ALL CANNABIS CANADIANS VOTE GREEN

[shavluk]

I am going to run federally for the Canadian GREEN PARTY in the next federal election.

All people that believe any adults that use or want to use cannabis should be free from persecution or jail

Should vote green

Under justice and inclusion,,,,,in the Green Book

Yes actually in their policy book,,,

(The ndp told me they don't want to give out any written policy!

and no-one in the ND-party even knows what the real policy is )

GREEN POLICY # 106

REGULATE MARIJUANA UNDER FEDERAL LEGISLATION AS A PRODUCT SIMILAR TO ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO

As some of you may not know , after my almost 4 years fighting formally with in the ndp ,(and 30 years informally), I mean really fighting,

well,,I quit because they still don't have a cannabis policy

And quite frankly don't seem to want one by their underhanded cowardly responses to 6 Quebec City National ndp Convention resolutions raised to address this issue at the last convention Sept 2006.

Provided by people nation wide that layton now looks like a liar to.

He is.

Trust me though i know,, the ndp leadership is never going to bring it up

Layton himself is calling for ""mandatory minimum sentences"" and refuses to even mention the word , in fact is running in the opposite direction

They are cowards and don't want us cannabis people

Just your vote and money

A vote for the ndp is now a wasted vote and they really don't deserve our continued support

In fact you can improve the ndp by voting GREEN.

Please all Cannabis or Freedom thinking Canadians,,,get involved and help the Greens

They could surprise a lot of people this time around and please do not forget that each party gets a payment from our tax's based on each vote they garner

Do not financially support (though your vote)

a party of hypocrites and cowards

Elizabeth May for Prime-Minister makes more sense in my view.

Green "FOR ALL OF US"

I have no illusion we will win government but even a strong showing will change this country and its issues immediately.

The GREENS are the only Federal Party with a sane policy towards dealing with the gang violence and the homeland security type of law-enforcement practises now being used against our own citizens.

The time has come for fearless leadership to break the redundant patterns of the current leadership of this country

The environment starts at my eyelashes and the lives being hurt or wasted are ruining the environment in which I live.

All the other parties are afraid to see the real answer to end the wasted money lives and the ever increasing crime ,violence and loss of our personal freedoms.

Any questions please let me know

Edited October 18, 2007 by shavluk

[Topaz]

Yeah, right! I hope the Green Party doesn't stand for what you want them to stand for! Tobacco is on its way out and within 10 years, there probably not be any tobacco and people will become more aware of what alcohol can do to a person if you abuse it, so smoking any dope is just dopey and will kill you sooner or later!

[ScottSA]

I see the green party is ramping up it's election strategy a bit early. Oh wow, man, I'm convinced. I'm voting green. How bout you? I hear they'll give me a joint at the voting booth too!

[shavluk]

Yeah, right! I hope the Green Party doesn't stand for what you want them to stand for! Tobacco is on its way out and within 10 years, there probably not be any tobacco and people will become more aware of what alcohol can do to a person if you abuse it, so smoking any dope is just dopey and will kill you sooner or later!

Show me the bodies Mr conservative,yes you do have a policy as well dont you

Jail , Abuse and MORE CRIME and Death

Please show any obituary of some one who died because of cannabis use.

Alcohol is by far safer LEGAL ! yes or no?

Lets see how ignorant you may be.

No I stand by my words and stand by my fellow citizens even against the bigotry and abuse I am already dealing with day to day.

Here is something that if we COULD get our own records would show you how stupid what is happening here is headed for.

Marijuana Arrests For Year 2006 – 829,625 Tops Record High...Nearly 15 Percent Increase Over 2005

September 24, 2007 - Washington, DC, USA

Washington, DC: Police arrested a record 829,625 persons for marijuana violations in 2006, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, released today. This is the largest total number of annual arrests for pot ever recorded by the FBI. Marijuana arrests now comprise nearly 44 percent of all drug arrests in the United States.

"These numbers belie the myth that police do not target and arrest minor marijuana offenders," said NORML Executive Director Allen St. Pierre, who noted that at current rates, a marijuana smoker is arrested every 38 seconds in America. "This effort is a tremendous waste of criminal justice resources that diverts law enforcement personnel away from focusing on serious and violent crime, including the war on terrorism."

Of those charged with marijuana violations, approximately 89 percent some 738,915 Americans were charged with possession only. The remaining 90,710 individuals were charged with "sale/manufacture," a category that includes all cultivation offenses even those where the marijuana was being grown for personal or medical use. In past years, roughly 30 percent of those arrested were age 19 or younger.

"Present policies have done little if anything to decrease marijuana's availability or dissuade youth from trying it," St. Pierre said, noting young people in the U.S. now frequently report that they have easier access to pot than alcohol or tobacco.

“Two other major points standout from today’s record marijuana arrests: Overall, there has been a dramatic 188 percent increase in marijuana arrests in the last 15 years -- yet the public's access to pot remains largely unfettered and the self-reported use of cannabis remains largely unchanged. Second, America’s Midwest is decidedly the hotbed for marijuana-related arrests with 57 percent of all marijuana-related arrests. The region of America with the least amount of marijuana-related arrests is the West with 30 percent. This latter result is arguably a testament to the passage of various state and local decriminalization efforts over the past several years.”

The total number of marijuana arrests in the U.S. for 2006 far exceeded the total number of arrests in the U.S. for all violent crimes combined, including murder, manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault.

Annual marijuana arrests have nearly tripled since the early 1990s.

"Arresting hundreds of thousands of Americans who smoke marijuana responsibly needlessly destroys the lives of otherwise law abiding citizens," St. Pierre said, adding that over 8 million Americans have been arrested on marijuana charges in the past ten years. During this same time, arrests for cocaine and heroin have declined sharply, implying that increased enforcement of marijuana laws is being achieved at the expense of enforcing laws against the possession and trafficking of more dangerous drugs.

St. Pierre concluded: "Enforcing marijuana prohibition costs taxpayers between $10 billion and $12 billion annually and has led to the arrest of nearly 20 million Americans. Nevertheless, some 94 million Americans acknowledge having used marijuana during their lives. It makes no sense to continue to treat nearly half of all Americans as criminals for their use of a substance that poses no greater - and arguably far fewer - health risks than alcohol or tobacco. A better and more sensible solution would be to tax and regulate cannabis in a manner similar to alcohol and tobacco."

YEAR MARIJUANA ARRESTS

2006 829,625

2005 786,545

2004 771,608

2003 755,187

2002 697,082

2001 723,627

2000 734,498

1999 704,812

1998 682,885

1997 695,200

1996 641,642

1995 588,963

1994 499,122

1993 380,689

1992 342,314

1991 287,850

1990 326,850

For more information, please contact Allen St. Pierre, NORML Executive Director, at (202) 483-5500. For a comprehensive breakdown and analysis of US marijuana arrests, please see NORML's report: "Crimes of Indiscretion: Marijuana Arrests in the United States".

Edited September 26, 2007 by shavluk

[geoffrey]

Here is four guys killed by the results of the marijuana industry and drug use:

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2...e-rcmp-grp-.jpg

[old_bold&cold]

Hell if it was legal I would grow it hydroponically, but I am watched too much out where I am to grow it illegally. We get planes and helicopters flying by checking the fields and infared scanning of buildings etc.. In my area there are at least 5-6 large raids of grow-ops every year. So it seems to be a hot spot for this. But if it were legal and was a good paying crop then sure why not grow it

[Higgly]

I see the green party is ramping up it's election strategy a bit early. Oh wow, man, I'm convinced. I'm voting green. How bout you? I hear they'll give me a joint at the voting booth too!

Might be the best thing that ever happened to you. I mean, you in particular, ScottSA.

The tobacco industry has been obfuscating and lying about research into its product for years. The anti-drug creeps have been shining a light on pot for years and have yet to show the same level of damage as tobacco or booze. I would vote Green on that issue, but it is not the most important thing to me. I agree with them on Education, but that is not the most important thing to me.

The most important things to me are public health care, the environment, and responsible fiscal management. I have yet to see a financial scandal from the Ontario Liberals.

John Tory is talking about private health care. I don't care if it works somewhere else. I think we can be the model. As I have been told so many times by the seniors in my family: if you haven't got your health, you've got nothing. The sad tale of health-driven bankruptcies in the US really worry me. Firstly, health care costs were the biggest source of bankruptcy in the US. Then George Bush legislated that nobody can declare bankruptcy as a result of healthcare expenses. Very, very troubling. Life is being sold to the highest bidder.

I like the Greens' stand on the Environment, but they just don't have any sort of track record. I was hoping the new electoral model might help, but Argus has shown that it is replete with 'gotchas'. Tory has absolutely nothing to bring to the table in terms of the enviornment and he is just the kind of guy I would never trust to come up with a solution.

As far as this whole faith-based education thing goes, it is just going farther down the wrong road. I agree with Alan Borovoy and the Civil Liberties Union. It's time to merge the Catholic School system with the public school system. But for me, that is not the biggest issue.

Responsible fiscal management, the environment, and public health care. Two out of three for the Liberals. One out of three for the Conservatives (and that's if I trust John Tory, who has no experience as a political leader and next to no experience as a corporate leader). The NDP is too attached to the idea that the government should interfere in the economy, and sooner or later, that is just not going to fly.

[guyser]

Here is four guys killed by the results of the marijuana industry and drug use:

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2...e-rcmp-grp-.jpg

Geoffrey you of all people I would not expect hyperbole , wrongly attributed of course, about the pot industry.

Those men were killed by a delusional maniac, and having virtually nothing to do with pot. Sad use of that tragedy.

[sharkman]

Uh, no. I'm not sick of the drug war, I'm sick of pot heads whining about getting arrested for breaking the law. Good luck with the election, you're going to need it.

[Drea]

every single person that has ever enjoyed a drink is a goddamn disgusting alcoholic pig and should be taken out and shot. (and pee'd on too)

That's the way I see it.

I wish people would get a clue and wake up to the fact that it's not marijuana that is the dangerous drug, its alcohol.

[kengs333]

every single person that has ever enjoyed a drink is a goddamn disgusting alcoholic pig and should be taken out and shot. (and pee'd on too)

That's the way I see it.

I wish people would get a clue and wake up to the fact that it's not marijuana that is the dangerous drug, its alcohol.

Actually, you have no proof of this; marijuana usage is not as widespread as that as alcohol. We still don't conclusively know what long term effects there can be, and what it will do to the body after multi-generational usage.

[bush_cheney2004]

For more information, please contact Allen St. Pierre, NORML Executive Director, at (202) 483-5500. For a comprehensive breakdown and analysis of US marijuana arrests, please see NORML's report: "Crimes of Indiscretion: Marijuana Arrests in the United States".

Ahem....Canada is not the United States. Seek true cannabis love elsewhere.

[sharkman]

every single person that has ever enjoyed a drink is a goddamn disgusting alcoholic pig and should be taken out and shot. (and pee'd on too)

That's the way I see it.

I wish people would get a clue and wake up to the fact that it's not marijuana that is the dangerous drug, its alcohol.

I sense just a teensy weensy amount of anger coming from this corner of the forum. Hey, you admitted to drinking booze while carrying a child, for which you were soundly criticized. Is that why you're so angry now concerning this subject?

[shavluk]

Here is four guys killed by the results of the marijuana industry and drug use:

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2...e-rcmp-grp-.jpg

hhahhahahhahahhhahahaa thank you Rudy giuliani

Prove it !

You cant and everyone knows it

The facts are out there and its pretty obvious to me and people like me that you are a conservative redneck in your view.

Cannabis had nothing to do with Mayerthorpe and wasn't even discovered until the RCMP illegally entered the rosgo farm

And as all of us enlightened people realize Rosgo certainly wasn't smoking what was growing at his farm ,,,without a doubt !!!

Or the disaster never would have happened.

With the new policies SOON coming from the harpercrits I would imagine there will actually be some cannabis related shootings as they will make cannabis cost more and be more profitable to crime.

Stupid policy wait and see!

Machine gun fights at schools ,,oh yeah we already had that.

80 dead Indo Canadians over drug turf ,oh yeah already have that.

I am glad a guy like you shows his true color and show that you have no problem paying $150,000 a year to jail some one for a victimless crime and yet not the $10,000 for affordable housing or the $20,000 for a decent education.

You are a deep guy ,eh?

No point in responding to extinct DNA here for me as I know I wont get your vote

Neither did the slavery abolitionist's , I and many others are sure , now.

My gains will come from the non voters the down trodden and the disenfranchised

who will rise up and put people like you back in your miserable place.

oh

and thanks for your comments

[jefferiah]

My gains will come from the non voters the down trodden and the disenfranchised

who will rise up and put people like you back in your miserable place.

oh

Yeah, good campaign you are running there. Is this line going to be in your speech? Threatening to put an average guy in his place. Way to win the sane vote! I sure hope the down trodden and disenfranchised have more important issues to think about than whether or not they can toke freely. Actually alot of them probably do. Your gains will come from people who have no priorities.

Edited September 26, 2007 by jefferiah

[shavluk]

Might be the best thing that ever happened to you. I mean, you in particular, ScottSA.

The tobacco industry has been obfuscating and lying about research into its product for years. The anti-drug creeps have been shining a light on pot for years and have yet to show the same level of damage as tobacco or booze. I would vote Green on that issue, but it is not the most important thing to me. I agree with them on Education, but that is not the most important thing to me.

The most important things to me are public health care, the environment, and responsible fiscal management. I have yet to see a financial scandal from the Ontario Liberals.

John Tory is talking about private health care. I don't care if it works somewhere else. I think we can be the model. As I have been told so many times by the seniors in my family: if you haven't got your health, you've got nothing. The sad tale of health-driven bankruptcies in the US really worry me. Firstly, health care costs were the biggest source of bankruptcy in the US. Then George Bush legislated that nobody can declare bankruptcy as a result of healthcare expenses. Very, very troubling. Life is being sold to the highest bidder.

I like the Greens' stand on the Environment, but they just don't have any sort of track record. I was hoping the new electoral model might help, but Argus has shown that it is replete with 'gotchas'. Tory has absolutely nothing to bring to the table in terms of the enviornment and he is just the kind of guy I would never trust to come up with a solution.

As far as this whole faith-based education thing goes, it is just going farther down the wrong road. I agree with Alan Borovoy and the Civil Liberties Union. It's time to merge the Catholic School system with the public school system. But for me, that is not the biggest issue.

Responsible fiscal management, the environment, and public health care. Two out of three for the Liberals. One out of three for the Conservatives (and that's if I trust John Tory, who has no experience as a political leader and next to no experience as a corporate leader). The NDP is too attached to the idea that the government should interfere in the economy, and sooner or later, that is just not going to fly.

You talk about health care.

How do you think I feel?

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 1:52 PM

To Rick Simpson

Subject: my mom and her needless death

I just read Jims incredible storey.

As I have the many others over the years.

http://www.phoenixtears.ca/jcj.html

JIM’S CANCER JOURNEY

(complete page http://www.phoenixtears.ca/ )

You know I am and have been following your work for a long time.

This storey was different for me as it struck closer to home.

I just tried for months with my conservative mother to educate her with and about your work , all , to no avail.

Of course reading Jims storey took me back to her exact circumstances.

I even took her canna butter rice crispy squares and only told her boyfriend about what was in them.

Nada ,zip no way would she even talk about it,,

The boyfriend , well ,,he had caved , obviously.

I tried personally with her as she was fading fast and following very poor advise of a part time medical practitioner, again a waste of time and resulted in an argument.

My mother because of her political beliefs, and "the laws the law" just wouldn't listen , sadly.

The criminality of cannabis ,and the denial of its many , many benefits ,,helped to kill my Mom ,,,,, needlessly !

Strange how the cancer rates go hand in hand with the prohibition of natural remedies.

August 27 2007 - Louise Moody died at age 70.

As I said ,,great job you guys and I thank you.

I will spread this like all the rest.

Any chance of yes ,getting a link to these people personally so that I may really get it out there with confidence and to ,and no disrespect intended but I had to learn early on to always have all of my proofs as I get called on what I say as a Green federal candidate , all the time.

I would like more information anyway re: this case and now I MUST really get this out there just so that every one I do care about actually is fully armed with this knowledge as cancer continues to be an epidemic in this country and we are being lied to and spoon feed our medical choices as they play with our very lives. Their political beliefs aside for a minute.

I want to get involved more with this particular case, and it must be told.

Please send what you can.

Cheers always ,

I pray your court case raises enough awareness to end this ridiculous waste of this knowledge and more the needless deaths.

I am sending it out as well to people who really should at least know about this.

john @ 604 930 5059

juror.ca

[email protected]

some have had to put it right in their browser as it has gremlins trying to stop the hits !!!

This guy is fighting for citizens lives in court right now!

IT IS A SHAME WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS RESEARCH !!

Much more to this for years !!!

Edited September 26, 2007 by shavluk

[shavluk]

Actually, you have no proof of this; marijuana usage is not as widespread as that as alcohol. We still don't conclusively know what long term effects there can be, and what it will do to the body after multi-generational usage.

Yes actually we do as it was always legal until 1923 , in fact George Washington and his pals smoked it every day(as most colonists did) ,in fact most did for thousands of years in India (still do)and in fact it was the law to grow it in the good ol USof A until the racist reasons for the law stopped it.

So much dis information is constantly spewed from the bully crowd.

In BC all GROW OP BUSTER TEAMS are only the senior union members and they all double their incomes as grow ops are done on over time. Like winning the lottery.

Many are fearful their union jobs only will qualify them for McDonald's when I re-legalize cannabis ,,,,,so I understand.

What is being spewed here by these detractors is their usual day to day poison , I am sure as they are in my mind ,extinct DNA and as such just don't know that.

Don't get mad at them. Pity them.

I am sure if I searched here they would also be the ones against gay marriage or women's rights etc etc.

Just take your toys home and sulk. Good boy ,,really (I know you didnt hear that enough)

Sadly its these types who in fact benefit the most when they actually try cannabis.

Or are the way they are because their job would be jeopardized if they tried it and are just whining.

I don't even pay attention to the type as I am Green and I limit my exposure to toxic substances.

But thanks for your comments.

[shavluk]

Ahem....Canada is not the United States. Seek true cannabis love elsewhere.

Maybe some one could translate this for me.

If you are saying it is US results , I know that.

We cant get the numbers here but based on our information and previous data I would say here it would have been 80,000

We also have 800,000 ex-pow from jails in Canada for cannabis.

I will do what I want where I want ,thank you.

But thanks for your comments.

[bush_cheney2004]

Yes actually we do as it was always legal until 1923 , in fact George Washington and his pals smoked it every day(as most colonists did) ,in fact most did for thousands of years in India (still do)and in fact it was the law to grow it in the good ol USof A until the racist reasons for the law stopped it.

More obsession with cannabis USA style? Won't help tokers in Kanuckistan, which banned Mary Jane years before Uncle Sam. Now why would that be? Maybe I'll ask the Queen.

[shavluk]

I sense just a teensy weensy amount of anger coming from this corner of the forum. Hey, you admitted to drinking booze while carrying a child, for which you were soundly criticized. Is that why you're so angry now concerning this subject?

No , I would say its probable just because he is a warm blooded human

and not cold blooded like a shark.

I bet you have sucked back a sharks record of alcohol ,in your time? as it seems to show in your demeanor.

You a cop?

And thanks for your comments.

[shavluk]

Yeah, good campaign you are running there. Is this line going to be in your speech? Threatening to put an average guy in his place. Way to win the sane vote! I sure hope the down trodden and disenfranchised have more important issues to think about than whether or not they can toke freely. Actually alot of them probably do. Your gains will come from people who have no priorities.

No ,, they will come from the smart.

Thanks but I have to be me and I am quite comfortable in my own skin , unlike some others.

Maybe just to bring you up to speed as its been 16 long years for me and maybe yes my bedside manor is a little rusty.

Maybe check the date on one of these others ,how about this one ,,,

http://enmasse.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6965&start=0

There are a few others there as well that explain my stance.

On that one I did explain coming in second for the presidency of the federal ndp last September only as a way of explaining their hypocracy and laytons and his lies as well as stand up with a proper direction to them.

One they have been trying to get the guts to actually have since 1972.

My supporters are very happy my word means something.

I am not trying to be your best friend I am just trying to quadruple the effectiveness of your police over night , remove billions from crime , save you $20,000 when your child does get caught with this harmless substance 4 million Canadians have tried and save over one third of your annual taxes.

What do I know , maybe you aren't worth it.

But then again I used to warn people about a drug called Chrystal meth that these days has its own press.

By the By if you could smoke Ritalin (prescribed by the ton in Canada to children) It would then have be called Chrystal meth.

Almost the same formula sadly.

What do you think these kids will be like grown up?

Hey !

By the way its now 71 dead needless Canadians in Afghanistan as the drug war rages there.

8 people killed for Canada in the first 5 years with no war and 63 in the last 2 with

Sadly they don't tell you that with these new flack jackets soldiers have to wear now ,,,, it gives less dead numbers

Great for the generals and their media

It also means we have close to 700 soldiers missing arms and legs that will never be talked about.

The Americans have 3000 dead in Iraq and yet over 28,000 amputees they don't want anyone to know about.

The most since the civil war (in Vietnam most of these 28000 would have died)

I also explained to Steven Lewis and jack layton how to stop all this needless death the drug war has now brought to Afghanistan.

Read it as Canadians do matter.

And thanks for responding.

[Wilber]

link

[jefferiah]

The Canadian Journal of Psychiatry, Wilbur. Pffft everyone knows you have to go to the pro-cannabis sites to get the real scoop on marijuana. That's where you will find out the truth about how marijuana makes you a better driver and cures diseases miraculously.

[shavluk]

link

Kind of poetic for me as I am from Saskatoon and my framing by police happened there.

also someone just did 62 days in Jail there just for handing someone else their own cannabis cigarette back!!!

I think they run that fantasy story monthly don't they?

Oh lets see do I cut and paste one of the dozen letters to the editor??

The usual response?,hmmmm

This is so old I was in Baghdad when I heard it the first time and you were in dads,,,,,,eh what for,,,

I cant even go be bothered for you. A mind is a terrible thing to waste but so is my time and today I have given all I can.

Thanks but again my rule of avoiding toxic substances keeps coming up.

I will hold my nose.

Most that get this disease have never actually seen cannabis ,,, Sherlocke

And just about all of them have drank alcohol or milk or water

And 100% live in the same chemical filled cesspool we all do.

Human breast milk is now not fit for human consumption ,,,,,,think about that for a minute ,,,please.

Some don't need to do anything and yet the disease still finds them

And if you are now !!!! telling me we actually should jail these people just to save their health ,,,,,,,why hahhahaha

Why ,,,

I will just have to paste a ton of yuks just for you as a special treat for my own passion.

But really common sense is another of my traits so,,,,

thanks for the comments,, maybe another time.

Edited September 26, 2007 by shavluk

[jefferiah]

And if you are now !!!! telling me we actually should jail these people just to save their health ,,,,,,,why hahhahaha

Why ,,,

.

I never said anything about jailing them or that they should be jailed. I don't know if Wilbur said that either. But I would never vote for a party based on this issue alone. If all you seem to be interested in is pots legalization, what are you going to do about the other facets of life that do not include marijuana. They do exist you know.

Edited September 26, 2007 by jefferiah