to other countries. He was never born in Canada nor a citizen of Canada but hey he's now suing us $50 million and he openly stated he's suing us because the Kadr case says he can. Is he suing the US or anyone else? Of course not. Aside from Omni and the Liberals who did not see this coming or the others now suing this country? How could Trudeau or Omni not understand what it means to not test the dirty hands doctrine and set a precedent this country pays people like Kadr and Ameziane. Ameziane is laughing his butt off and has a FREE lawyer working on contingency basis. Oh how's this for Islamophobia....when in Montreal he attended the same mosque as am Al Quaida cell which is why Canada notified the Americans of that fact after he left Canada. Yah that's worth 50 million.

If you want people to take you seriously, you need to end this stupid shit. NK is fucked because of itself not anyone else and castro should have picked america instead of USSR to be friends with.

In a transparent attempt at getting more ethnic votes, the Liberals announced that they are increasing the immigration rate to 350,000 per year from the present 300,000 which was raised just two years ago from 250,000. This comes on top of census information that says Canada's foreign born population is already by far the highest in the western world at over 20%. The US and UK, by comparison, are at about 13%. Canada's foreign-born population was already going to rise to about 29% in twenty years according to the census, but this increase will accelerate that. So soon a third of Canadians will be foreign born - and the number will rise from there. The supposed justification is that Canada needs more people because of our aging population and a shortage of workers. Both are outright lies, but have been said so often they're rarely questioned. Especially since anyone who questions them gets called a racist, and because the other parties are eager for those ethnic votes too. The Fraser Institute has calculated the cost of our present immigration system at over $30 billion per year to all three levels of government based on the earnings of immigrants - who perform more poorly than Canadian born workers - vs how much government must spend on them. Furthermore, immigration CAN NOT keep our percentage of retirees from rising. Even Stats Can says so. A second study in less than a week has concluded that there is no labour shortage in Canada, nor is one expected to arrive in the next few decades. A study published Friday by a University of Lethbridge professor echoes results of a report by the federal government’s Parliamentary Budget Office released Tuesday — both conclude there are more than enough workers on a national basis in Canada to fill available jobs. http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/Study+debunks+Canadian+labour+shortage/9674478/story.html Dire warnings of a widespread Canadian labour crisis and a “lost generation” of young workers have been overblown, according to a market analysis by TD Economics. Deputy chief economist Derek Burleton says demographic and economic shifts may be hitting young workers particularly hard, but he doesn’t believe projections of across-the-board labour shortages and skills gaps. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/10/21/skills-gap-canada-labour-shortage_n_4138487.html Our population would be stabilized with immigration at only 100,000 http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/91-003-x/2007001/figures/4129879-eng.htm Canada would have to take in 2.6 million immigrants a year by 2020 and seven million by 2050 — raising its population to 165.4-million — if it wants to keep its ratio of retirees-toworkers at its current 20%, according to a study from the C.D. Howe Institute.

1. Obviously not the planes that the USGOCT alleges, that much is clear. No comments on these total impossibilities? 2. I don't know. Why should I know or why should I be expected to know? Do crime investigators know all all the time? 3. George Bush describes bombs and explosions in the twin towers after the planes hit and before the collapses. Don't you think he should be asked as to how these occurred? The seismic record shows that there was a huge basement explosion before the plane hit the WTC1. Is this not odd to you? I don't expect you to know, or to even have a clue. This isn't about you or me, and I'm sorry if I gave you an indication that I expected a detailed and complete analysis from you. I didn't and I don't. I only ask that you [and everyone else] think these things over and see if they pass the smell test that every thinking human possesses, even children. I don't understand what you are saying.

So HE, what struck the twin towers? What happened to the planes and passengers? Do you have an alternative chain of events as to what caused the explosions and fires before the towers collapsed? As far as the incorrect jet engine being found near the site I have no clue, how do you know. that wasn't made up? Did it fall off a truck that happened to be in the area? Who read the serial numbers off it? Was it an engine that was being tested on this aircraft? I can see no investigation being done to determine the cause of the crash as what happened is blatantly obvious. Especially the second plane.

Everything you have said is completely true. Windsor Tower is also not remotely close to the same kind of construction. What collapsed was lightweight ferro/concrete exterior walls. WTC steel was most certainly not lightweight and it was not surrounded by concrete. I thank you for your honesty, Tostb. It is incredibly refreshing to see this kind of honesty and bravery. Shouldn't we, the honest and open WEST be able to fully discuss absolutely anything? As regards the aircraft, don't you consider it at least as equally odd as the twin towers collapses that not one of the roughly four million serial numbered parts from any of the four alleged 911 planes has been positively identified as coming from the alleged aircraft, matched to any of the 4 aircraft? This has never ever happened before in aviation history. Here is a highly trained airline accident investigator has to say about this incredible impossibility: Don't you consider it odd, incredibly odd, impossible, that the engine we see flying out of the north face of WTC2, the one that landed on Murray Street, is not an engine that was ever installed in United Airlines 767-200s, one of which, UA175, was alleged to be the plane that hit WTC2? Do you consider it odd, incredibly strange that the odds of the USGOCT happening as the US government says is 54 Trillion to one? But those odds are actually much much too low. It is actually 100% impossible that the USGOCT is true. Why? Because of all the impossible things that have occurred that the alleged 19 Arab hijackers could not have done. 1. Melted steel 2. Vaporized steel/lead 3. Melted molybdenum 4. Brought US government/military non-commercially available nanothermite, developed in the 1990s by US military labs to the WTC and caused unreacted/unexploded particles of it to be in WTC dust 5. Hijackers could not have even brought regular thermite/thermate to the WTC. 6. Hijackers could not suspend the laws of physics and cause WTC7 to fall at free fall speed, especially when they didn't come within two football field of said building. 7. Hijackers could not suspend the laws of physics and cause the twin towers to fall at accelerating speed. That too is against Newton's Laws of Motion. 8. Caused 6% of WTC dust to consist of iron microspheres which are one of the main by products of thermite/thermate/nanothermite reactions. Normal office dust contains 0.04% iron spheres. There are many more total impossibilities. One of the major ones is that there is no actual evidence for the USGOCT. I have been asking for some for a long long time and none has ever been advanced.

Soldiers don't really have a sense of what they are signing up for. The chance of dying isn't that much greater than many other occupations in Canada - ie heli logging etc. The difference is that they're likely to be traumatized through seeing their friends killed or maimed, as well as being in a state of constant danger. Compare that to the people getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions because someone kissed them without asking or groped them. Or made some inappropriate jokes around the office. I'm not saying any of those things are right, but the claims for compensation for PTSD around the workplace should be compared to what soldiers go through, before we decide how to dole out the money, espeically when the deep-pocketed governments are the ones paying the bill because one of three million employees acted inappropropriately.

Oh oh, time to watch my back? The natives will be coming over the hill any moment now? You wouldn't be visiting from an alternate universe by any chance?

This thread is about Liberal immigration policy not Hot Enough's simplistic disjointed repeat hijacking of threads to repeat his anti US mantra. Now as we speak the fool Trudeau has sent MP's in a state of panic down South. He's just realiZed with his collapsed borders policy there are at least 5,000 Hondurans and 86,000 Hondurans and 200,000 Salvadorans all about to flood Canada not to mention Mexicans and South American states not to mention more people from Haiti. Our immigration system is in a state of total breakdown and chaos with the refugee system now backed up a minimum of 3 years meaning automatic acceptance now of thousands of refugee applicants who are not refugees but will now flood the refugee system knowing with the back-log they can use a Charter of Rights challenge of undue delay to automatically win their applications. This is an absolute travesty to genuine immigrants and refugees and to the security of the state. God knows how many terrorists, criminals, are walking in. Let's also be clear. The 1 million Trudeau plans to bring in the next 3 years does not include all these illegals swamping us. You may as well double that rate.

Indeed....not only do I LOVE THE USA, but so do many many millions of legal and illegal immigrants....more than any other nation on the planet. Even Canadian snowbirds LOVE THE USA, especially when winter comes a callin'.

I seem to notice that no matter what the thread these days, I keep seeing a tse tse fly show up singing: "blame America". Never mind the topic of the thread, just throw in a blame America comment. Its a one size fits all approach. So for example when Chinese or Indians migrate its not because of water shortages. When there is a huge migration of Africans its not because of water shortage creating wide spread famine. Its the fault of the US. If Trudeau allows illegal migrants to make a mockery of Canadian immigration law, its America's fault. If Syria has a civil war generating refugees, its America's fault. So this brings me to my new rap so what's new do you blame a jew or to be frank blame some Yank well now wait you could blame Kuwait or get all quirky and blame it all on Turkey hey now you could take a stance and piss on France or wouldn't it be grand to blame Finland or blame your diaheria on North Korea and don't make be go on about Lebanon and who can really give a hand to Aghanistan and who could forgo that evil Mexico and do I need to play my Tuba to get you to criticize Cuba and need I get all weighty about that country Haiti and man what about all them mentally ill yah you know they call themselves Brazil oh just fine but what about Leuchenstein now I end this and go but not before blaming it all on Togo

Just put him in ignore list its the best thing in this forum

The original cultural of Canada was aboriginal. He have a reluctant recognition of this but a lot of lipservice towards it but we are at least openly admitting this now as part of Canadian identity. Then we have British and French. These two countries and their legal systems after the aboriginals, formed this country. The basis of our laws is a British Parliamentary system amd a mix of British and French legal traditions and yet anything associated with either or for that matter the ethnic groups that came from Europe seem to be automatically labelled oppressor and "white" these days and I do not like that so I agree with you Blackbird. My culture Jewish, is one of many that came after the British and French and I have no problem with that chronology and conforming to and paying deference to British legal traditions. Zero problem. I don't expect otherwise. I don't have a damn problem with the aboriginal parallel legal imperative either. To me all us minorities Jewish, Chinese, Greek, Italian, West Indian, Siekh, Filippino, Ukrainian, I would say the vast majority of us minorities so to speak have zero problem with the founding cultures. Why would we? We came here to start again and the British legal system provided a stability to enable that. I don't get today's political trend where anything from Europe is defined as white and racist. Its not white and its not racist. People can be discriminatory against other cultures, ethnicities, gender, etc., but those beliefs can't be magically erased by using government to engage in reverse bigotry. The question is we may have goen too far in trying to show just how tolerant we are of anyone other than someone not from a supposed visible minority or non Christian country. I am not sure. The immigration policy claims to be colour and religious blind but its clearly not. The decision of this government to enable the collapse of the borders at this time to allow thousands of illegal migrants from the US to swamp and undermine and make a mockery of our immigration system in my personal opinion is based on ethnic pandering at its worst which I would argue is a form of discrimination in favour of certain ethnicities. Its a very tough issue because I want a country that welcomes immigrants for their new contributions. When I see it being used to enable unqualified people to jump the lines and break the law to get the law's benefit, I get angry,

Immigration policy is likely driven purely by politics and with a view to votes from ethnic communities who came from certain areas of the world. The more a political party has invested in those communities, the more it is beholden to them in the future. The percentage coming from western Europe was greatly reduced decades ago with large increases from Asia, the middle east and Africa. I suspect no consideration will be given to protecting our western style culture since Trudeau says there is no such thing as Canadian values and "diversity is our strength". Many of these people who should be integrating have no intention of doing so and do not like our western culture. Western Europe made this same mistake and is now paying for it.

Its more then a lack of education G. I would put him on ignore. Don't waste your energy.

Are you saying that those two million unemployed Canadians don't want to work because they don't want to do the jobs that Canadians once did long ago before the third world immigrants started flooding this country, and who now do those jobs for half the salary as to what Canadians use to make 60 years ago when they did the sweeping of floors and washing the dishes back then? Sure there are some who do not want to work, but I am pretty sure that not all of those two million want to sit around on their asses and do nothing. Just pay them a decent salary with decent benefits. This lie that we need more immigrants is one big farce. Canada was doing quite well long before Canada started to flood this country with the third world. All it means by having more immigrants is that you need more of everything. Canada was doing well with the population that it had 60 years ago. Canadians were having children and all was well. Even the minister of immigration in the liberal party way back in the early sixties said that as many people die in Canada they are replaced by newborns. He should know. One of the reasons today why we are being told that we are not having enough children and Canada needs more immigration is the excuse for big corporations and the rich elite to keep bringing in and be able to hire these third world immigrants at cheap wages. It makes sense that if a country brings in more immigrants than there has to be more jobs created and more infrastructure needed. With quotas now being a part of the hiring process for all three levels of governments is that they MUST hire new third world immigrants as their hiring policy. Thus many of those two million unemployed Canadians could have been given most of those government jobs instead giving those jobs to strangers. Who really knows what the reason is for people leaving their home countries from the ones you mentioned above and want to move to Canada. They must have their own good reason for doing so. Politics can cause that. And who's to say as to those that came to Canada from those countries mentioned above were well off? You? Have you spoken to all of them? How would you know anyway? I left Quebec because I was sick of the french politics there and moved to BC because I needed the change. Sometimes change is good. Bull chit. I do not believe that the majority of Canadians want massive third world immigration. Where are your stats to back that up? Trudeau one the election because of the lame duck liberal left wing media who tried to make Harper look like another Trump and he would be bad for Canada if he stayed on as PM. Of course you say that you would want more immigration because you just want to make more money at Canada's expense. Your greed is what is killing Canada today. It shows me that your greed will one day end Canada and it's values and ways of life, it's culture, traditions, heritage, language which it would appear means nothing to you. To you it is all about the money dam the country. What's the matter? Are Canadians not good enough to rent too? New third world immigrants are your favorites?

Or blow insignificance out of proportion. There it is again...evoking terror over commies. The west won that squabble okay...time to get over it. I've heard it all before and my reply is the same. Attempting to absolve yourself is precisely what you're doing and the case for explaining your behaviour is that history made me do it. Now just run that past a truth and reconciliation process and maybe you'd have something. I suspect just about everyone on a truth and reconciliation commission will be passing cornflakes through their nose if we send you to defend the west.

Nuh Uh. Those state officials are all elected. NOW!!!! in the US there's a problem that the governments manipulating voting districts so they can get results they want. Here in Canada that's done using a third party organization. But you don't care about any of that, you want to conflate treason and freedom of speech.

There were pictures taken of the engine by various independent sources. If it had fallen off a truck wouldn't you be even more suspicious? How could it have fallen off in the exact place that its trajectory, speed and flight path describe? Doesn't it make you at all suspicious that this engine was not saved for investigation, that it was just dumped in a Manhattan landfill? It wasn't serial numbers, it was a very noticeable part, readily identifiable in the picture, that was a part that was not used in UA 767-200s engines. Different manufacturer. That doesn't make you suspicious?