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Why not try giving me a serious response and I'll respond in kind?

Okay - let nature take it's course is my new mantra. Let people work it out - respect the rights of the individual - and let all speak and think freely. That's the way it should have been - and that is the way the founding fathers of America orignally thought. Things have changed- democracy now means - who ever has gathered the most material wealth and influence rules...that sounds kind of Kingly to me.

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I agree with this, except for:

I do not see it as being better, even "in theory". A government cannot and should not try to guarantee happiness, even in theory.

Nor should a lover pledge happiness...I guess you should at least give happiness a try..make an effort to make a better world. Perhaps that what they imagined - that the citizens of this new republic should not be barred or blocked from making imporvements.

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To expand on that it gets down to good and evil. A citizen or government does have the right to bring about happiness best it can...and it should be noted that when a citizen or government bring about sadness to a nation..then -they are counter productive and must be removed. Either through armed rebellion - rebellion of the mind - or through the democratric process...if the democratic process is askew - then those who bring about misery though intent or mistake...can continue to make us miserable...which is NOT good...It's evil.

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Oh - so the declaration is a flawed document. You would think that they would have gotten it right and declared people shall be happy under this new independent government.

You are FREE to be as happy or as unhappy as you want.

Choice is yours. In Communist regime you're REQUIRED to be happy - or else.

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You are FREE to be as happy or as unhappy as you want.

Choice is yours. In Communist regime you're REQUIRED to be happy - or else.

Yah - the communists insisted that my fathers family be happy...but they seemed to be unhappy because of the disrespect of individuality and personal believes my family had - so the communists put them on trail - not once but six times - eventually after a fice year period they got a conviction...odd though when I looked it up - My grandfather was convicted offically two days after they shot him.

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Continued: In this liberal democracy that we live in...If you are non-compliant to the social and finacial agenda, that big buisness creates -then enforces through their governmental friends...they make sure that you are unhappy. Cos' here in Canada - unless you keep the rich rich - they get very pissed off...Their so-called social saftey net is by design a torture device...It's slow and incrimental abuse...attempting to force anyone that can breathe - Young and old to maintain the status quo....If you don't keep big brother happy - he ensures that you are miserable and broke...our taxing system is like that...Corporations pay nothing and they expect YOU to support them - if you don't...then you are considered either a threat or an inferiour that needs to be slowly destroyed.

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Don't call me "Ivan" - I spoke Russian when I was a child - I have been in Canada - all my life except for about six months...I was born in England and have no affiliation to Russia what so ever.

Kako tvoya babushka? Mozhe ona govorit po Ruski?

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What makes me think that? How about the bolded changes to your Russian in what I quoted?

The only accurate would be same in Azbuka. My keyboard is not set for it. I'm sure we'll survive.

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The English colonies in America were initially colonized by Puritans who brought their own form of censorship. Their disagreement with the State concerned precisely the religious disputes in Europe at the time.

As to Europe itself, both Holland and Switzerland offered havens of freedom of speech in the middle of the last millennium and Hollan was particularly liberal for Jews. England was the first in country in modern times to elect a Jew to a senior political position.

The US does not have a monopoly on western liberal values.

Communalism seems to be an old tribal system that liberal Jews think is great...what if you don't want to be part of the collective and want to be free? It seems that the weak like to stick together and there is safety in numbers..that's fine but when they make a decision to over whelm the individual who is non-compliant to collectivization then that is a problem. Socialism always turns into a hunting expedition where the mob hunts down the lone wolf.

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Update:

On this past Friday morning, I attended my younger son's high school graduation in Eastchester. The weather forecasts the night before threatened heavy rain, and that would have forced the ceremony into a depressing indoor location. Instead, the overcast began to crumble early that morning. When the ceremony ended, we emerged from the tent (a partial cover insufficient for rain since electricity was involved). The sky was brilliant with a few scudding cumulus clouds. The band was playing "Stars and Stripes Forever" as the recessional.

The people were a diverse mix of religions, colors and nationalities. Overall, this was America to me, as it should be.

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Update:

On this past Friday morning, I attended my younger son's high school graduation in Eastchester. The weather forecasts the night before threatened heavy rain, and that would have forced the ceremony into a depressing indoor location. Instead, the overcast began to crumble early that morning. When the ceremony ended, we emerged from the tent (a partial cover insufficient for rain since electricity was involved). The sky was brilliant with a few scudding cumulus clouds. The band was playing "Stars and Stripes Forever" as the recessional.

The people were a diverse mix of religions, colors and nationalities. Overall, this was America to me, as it should be.

It sounds like quite an event. Congratulations on your son's achievement.

I won't use your post to make some kind of cheap political statement, as Hardner just did.

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It sounds like quite an event. Congratulations on your son's achievement.

I won't use your post to make some kind of cheap political statement, as Hardner just did.

How is it cheap ? I was celebrating America's diversity just a jbg was. I'm sorry if you only have selective types of diversity that you like.

Thank you both. I was celebrating the good feelings, the weather, and the good times had by all.

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