kuzadd Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 that the US is once again willing to sidestep the UN. US to sidestep Russia veto on Kosovo http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...697-601,00.html "For some time, the US has been pressing for Kosovo independence within the UN framework but due to Russia's strong opposition, it is now considering sidestepping the international body and unilaterally recognising the province as independent, the US State Department said Monday." well let's see...... http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/Kosovo/Political.asp "The determination by the U.S and NATO, at all costs, to occupy Kosovo and virtually all of Yugoslavia, is spurred on by the enticement of abundant natural resources. Kosovo alone has the richest mineral resources in all of Europe west of Russia. The New York Times observed that "the sprawling state-owned Trepca mining complex, the most valuable piece of real estate in the Balkans, is worth at least $5 billion." producing gold, silver, pure lead, zinc, cadmium, as well as tens of millions of dollars in profits annually. "Kosovo also possesses 17 billion tons of coal reserves and Kosovo (like Serbia and Albania) also has oil reserves." "A number of unofficial partition plans have been drawn up for Kosovo all raising the question of who would control an important northern mining region," the New York Times revealed. Trepca was also a "glittering prize" taken over by Hitler to fuel the Nazi war machine during WWII." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuzadd Posted June 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 one from Michael savage http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/11/30/51335 The Oily Tracks Running Through Kosovo Michael Savage November 30, 1999 Warning: Michael Savage is the most exciting and controversial radio host in America. The views expressed here are his own. Certified liberals and politically correct individuals should proceed with caution. LOL! Kosovo was about oil and nothing but oil, with maybe some uranium thrown in and a dash of "wag-the-dog." And you thought it was to save the poor Kosovar Albanians. Of all the ethnically "cleansed" peoples around the world, some numbering in the millions, the beneficent powers of NATO decided to draw the line with the Kosovar Albanians. About 2,000 of the ethnic Albanians had been reportedly killed by Serbs in the last several years, so it was time for the humanitarian guard to take action. No matter that about as many Serbs had been killed by the Albanians, and that Kosovo is a part of the sovereign state of Yugoslavia, and that this conflict had been ongoing for centuries. Big Oil required a pipeline through Kosovo and the poor Serbs just happened to own the wrong real estate at the wrong time. How do I know that the Kosovo action was about oil or, to be exact, about establishing a safe haven for an oil pipeline? Just recently Bill Clinton signed an historic agreement with Azerbaijan on this very matter. Azerbaijan is one of the former Soviet republics that became a separate country with the breakup of the USSR. Formerly, Caspian oil would have come into the world market as a Soviet export but not anymore. It now comes under the flag of this newly independent nation via Turkey where it is transshipped by way of Turkish seaports. And Russia has been deftly unlinked from the world oil market. Now, keen interest in Azerbaijani oil is nothing new. The Germans have had a compelling interest in this oil going back to 1905 and extending through the two world wars up to and including the present. One of Hitler’s primary goals in his push to the east was to capture the Azerbaijani oil fields. But where the Kaiser and Nazi Germany failed, it seems the New World Order — featuring Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, and other socialists — is going to succeed. The plan is now to route the oil in a way that will fulfill Germany’s long-sought-after objective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuzadd Posted June 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 That's the Trans-Balkan pipeline, BTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottSA Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Aren't we glad we saved the Kosovars? All those mass graves, so cleverly hidden that we didn't quite...well...find any? Turns out we not only went in foolishly, but we went in on the side of the terrorists, and gave them a great jumping off point right in the middle of Europe. Watch the video in this blog post. In spite of all of Cair-can's whining about "backlash," when is the last time anything remotely similar to this happened to a mosque in the west? http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/07/...urn-church.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Aren't we glad we saved the Kosovars? All those mass graves, so cleverly hidden that we didn't quite...well...find any? Turns out we not only went in foolishly, but we went in on the side of the terrorists, and gave them a great jumping off point right in the middle of Europe. Watch the video in this blog post. In spite of all of Cair-can's whining about "backlash," when is the last time anything remotely similar to this happened to a mosque in the west?http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/07/...urn-church.html Are you really that clueless? Did we take the wrong side in WWII because some blog told you so? Do you not have the mental capacity to do some more research into the matter? Yes, everyone over there is pretty extreme, but the crimes against humanity done by Milosevic are well documented. The mass graves were real. He needed to be stopped. Are there some crazy Muslims amongst the Kosovars? No doubt. Just like there are crazy Muslims amongst the Brits, doesn't mean we should bomb the hell out of them. There is no evidence, at all, of a policy of ethnic cleansing by the regional government there. There was a ton of evidence against the government of Bosnia systematically attempting to eliminate the Kosovars. I really don't know about people like you, so dangerous when they read some blog that agrees with their irrational hate and trust it as fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margrace Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Opps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottSA Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Aren't we glad we saved the Kosovars? All those mass graves, so cleverly hidden that we didn't quite...well...find any? Turns out we not only went in foolishly, but we went in on the side of the terrorists, and gave them a great jumping off point right in the middle of Europe. Watch the video in this blog post. In spite of all of Cair-can's whining about "backlash," when is the last time anything remotely similar to this happened to a mosque in the west?http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/07/...urn-church.html Are you really that clueless? Did we take the wrong side in WWII because some blog told you so? Do you not have the mental capacity to do some more research into the matter? Yes, everyone over there is pretty extreme, but the crimes against humanity done by Milosevic are well documented. The mass graves were real. He needed to be stopped. Are there some crazy Muslims amongst the Kosovars? No doubt. Just like there are crazy Muslims amongst the Brits, doesn't mean we should bomb the hell out of them. There is no evidence, at all, of a policy of ethnic cleansing by the regional government there. There was a ton of evidence against the government of Bosnia systematically attempting to eliminate the Kosovars. I really don't know about people like you, so dangerous when they read some blog that agrees with their irrational hate and trust it as fact. As it turns out, the alleged "mass graves" were for the most part battlefield graves of Kosovar or Albanian fighters. Look it up. The ethnic cleansing happened right after the war there actually, when all the Christians left or were killed. I sincerely doubt there are many non-Muslims living there now, so it's hardly necessary to ethnic cleanse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Oh goody..a Kosovo thread! NATO's Allied Force was ILLEGAL. There was no (tee-hee) United Nations Security Council resolution authorizing force against Milosevic. That means Chretien and Clinton committed a "war of aggression" (crimes against the peace and specific war crimes against civilians), along with Schroeder, Chirac, and Blair. Hell, Foreign Affairs Minister Lloyd Axworthy dismissed the UN as irrelevant. Bombs away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Not really. Action in Kosovo and Serbia was much less than a full scale war (airstrikes on selected targets, aimed at making Serbian authorities withdraw its army from Kosovo). At no time there was a presence of Nato troops on the ground which was not authorised by the UN (timeline). Such a "war" was going on in Iraq for a decade after Kuwait invasion (no fly zone, routine airstrikes on Iraqi installations) and I would have no problem if it continued until Iraq fully complied with its obligations. Also, could have been as a more efficient strategy for Afganistan but the US was too itchy for action after 9/11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottSA Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Not really. Action in Kosovo and Serbia was much less than a full scale war (airstrikes on selected targets, aimed at making Serbian authorities withdraw its army from Kosovo). At no time there was a presence of Nato troops on the ground which was not authorised by the UN (timeline).Such a "war" was going on in Iraq for a decade after Kuwait invasion (no fly zone, routine airstrikes on Iraqi installations) and I would have no problem if it continued until Iraq fully complied with its obligations. Also, could have been as a more efficient strategy for Afganistan but the US was too itchy for action after 9/11. Why do I so strongly suspect that when that interminable cat and mouse game was going on, you were in the forefront of those wringing their hands over 6 trillion Iraqi children dying due to the sanctions and a lack of babymilk factories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Not really. Action in Kosovo and Serbia was much less than a full scale war (airstrikes on selected targets, aimed at making Serbian authorities withdraw its army from Kosovo). At no time there was a presence of Nato troops on the ground which was not authorised by the UN (timeline).Such a "war" was going on in Iraq for a decade after Kuwait invasion (no fly zone, routine airstrikes on Iraqi installations) and I would have no problem if it continued until Iraq fully complied with its obligations. Also, could have been as a more efficient strategy for Afganistan but the US was too itchy for action after 9/11. Patently false for Kosovo...during Allied Force, there were special forces troops on the ground to paint targets for laser guided bombs...none were authorized by the UN. So you are "okay" with illegal bombing campaigns that kill thousands, violate sovereignty, and pave the way to invasion? I guess that also means you believe UNSC 687 was still in full force. Oh Canada..... committing WAR CRIMES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Why do I so strongly suspect that when that interminable cat and mouse game was going on, you were in the forefront of those wringing their hands over 6 trillion Iraqi children dying due to the sanctions and a lack of babymilk factories? Because she has a conscience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Krikey...we finally get a Kosovo thread going but now it's back to Iraq. However, Kosovo comments are quickly chased away from the Iraq-UN threads. That's because NATO's Allied Force is an "Inconvenient Truth". LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Michael Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Warning: Michael Savage is the most exciting and controversial radio host in America. The views expressed here are his own. Certified liberals and politically correct individuals should proceed with caution. This warning does not do justice to the name in question. This Michael Savage has a long history of publishing lies. A few minutes of Google can demonstrate the man's extreme neocon views and history of 'playing fast and loose' with facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Kosovo was important. It wasn't as important to the US as it was to Europe, but it was important for the US to show leadership in dealing with a nation nominally with the russian spere. Yugoslavia had for the previous 10 years engaged war and terror in attempting to assert control over the breakaway republics. There are mass graves. Most are in Croatia and Bosnia. The importance of Kosovo was the lesson it taught the Serbs. And for that, the Montenegrans are thankful. Mass Graves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Kosovo was important. It wasn't as important to the US as it was to Europe, but it was important for the US to show leadership in dealing with a nation nominally with the russian spere. Yes..it was important. NATO tested and broke the leash of an impotent UN. Rwanda set up the cover-story drama years before, and despite protests back home, it was bombs away. Clinton was a much better salesman than Bush, and Chretien didn't even bother to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottSA Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 It's not clear to me why the thread entitled "Kosovo" was erased, so I spose I have to repost the same thing here as was on the erased thread. I do hope that Greg hasn't created a monster in temporaly giving the keys to someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 It's not clear to me why the thread entitled "Kosovo" was erased, so I spose I have to repost the same thing here as was on the erased thread. I do hope that Greg hasn't created a monster in temporaly giving the keys to someone else. Thanks for confirming that...I was at a loss to explain what happened to your "Kosovo" thread. Must be the new sheriff in town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottSA Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Yeah, kinda confused me too. I hope it doesn't get to be a habit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 It's not clear to me why the thread entitled "Kosovo" was erased, so I spose I have to repost the same thing here as was on the erased thread.Nothing was deleted. The two threads were combined into this previous one created only a few weeks ago. All of the your posts are present in this very thread. Further explained in your Deleted threads thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Nothing was deleted. The two threads were combined into this previous one created only a few weeks ago. All of the your posts are present in this very thread. Using such logic, we should be able to collapse this entire forum into one massive thread....collapse them all into themselves like a neutron star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I think its safe to say anytime the US takes an interest in a country, it wants something back, either its natural resources or land for military headquarters in the region!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I think its safe to say anytime the US takes an interest in a country, it wants something back, either its natural resources or land for military headquarters in the region!!! Oh..you mean like all those Canadian mines in Central America, South America, Africa, and Asia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I think its safe to say anytime the US takes an interest in a country, it wants something back, either its natural resources or land for military headquarters in the region!!! Or something even less sensational like regional stability? FRY had the potential to escalate ionto a wider regional european war drawing in nations like Albania and greece to the south and Hungary to the north. On top of that the refugee problem was critical. NATO or the UN should have drawn theline when FRY tried to invade Slovenia, they should have drawn the line after Croatia......that is their shame.....but that doesn't mean that failling to draw ther line that they never should have afterwards......as I said earlier.....Montenegro and Macedonia are still peaceful, mainly because of NATO and the UN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Kosovo was important. It wasn't as important to the US as it was to Europe, but it was important for the US to show leadership in dealing with a nation nominally with the russian spere.Yugoslavia had for the previous 10 years engaged war and terror in attempting to assert control over the breakaway republics. There are mass graves. Most are in Croatia and Bosnia. The importance of Kosovo was the lesson it taught the Serbs. And for that, the Montenegrans are thankful. Mass Graves All a conspiracy M. Dancer, done by the Muslim media to encourage the US to support Jihad there. Duhh!! This one fits in right below false flag terror ops in the list of kookiness, with an added topping of racism. The graves are there, they are real, women were raped, villages burned to the ground. What else do we need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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