September 11, 2001 – Thoughts on an Anniversary

[eyeball]

Sure thing, Mr Conspiracy.

I assumed this was just an exercise in what if's not what is, but maybe this thread is a little of both - about revisionism in other words.

Are you suggesting the Bin Ladens in the US following 9/11 were actually expelled because of their ties to Osama Bin-Laden?

[GostHacked]

Sure thing, Mr Conspiracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ujUhNV8NRA

I think this is the right video.

Edited November 21, 2011 by GostHacked

[DogOnPorch]

Hey...I was awake for 9-11 and yes I recall the non-Osama Bin Ladens being rushed out of sight. You'd have prefered they be lynched? I think the Administration feared for their safety.

[eyeball]

Hey...I was awake for 9-11 and yes I recall the non-Osama Bin Ladens being rushed out of sight. You'd have prefered they be lynched? I think the Administration feared for their safety.

Have you ever asked yourself why the hell didn't they fly them to Guantanamo Bay and interrogate them instead?

I can only imagine your own apoplexy if Obama or even worse the Clinton's had been on watch and Bin Laden's relatives were simply allowed to fly home without anything even remotely resembling a concern for the potential information they might have.

[DogOnPorch]

Bush is no pal of mine. Thanks for trying, though.

Edited November 22, 2011 by DogOnPorch

[Guest American Woman]

Probably because you've always got so many other's on the go but in that spirit try following this one.

Imagine the uproar if Bin Laden family members had been allowed to fly out of the country immediately following 9/11 on a Democrat's watch instead of George W. Bush's.

Except they weren't flown out of the country "immediately following 9-11." The FBI conducted an investigation first, interviewed them, and concluded that they were in no way involved and didn't have any knowledge of the attacks; and they didn't fly out until airspace had been reopened.

Compared to the Bin Laden's, Iran's suspects were so run-of-the-mill as to barely rate a mention - which probably explains why they're only surfacing now after all this time.

You're the one who brought Iran up, as if what they did for the U.S. was a big deal.

Edited November 22, 2011 by American Woman

[eyeball]

Except they weren't flown out of the country "immediately following 9-11." The FBI conducted an investigation first, interviewed them, and concluded that they were in no way involved and didn't have any knowledge of the attacks; and they didn't fly out until airspace had been reopened.

Okay (insert a rolleyes here) I guess it was a whole three days or four days afterwards, all the same you think this would still be every bit as acceptable if it happened on a Democrats watch? All I'm saying is the contrast between the way Bin Laden family members were treated so soon after 9/11 compared to how harshly many suspects with far less tenuous ties to Osama Bin Laden or al Queada have been since then is at least a little remarkable and definitely remarkable enough that if Democrats had been in charge at the time, Republicans would be apoplectic. Maybe that just goes without saying.

You're the one who brought Iran up, as if what they did for the U.S. was a big deal.

Actually, GostHacked did.

[bush_cheney2004]

Okay (insert a rolleyes here) I guess it was a whole three days or four days afterwards, all the same you think this would still be every bit as acceptable if it happened on a Democrats watch?

Absolutely...what's the big deal? They weren't related to Maher Arar!

All I'm saying is the contrast between the way Bin Laden family members were treated so soon after 9/11 compared to how harshly many suspects with far less tenuous ties to Osama Bin Laden or al Queada have been since then is at least a little remarkable

Not at all.....since your timing was already wrong as reported by AW, what kind of instant ramp up to Gitmo did you expect?

and definitely remarkable enough that if Democrats had been in charge at the time, Republicans would be apoplectic. Maybe that just goes without saying.

Or it goes in the nonsense bin laden.

[olp1fan]

no one ever brings up the fact that Bush admitted they gave up on trying to find Bin Laden and that he doesn't think much about him, isn't worried (6 months after 9/11)

[bush_cheney2004]

no one ever brings up the fact that Bush admitted they gave up on trying to find Bin Laden and that he doesn't think much about him, isn't worried (6 months after 9/11)

Clearly that was not the case....just ask Bin Laden's wife.

[Jack Weber]

Hey...I was awake for 9-11 and yes I recall the non-Osama Bin Ladens being rushed out of sight. You'd have prefered they be lynched? I think the Administration feared for their safety.

Uh...

I think they feared for the safety of their BUSINESS PARTENERS within entities like the Carlisle (sp) Group...

[olp1fan]

Clearly that was not the case....just ask Bin Laden's wife.

watch the video, I don't believe it took them 10 years to find the man and kill him ... no chance, they knew where he was the whole time

Obama decided to use this to get re elected so he gave the orders

[bush_cheney2004]

watch the video, I don't believe it took them 10 years to find the man and kill him ... no chance, they knew where he was the whole time

Obama decided to use this to get re elected so he gave the orders

You can think whatever you want...there were plenty of other perps sent to "heaven".

[olp1fan]

You can think whatever you want...there were plenty of other perps sent to "heaven".

what do you believe? that it took 10 years to find him or that you knew all along?

[DogOnPorch]

Uh...

I think they feared for the safety of their BUSINESS PARTENERS within entities like the Carlisle (sp) Group...

Sure. I protect my gravy trains as well. As they say, there are no real millionaire Communists.

[Guest American Woman]

Okay (insert a rolleyes here) I guess it was a whole three days or four days afterwards,

Which is quite different from saying it happened "right after," wouldn't you agree? First of all, "right after" insinuates that they were given special privilege to fly during the time when our airspace was closed.

Secondly, "three days or four days afterward," and in some instances more, did give the FBI time to investigate and conduct interviews. You implied that they simply all immediately boarded planes and left the country without so much as an afterthought on the government's part - and that simply did not happen.

all the same you think this would still be every bit as acceptable if it happened on a Democrats watch?

Acceptable to who? I think it would have been acceptable to more than a few Democrats who criticize the Bush administration for it.

In other words, I think it would have been just as acceptable - and unacceptable - as it is now; we'd just have some people from a different political faction accepting it while some people from a different faction would be critical; ie: the reverse of what we are seeing now; and of course there would still be some people who wouldn't see it through partisan eyes.

All I'm saying is the contrast between the way Bin Laden family members were treated so soon after 9/11 compared to how harshly many suspects with far less tenuous ties to Osama Bin Laden or al Queada have been since then is at least a little remarkable and definitely remarkable enough that if Democrats had been in charge at the time, Republicans would be apoplectic. Maybe that just goes without saying.

"Republicans" don't hold the monopoly on "apoplectic." There are some Republicans who will stand behind whatever Republicans do regardless - as they criticize everything Democrats do, just as there are some Democrats who will stand behind whatever Democrats do regardless - as they criticize everything Republicans do. Maybe that just goes without saying.

[jbg]

Obama decided to use this (the Osama killing) to get re elected so he gave the orders

I am no admirer of Obama whatsoever. That being said, I think the holdup was more that Osama had powerful friends for a while. When he was pitiful and marginal they killed him.