Oleg Bach Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Why not try giving me a serious response and I'll respond in kind? Okay - let nature take it's course is my new mantra. Let people work it out - respect the rights of the individual - and let all speak and think freely. That's the way it should have been - and that is the way the founding fathers of America orignally thought. Things have changed- democracy now means - who ever has gathered the most material wealth and influence rules...that sounds kind of Kingly to me. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I agree with this, except for: I do not see it as being better, even "in theory". A government cannot and should not try to guarantee happiness, even in theory. Nor should a lover pledge happiness...I guess you should at least give happiness a try..make an effort to make a better world. Perhaps that what they imagined - that the citizens of this new republic should not be barred or blocked from making imporvements. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 To expand on that it gets down to good and evil. A citizen or government does have the right to bring about happiness best it can...and it should be noted that when a citizen or government bring about sadness to a nation..then -they are counter productive and must be removed. Either through armed rebellion - rebellion of the mind - or through the democratric process...if the democratic process is askew - then those who bring about misery though intent or mistake...can continue to make us miserable...which is NOT good...It's evil. Quote
Saipan Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 Oh - so the declaration is a flawed document. You would think that they would have gotten it right and declared people shall be happy under this new independent government. You are FREE to be as happy or as unhappy as you want. Choice is yours. In Communist regime you're REQUIRED to be happy - or else. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 You are FREE to be as happy or as unhappy as you want. Choice is yours. In Communist regime you're REQUIRED to be happy - or else. Yah - the communists insisted that my fathers family be happy...but they seemed to be unhappy because of the disrespect of individuality and personal believes my family had - so the communists put them on trail - not once but six times - eventually after a fice year period they got a conviction...odd though when I looked it up - My grandfather was convicted offically two days after they shot him. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 Continued: In this liberal democracy that we live in...If you are non-compliant to the social and finacial agenda, that big buisness creates -then enforces through their governmental friends...they make sure that you are unhappy. Cos' here in Canada - unless you keep the rich rich - they get very pissed off...Their so-called social saftey net is by design a torture device...It's slow and incrimental abuse...attempting to force anyone that can breathe - Young and old to maintain the status quo....If you don't keep big brother happy - he ensures that you are miserable and broke...our taxing system is like that...Corporations pay nothing and they expect YOU to support them - if you don't...then you are considered either a threat or an inferiour that needs to be slowly destroyed. Quote
Saipan Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Ivan, please cork that bottle and go to bed. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Ivan, please cork that bottle and go to bed. Don't call me "Ivan" - I spoke Russian when I was a child - I have been in Canada - all my life except for about six months...I was born in England and have no affiliation to Russia what so ever. Quote
Saipan Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 Don't call me "Ivan" - I spoke Russian when I was a child - I have been in Canada - all my life except for about six months...I was born in England and have no affiliation to Russia what so ever. Kako tvoya babushka? Mozhe ona govorit po Ruski? Quote
Bonam Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 (edited) Kako tvoya babushka? Mozhet ona govorit po Ruski? You need to work on your Russian a bit. Edited April 8, 2011 by Bonam Quote
guyser Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 You need to work on your Russian a bit. ...and English Quote
GostHacked Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 You need to work on your Russian a bit. Google Translator is not 100%. Quote
Saipan Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 You need to work on your Russian a bit. Is that why you had to edit your one liner? What makes you think that anyway? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 Oleg's first post above is the only one on this page that's on topic. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Bonam Posted April 9, 2011 Report Posted April 9, 2011 Is that why you had to edit your one liner? What makes you think that anyway? What makes me think that? How about the bolded changes to your Russian in what I quoted? Quote
Saipan Posted April 9, 2011 Report Posted April 9, 2011 What makes me think that? How about the bolded changes to your Russian in what I quoted? The only accurate would be same in Azbuka. My keyboard is not set for it. I'm sure we'll survive. Quote
kimmy Posted April 16, 2011 Report Posted April 16, 2011 Seeing this thread title on the front page makes me want to shout "This is SPARTA!!!" then kick charter.rights down a bottomless pit. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
kimmy Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 now for the FINALE! There's room for you to join C-R in the bottomless pit, you know. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Oleg Bach Posted May 8, 2011 Report Posted May 8, 2011 The English colonies in America were initially colonized by Puritans who brought their own form of censorship. Their disagreement with the State concerned precisely the religious disputes in Europe at the time. As to Europe itself, both Holland and Switzerland offered havens of freedom of speech in the middle of the last millennium and Hollan was particularly liberal for Jews. England was the first in country in modern times to elect a Jew to a senior political position. The US does not have a monopoly on western liberal values. Communalism seems to be an old tribal system that liberal Jews think is great...what if you don't want to be part of the collective and want to be free? It seems that the weak like to stick together and there is safety in numbers..that's fine but when they make a decision to over whelm the individual who is non-compliant to collectivization then that is a problem. Socialism always turns into a hunting expedition where the mob hunts down the lone wolf. Quote
bloodyminded Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 Socialism always turns into a hunting expedition where the mob hunts down the lone wolf. I think this is Ayn Rand in a nutshell. Pun intended. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
jbg Posted June 28, 2015 Author Report Posted June 28, 2015 Update: On this past Friday morning, I attended my younger son's high school graduation in Eastchester. The weather forecasts the night before threatened heavy rain, and that would have forced the ceremony into a depressing indoor location. Instead, the overcast began to crumble early that morning. When the ceremony ended, we emerged from the tent (a partial cover insufficient for rain since electricity was involved). The sky was brilliant with a few scudding cumulus clouds. The band was playing "Stars and Stripes Forever" as the recessional. The people were a diverse mix of religions, colors and nationalities. Overall, this was America to me, as it should be. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Michael Hardner Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 The people were a diverse mix of religions, colors and nationalities. Overall, this was America to me, as it should be. And now, sexual orientation too. The social experiment has passed into a sustainable model for openness, inclusion and prosperity. Those founding fathers sure were smart. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
sharkman Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) Update: On this past Friday morning, I attended my younger son's high school graduation in Eastchester. The weather forecasts the night before threatened heavy rain, and that would have forced the ceremony into a depressing indoor location. Instead, the overcast began to crumble early that morning. When the ceremony ended, we emerged from the tent (a partial cover insufficient for rain since electricity was involved). The sky was brilliant with a few scudding cumulus clouds. The band was playing "Stars and Stripes Forever" as the recessional. The people were a diverse mix of religions, colors and nationalities. Overall, this was America to me, as it should be. It sounds like quite an event. Congratulations on your son's achievement. I won't use your post to make some kind of cheap political statement, as Hardner just did. Edited June 28, 2015 by sharkman Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 I won't use your post to make some kind of cheap political statement, as Hardner just did. How is it cheap ? I was celebrating America's diversity just a jbg was. I'm sorry if you only have selective types of diversity that you like. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
jbg Posted July 2, 2015 Author Report Posted July 2, 2015 It sounds like quite an event. Congratulations on your son's achievement. I won't use your post to make some kind of cheap political statement, as Hardner just did. How is it cheap ? I was celebrating America's diversity just a jbg was. I'm sorry if you only have selective types of diversity that you like. Thank you both. I was celebrating the good feelings, the weather, and the good times had by all. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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